To think Apple is far superior to android?

[Wineislifealways]

In terms of iPhones are better than android? Is it true that androids are less secure and more likely to have viruses? And that they crash and become unresponsive a lot? I have an iPhone but DH has an android and I can’t even use it, I hate it

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Better supply chain auditing against suppliers using slave or child labour (android prices are too good to be possible without turning a blind eye to both of those)

I stand by it. Yes a few models exceed Apple prices, but the vast majority are under-priced due to dubious supply change management. I’m not back tracking on that or on the fact that when I wrote “android” I was thinking “every brand not Apple” which is incidentally the contest the OP set this thread up in. The thread wasn’t Apple vs Samsung was it? It was

To think Apple is far superior to android? 121
Wineislifealways · Today 21:28
In terms of iPhones are better than android? Is it true that androids are less secure and more likely to have viruses? And that they crash and become unresponsive a lot? I have an iPhone but DH has an android and I can’t even use it, I hate it

The OP is clearly asking which we prefer Apple phones or ANY other brand that uses android. And you weren’t rolling in with your snarky “Do you realise you’re comparing manufacturer to operating system” to the OP were you? No of course not, you’ve just chosen to get snarky with me because you disagree with my opinion. Fine, disagree. But it’s not “bullshit” and I do know what I’m talking about btw, just like everyone else that has interpreted the OP in the exact same way as I have.

Had ten years of iPhones and switched to android a couple of years ago. Much prefer android!

I had an I phone for one contract cycle and that was enough. It definitely was not any better and had more limitations.

Apple for Trendies, Android for techies.

Then what’s the point of the fucking thread then? If Android is just an OS then why the comments about battery life and the rest? Why pull me up on how the OP expressed the comparison which is OBVIOUSLY Apple phones vs any other brand of phone commonly referred to as android phones.

But what that poster was effectively implying was that open source operating systems are in some way ‘unethical’ because any Tom, dick or Harry can produce the hardware for them.

God that’s a stretch. But yes open source operating systems are unethical but not for that reason.

I prefer my Samsung. I won't buy anything apple because they are too expensive and in my opinion 50% of the price is just for the name.
My ds has an iPhone and I always refer to it as fruit because I've been known to call it an ipod and can't be arsed to remember. Phones are 1 item on a long list of things that we disagree on.

I've had both. Am sticking with Android now - my iPhones didn't last and the battery life was awful. I do feel you're mainly paying extra for branding and I agree about not liking the feeling of being tied in to all the apple stuff. I felt liberated when I switched to android!

DH has had his top end Samsung for years and years and it's still going strong. I currently have a very cheap android phone, it works well and the battery can last me 3 days. I can add extra storage, or buy a new battery if I want.

I don't find android phones particularly different to use compared with iPhones. They're all pretty intuitive.

I switched from apple to Samsung 3 yrs ago and have not looked back. Now have the s22 ultra and will keep it for another 3-4 yrs. Android is just easier to use and you are not locked into just apple systems with better storage options. I also enjoyed having a phone that didn't need changing after 2 yrs. My iPhone developed issues with the screen, charging, over heated, slowed down significantly with system upgrades etc etc. Would have to be something really very very special to entice me into buying another apple phone.

I couldn't bring myself to pay that much money for something that looks like it's designed for a 3 year old or idiots to use. So I go for Android.

I've always had android phones. Mine have been secure, have never had a virus, crashed or become unresponsive. I can’t fault them and they’re such good value. You can add memory cards to suit your needs. I believe you are paying for the name with iPhones, my DH has one and I can’t see how it’s worth the extra cost. I prefer the look of my android phone too. I have had iPads and I have had issues with those - slowing down due to updates after a couple of years and crashing every now and again.

This is the most perplexingly stupid statement I have ever heard in my life.

Go on, enlighten us as to why open source operating systems are unethical, oh wise one.

