To wonder why men hate women so much?

[YouAreNotBatman]

Violence againt women, sexual harrasment.

Controlling women bodies.

Women’s sexuality: frigid prude if you don’t want sex, slut if you.

Porn, sex ”work”.

All the MRA’s, mgtow, incels etc.

Even historically speaking they have no reason to be angry at women, women never had any power, mostly tried to accommodate to men’s demand/ wants, I think it still goes on.

Many women still tip toe the line to placate men.

What reason do they have to be so angry at women?

Shall we stay on the subject of Law, although not a very good example for you to have used:

The law recognises, promotes and enacts equality, so why on earth would the escalation of female lawyers be detrimental in this field? That would result in absurdity and I can assure you absurdity is discussed a lot in legal principles.

I know MN is against troll hunting, but come on 🙄

surely you realise the inherent danger of law becoming a female profession and men not feeling that the law is fair to them?

All through the nefarious pathway of ... women being lawyers. The horror!

The last thing we need is any unfairness going on in law.
Come back to us when women have singlehandedly prevented men from owning property or opening bank accounts @Suetodo2.
Presuming, of course, that the coming Armageddon doesn't prevent you from communicating your bon mots.

For this to be an equivalent conversation you would need to show that there was an overwhelming difference in "meanness" between women and men (so it's specifically a female characteristic and not a human characteristic)

You'd also need to show that a significant number of people were affected by womens meanness, so that the women were having a detrimental affect on society.

You'd also need to show that womens meanness was tolerated or even actively protected in laws and social structures.

All of that can be demonstrated for mens violence to women.

99% of violence offences are committed by men - violence is a man thing

1 in 5 women have been raped or sexually assaulted by a man. 3 women a week are killed by a man. Women are scared to walk aline in isolated areas or late at night because of the threat of male violence. Male violence is detrimentally affecting womens participation in society.

Rape is effectively decriminalised in the UK. In many parts of the world men can beat their partner with impunity. Abusive men can sue their victims for defamation. Men continue to be in charge of most of the worlds resources and wealth. Societal structures tolerate male violence.

Now explain how female meanness matches that.
I think humans are mean, both women and men.
But men are violent.

What about the inherent danger of certain professions being male dominated?
Why is is only an issue if a profession becomes female dominated?

That's because you are so fearful of the world you live in that you hide behind your husband & assume his misogynistic viewpoint as some kind of camoflage. Many women do this - sucking up to the patriarchy, or individual men they perceive as powerful & knowledgeable, as a means of self-protection.

Wotcher @AdamRyan - good to see you alive & kicking, & great post btw.

What does that have to do with this thread?
I was just pointing out an MRA trope to alert you that you might not be getting unbiased facts from whatever you are reading

@Idontwanna

No I wouldn’t but I think most changes over the last 30 or so years are unnecessary and are part of the reason society is so shitty now.

And it could “kick off” as you say. I don’t see why you don’t think things can go against what you want. If men really want them to they would. I mean what could anyone do?

Because we’ve lived in a world we’re things have progressed according to womens movements wants so far that doesn’t mean it will just go on and on no matter what. I’m guessing men didn’t feel they were losing enough or still felt that society had enough to offer them that those changes were acceptable (if begrudgingly) to them. All I’m saying is we need to be careful that that line doesn’t get crossed and it’s certainly possible it could. Why do you think dictatorships or revolutions happen? It’s because people don’t feel their society offers them a future they want. Why is the idea it could happen laughable? It’s been the reality of the world. It’s certainly possibly women could also tip over this line without knowing it the more power they get, just as aristocracies have or other groups.

What, you mean like how the law - made by men - used to actively discriminate against women with things like marital rape being legal? Or is that OK in your sexist fantasy land?

We obviously need Mr Sue himself for that, @FinneusMum.

You can't expect a woman to articulate her own argument.
And if she did, the men might feel she was stealing their creative control ... whatever that is, as it's yet another unexplained claim Sue likes to make ...

😂

Thank you! X

Equality for the sexes = Dear I call it restrictive and unnatural authoritarianism.

That's actually slightly sinister

The likes of the great Rachel Flint, would be rolling in their graves. Unreal.

@brookstar

I think there are professions like medicine where there is a danger in that. But in regards to the law it’s not just “a profession” it’s the basis for societal cohesion. Obviously divorcing the group of people who are both needed to enforce the law and best placed to resist it from what they see as adequate control over it is inherently dangerous. Surely you accept that?

First year law student, Sue?

@Mississipi71

Because law becoming female dominated would change it more according to what worked for them. Obviously it’s dangerous for society if men feel that the law and legal system can’t represent or is unfriendly to them or biased against them.

I think there are professions like medicine where there is a danger in that
A danger of what? Becoming female dominated?

But in regards to the law it’s not just “a profession” it’s the basis for societal cohesion. Obviously divorcing the group of people who are both needed to enforce the law and best placed to resist it from what they see as adequate control over it is inherently dangerous. Surely you accept that?

You're not making much sense if I'm honest. I've read this a number of times and I'm still not sure what you're suggesting. Are you saying that if women make the laws and then expect men to enforce these laws, then that will cause issues?

What do you mean by 'adequate control'? Who is controlling what? and why?

@Suetodo2

Obviously it’s dangerous for society if men feel that the law and legal system can’t represent or is unfriendly to them or biased against them.

Obviously. But it wasn't "dangerous for society" if women felt that the law and legal system couldn't represent or was biased against them? Which in fact was the case throughout most of human history.

BTW where are these hoards of highly paid female corporate lawyers/barristers etc. Because the parts of the legal system I come into contact with are most definitely still male dominated....

Oh my! Cutie! Look at the puppy rolls!🥺

Don't choose Employment law to specialise in...for the sake of all women.

Ignore that