To wonder why men hate women so much?

[YouAreNotBatman]

Violence againt women, sexual harrasment.

Controlling women bodies.

Women’s sexuality: frigid prude if you don’t want sex, slut if you.

Porn, sex ”work”.

All the MRA’s, mgtow, incels etc.

Even historically speaking they have no reason to be angry at women, women never had any power, mostly tried to accommodate to men’s demand/ wants, I think it still goes on.

Many women still tip toe the line to placate men.

What reason do they have to be so angry at women?

The biggest indicator for chaotic lifestyles is poverty.

Not working increases dramatically the chance of being in poverty.

He's not suitable for mainstream because they are huge.

He's not suitable for SEMH schools because they are for aggressive kids whose needs were not met who have been multiply excluded.

He's not suitable for schools with kids with low cognitive ability because he has high cognitive ability.

There are very, very few schools for bright, anxious, gentle autistic children in the country. It's a known problem, in fact. Most are being home educated as a direct result.

The school we are hoping to send him to, who only take kids such as him, recently sent a boy to Oxford to read maths. They have 140 inquiries a year for 14 places. They screen intensively to ensure the child is gentle and has no challenging behavioural history, as peers are all going to be anxious. Autistic people usually are.

His maths and science tutors agree he needs to work in academia, or at GCHQ (which has been described, by the way, as 'a workshop for high functioning autistic men'). They know his ability in this regard better than I do, as maths isn't my forte. But it is his.

Again: why are you so sure you know better than others about their lives?

@DandyLandy Yes, you are being really offensive to disabled people, and showing yourself to be very unpleasant. You could google how many highly successful people never finished school. But you probably won't. Gifted children are not well served by the school system but they can achieve brilliant things with the right support. You could watch Jacob Barnett 'forget what you know' on Youtube. He's a gifted kid writing his PhD in Maths, but guess what? His parents were told he would never talk and never tie his own shoelaces. Lucky people didn't write him off or force him into school the way you would like to do.

It's the truth

If the truth is upsetting look inwardly

This poster is claiming that caring for her disabled child because he can't cope in any form of education is a benefit to society

That's simply not true

That's chicken and egg, though.

I used to do casework with chaotic individuals, and most couldn't work because they were chaotic (I strongly suspect most had undiagnosed ADHD, to be honest). Chaotic upbringings in turn lead to chaotic lives, and lack of employment opportunity.

I'm not denying for a second that poverty is corrosive and harmful to kids. But I don't think it's the case that it causes chaos, in itself. I think it causes stress and anxiety and probably short tempered parents. No parents can be at their best if worried beyond endurance by how to put food on the table, or pay to keep the lights and heating on - let alone if they've had to skip meals. I also think that kids have an awareness of other families and children having much more than they do. And that is humiliating and shaming.

There is nothing more stigmatised in our society than poverty, really. It's the most acceptable form of prejudice. But I don't think it's necessarily accurate to say that chaos follows poverty - I think it's the opposite. Poverty can take a lot of forms, and women especially are often one relationship breakdown away from it.

@perfectstorm

How many people do you think work at GCHQ?

You're options are pretty stupid and rude, maybe keep them to yourself? Why anyone thinks it's ok to call somebody's child/family a drain to society is beyond me.

It's absolutely not the truth.

The truth is that you have made a series of statements I have disproven. You have been comprehensively proven wrong. So you are falling back on spite.

You know you are better than this, surely? So why not try to be.

@DandyLandy

@perfectstorm

women especially are often one relationship breakdown away from it.

Well, yes.

All the more reason to work and have your own income.

I also didn't say poverty always causes chaotic lifestyles.

I didn't realise I had to mention it was research aboutSAHMs since that's what we were talking about. I can repost with those words included or provide links if necessary or you doubt me.

Childcare benefits children that don't have their needs met at home for various reasons. It's an early intervention tactic, so you're not comparing like for like.

@idontwanna

I've seen the research.

It mentions an involved parent at home.

Not a mum.

I've asked (repeatedly) how a stay at home mum benefits society

I've yet to get an answer

Because, despite being bigger and stronger than us, we have the power. They hate the fact that we can make them do anything just by being sexual. They hate the way their hormones (and thus women) can control what they do

You'll never get an answer

As there isn't one that's not based in nonsense

Is this where you try a gotcha, on the grounds that you googled, and almost six thousand people work there?

I know six of them, two of whom are also autistic. And are very encouraging about it as a suitable workplace. They have all manner of adjusted arrangements for their autistic staff. The civil service generally are great at making adjustments for neurodiversity.

It's not like a comprehensive where all the kids mill around the halls every time a bell goes, and they don't shove 30-40 in a room for a lesson every 40 minutes, no. And the adults don't tend to scream, shout, shove or bully in the way that is the norm in mainstream schools, because most adults are a little less overtly interpersonally aggressive than adolescents. Most.

If you genuinely believe you're right, and I'm this mother living in denial to be able to bear the horror of a child who can't contend with any future - what does that make you, to try to force me to accept your version, and from no motive but spite?

Ah fair enough. I get it now. Yes I would argue(just like you)that it doesn't have to be the mum, and that it's a parent at home that's important. However, given how society is in the various countries where the studies were made,that SAHP was primarily a woman. That of course doesn't mean it HAS to be the woman.

Hope this makes sense, I have a feeling I got a bit rambly.

@perfectstorm

You haven't disproven anything

If your son can't cope in any educational setting he is a drain to society

The government have to pay you to look after him instead of lumping him in with the general costs of schooling.

You're deluding yourself to think this child who cannot cope in ANY childcare or school setting will be a useful member of society in the future

It doesn't need to be a mother, no. But it almost always is.

The jury's out on whether that's solely societal expectation or not.

Sweden makes parental leave compulsorily split, so if fathers don't take it, neither parent does. Almost all fathers do, so the social expectations shift and it's the norm.

I think that would be an approach worth trying here.

@perfectstorm

Surely a school would be able to make the same adjustments

Your child isn't just autistic

He is so severely impacted by his autism he can't cope in any educational setting

Do your autistic friends at GCHQ have the same background?

At this point it's just sad the lengths you're going to, to lie to yourself

@perfectstorm I don't know if there is any point responding to Dandylandy. Anyone who can be so vile about disabled people and their carers clearly has deep seated issues.

I know you're wrong here, but it doesn't actually matter, does it? You have no impact on my life.

The reality is that my son is incapable of conducting himself as you have, here. And to me, that matters a great deal.

There are numerous ways in which people's choices can be detrimental to society, not least how we conduct ourselves to others. Just a thought.

Hardly vile

This person claimed she was benefitting society

I'm merely countering that view

You have repeatedly stated/predicted her so will be of no use/value to society whatsoever in the future. That is both a terrible and ignorant thing to say.

@DandyLandy

You dont uave yo be quite so personally offensive though.

I agree there are issues there that are distinctly unflattering, but I prefer to hope that the OP is having a rage surge, rather than expressing genuinely held beliefs. Anxiety is often underlying that sort of reaction, in some of the young people I encounter.

I don't know. The internet isn't great for these things, is it. People say things that you wouldn't imagine they'd ever want associated with their actual names.