I’ve had samsungs for majority of my teenage years and god they was awful. fine for afew months but got extremely slow, laggy, apps forced closing constantly. finally splurged and got an iphone with zero regrets- wish i got it sooner! it’s very smooth, fab graphics and zero issues with lag or freezes

Er you all realise don't you that Android and Apple IOS are operating systems right, not hardware. If one person's phone complains about storage or has a shit battery compared to another's, that means that person bought a phone with less space than the other, or cheaper hardware spec - nothing to do with the OS or whether it's Android or Apple.

If buy the top Samsungs as I prefer the flexibility of the Android UI. It's a much, much better phone to use that my mum's cheap and cheerful bottom of the range Samsung that she doesn't know how to use properly. Both run the Android OS. My friend who is in his seventies still uses a iPhone 4 and is constantly comparing about lack of space and that he couldn't install the NHS app on it. My other friends have iPhone 12s and have no such issues. All run the Apple iOS.

I also have an S22 Ultra and only got rid of the S20 as I could get an upgrade. It's fab and I don't bother with an iPad or tablet as it's so good. I'm sure an iPhone 13 Pro or whatever the Apple flagship one would be perfectly fine too. I just hate the whole apple ID, I cloud storage stuff, drives me insane on kids devices.

An iPhone will allow a 2 year old to use your phone independently (and it does always seem to be that when someone says their extremely tiny child knows how to get the phone and play a game by themselves, it’s almost always an iPhone). An Android-based phone will allow you, as an adult, to use your phone more like an actual computer (add more memory, change the battery, don’t do things that lead to viruses or suffer the consequences, and learn the very simple APK process to download Google Play apps from anywhere in the world and install them on your phone even if they’re supposed to be “locked” for your region and only available in America or something, but DO NOT use virus-laden sites that offer ready-made APK files).

Neither of those things are inherently good or bad, obviously. Not everyone wants to have to avoid viruses on their phone. Some people want to fight their toddlers for their own phones. Life is a mysterious place.

It’s quite simple. By definition open-source operating systems and software are distributed with a licence that generally allows anyone to use, study, change, or share its source code, without restrictions on how the software is used or by whom.

Which means ZERO limits to include freedom to do evil. It’s been used on US fighter jets to you know, to bomb the fuck out of civilians…does Afghan wedding massacre ring a bell? Another specific case is software engineer Seth Vargo found that Chef was using his open-source code and had a contract with ICE- who was violating the human rights of Mexican migrants at the US border. And he could do nothing to stop his code from being used to violate human rights.

It also means Copycat Bob can take Stan’s 10,000hrs of open source work, do a few tweaks over a weekend and then commercialise it and sell it. Profiting off Stan’s work. A 2020 report by Synopsys that reviewed more than 1,000 copywrite applications for software found that 99 per cent contained open-source components. How is such legalised pirating ethical?

There’s also been issues with open source algorithms marketed on social media to be top quality and for example, embedded in job application screening tools by companies….but then later discovered they’re deliberately written to be biased against minority/female/older/etc applicants. So open source has no checks to ensure it is even written in an ethical way in the first place. You have no guarantee as to the intentions of the software engineer writing the code.

Children have ipads for school but the rest of the household is Android, so I've become good at making both systems work. I still prefer Android except for a few apps that aren't available on the latter.

I always compare Apple to the USSR - their's is the only way (operating system) & they control how you access different file types & only their Apple apps work seamlessly on Apple devices. Meanwhile Android is the USA - bit more freedom & happy to work on Apple devices as then you might use their apps somewhere else. Examples - the kids use ipads (as the school can control the security better) but they use Google Classroom & Google "office" apps because their work can be accessed by their teachers (& parents) on any device - Apple, Windows pc or an Android. I personally find Apple's desire to control what file types I can download from cloud apps very frustrating - I can't just download any file from Dropbox / Google Drive / Box etc to their ipads - I can upload so I know it's Apple's restricting usage, rather than the cloud providers.

I will say that until about a year ago Apple's parental controls were loads better that Android's Family Link but they've caught up recently.

I'm a big fan of my Fairphone 4, which has a replaceable battery (like in the old days) and is designed to last 5 years & allow you to replace parts yourself. Rest of the family have Nokia smartphones - both brands have barely any bloatware (unlike the otherwise good Samsung) & give you good cameras / SD-card storage for video, music & photos for the money.

All of this functionality has been available for android users for years, and more so I'm not sure why you're lauding them as some sort of Apple exclusive.

Wireless headphones - I have 3 different sets (one for the gym, one that lives in my handbag and one for home) none of which cost more than about £25 and all of which connect to my phone via Bluetooth as soon as I turn them on.

New phone - I always buy Samsungs so all I have to do is log into my Google account (which takes seconds), download the SmartSwitch app, put the phones together and hey presto it's done.

Cross platforming - again something available for years on Android phones, just log into your Google account and everything is saved there - payment cards in the wallet (which also automatically autopopulate whenever I buy things online and verification is done via biometrics on the fingerprint pad); passwords saved and suggested in my account; whenever a website/company sends a "verification code" via text my phone will automatically copy the code and paste it into the Web page just by swiping the text notification; Google home set up - I can control every light, speaker, and almost every plug in the house via my phone/smartwatch because I use various brands of smart bulbs/speakers/plugs that can all be controlled via Google assistant in one easy app, it allows me to set up rooms, group certain devices together (eg I say "Turn off living room" to the Google speaker or click the living room icon in the app and every smart item will be turned off in one go), set up routines, broadcast messages to other rooms etc

I currently have an iPhone, because I was gifted it after breaking my android.

Been on it for around 10 months so I’ve had time to get used to it.

Will definitely be switching back to Android. I can’t see any advantages to the iPhone, but some apps are a lot more expensive, and others I used to run are blocked on Apple.

Not that the iPhone is a bad piece of kit, but it is more expensive and, on the margins, less good.

Team apple till I die!!!

I've had iPhones since the iPhone 4, had an iPad and before that I'd had multiple different iPods. I switched to a Samsung phone a couple of months ago mostly due to cost.

IMO Apple is more attractive - the physical phone, the system etc it's all so simple and sleek and I do find android phones lack that and can sometimes seem almost clunky lookswise and a bit complicated to use? But I might just think this because Apple has always been marketed as the premium, cool, fashionable choice.

However, over the years I have become increasingly pissed off with how Apple so blatantly make users lives more difficult so they can make extra cash ie when they took away the standard headphone port (I know most other phones have now followed this but years ago it was so annoying) and they really limit what you can do on your devices so you have to use specific programmes etc. You have a lot more freedom with android phones and tablets.

Like a few PP I also found the iPhone crashed quite a lot. Nothing major but almost daily with the last few models I had I would be using an app and the phone would freeze and the app would shut down. It would only be for seconds and I could reopen it straight away but it was annoying if, for example, I was in the middle of reading a long thread on mumsnet and was kicked out before I could bookmark the post I was reading.

I got a Samsung tablet last year and I much prefer that to my old ipad. The freedom that comes with using android makes a big difference when using a tablet as I use that for activities I would traditionally do on a computer. I like not having the restrictions that come with apple products. That's not as big a pro for me in regards to a phone but now I'm used to the set up and the different commands etc I'm enjoying my new Samsung phone and other than aesthetically I don't miss my iPhone.

Just now I think regardless of circumstances I would continue to buy android tablets but would probably go back to an iPhone if I ever have more disposable income. However, its early days so my thoughts might change on that the more I use my new Samsung phone.

I think android products would probably be more attractive to people who are quite techy.

This bootlicker attitude is why I hate Apple products. It's gross and almost cult like... No, thanks. 🤢🤢🤢

Who actually gives a flying fuck? Its like being in a room of teenage boys debating
Xbox vs PlayStation. Both perfectly adequate platforms. People have preferences. No biggie.

Confirmation bias is a thing. The whole Apple vs Android argument is a strange hill to die on imo! Saying that, I'd just opt for the cheapest option that gets the job done generally.

IOS is obviously better. There’s no comparison. MacBooks are better than laptops too. My MacBook Air is now almost 9 years old and works like it did when it came out of the box. Some handsets will
be better quality than Apple handsets but I will take iOS over Android any day of the week.

A top of the line android is far superior to an iPhone.