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My aunt is laughing that her dd is engaged to a married man...

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BarbaraPickle · 06/08/2022 12:13

I am so Shock When she told me, it was with a giggle & comedy 'oops'. I wanted to stand up to her and say behind your dd's engagement is a woman beside herself with distress (the man has two dc, 5 & 4). The reason my aunt found it funny was because she herself pinched another woman's dh. She said 'apple doesn't fall far from the tree' & giggled like it was 'naughty'. She justified her own behaviour because my aunt & uncle had a very long & happy marriage until he died. The rest of the family is falling in line behind the new couple. I just feel ick about the whole thing. The divorce is barely underway & they've already chosen a honeymoon in the Seychelles.🙁

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ClareBlue · 07/08/2022 01:30

ReneBumsWombats · 06/08/2022 22:25

But you can put alot of effort into making cheating a very attractive option for them

Indeed you can. So what? If he keeps his commitment it won't mean a sodding thing.
You choose to make a commitment. The world isn't obliged to remove all temptations for you. Stop blaming women for shit men.

And plenty of women cheat or make poor relationship decisions when they are fed up with domestic drudge or being taken for granted or vulnerable and someone fills a gap when they see a vulnerability. Women also do it with men when they see opportunities and it is not just about how men behave. Its different if you've be lied to or mislead but to actively create or accept emotional and then physical intamacy with a married person, whether you are a women or a man and whether you are the married person or not, can be judged. Of course you can say so what, everyone to their own, or you can say it is a terrible think to do.
But it's valid to have an opinion on people who enable affairs as well as the person having the affair.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 06:16

ClareBlue · 07/08/2022 01:30

And plenty of women cheat or make poor relationship decisions when they are fed up with domestic drudge or being taken for granted or vulnerable and someone fills a gap when they see a vulnerability. Women also do it with men when they see opportunities and it is not just about how men behave. Its different if you've be lied to or mislead but to actively create or accept emotional and then physical intamacy with a married person, whether you are a women or a man and whether you are the married person or not, can be judged. Of course you can say so what, everyone to their own, or you can say it is a terrible think to do.
But it's valid to have an opinion on people who enable affairs as well as the person having the affair.

  1. Nobody said married women don't have affairs.

  2. Nobody said people are not allowed to express their opinions, even ones that are made up of nothing but irrelevant guff like this one.

Your commitments are your own responsibility. It's actually quite...astonishing to make a private commitment with one other person and then tell everyone else in the world that they're responsible for it. If you can trust him, what else do you need to worry about? If you can't, why do you want him?

Scurryfunge12 · 07/08/2022 06:23

Your aunt did not pinch another woman’s husband, unless of course she held a gun to his head and forced him to marry her instead, he went with her very willingly.

I’m not saying it’s right but it was down to them both, more so the one that is already married, not just her.

Why does the woman always get the blame when it takes 2 to tango?

orbitalcrisis · 07/08/2022 06:39

My ex got engaged before we were divorced, I wasn't in any way distressed, I thought it was funny. Especially when I heard he thought the decree nisi was our divorce finalised, I could have been the person who knows of any just cause or lawful impediment!

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 06:44

orbitalcrisis · 07/08/2022 06:39

My ex got engaged before we were divorced, I wasn't in any way distressed, I thought it was funny. Especially when I heard he thought the decree nisi was our divorce finalised, I could have been the person who knows of any just cause or lawful impediment!

I'd have been tempted to crash the wedding for that reason. Not out of spite or anything, just because it would have been legendary.

AprilRae91 · 07/08/2022 10:43

How vile. Women who can’t find their own man so pursue someone else’s are immoral and plain sad.

diddl · 07/08/2022 11:19

AprilRae91 · 07/08/2022 10:43

How vile. Women who can’t find their own man so pursue someone else’s are immoral and plain sad.

Well if men weren't willing to cheat they'd be on a hiding to nothing!

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 12:40

AprilRae91 · 07/08/2022 10:43

How vile. Women who can’t find their own man so pursue someone else’s are immoral and plain sad.

It's a shame that men who made personal commitments have no way of thwarting their evil schemes.

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 12:44

ReneBumsWombats · 06/08/2022 15:50

I have zero time, tolerance or patience for men who cheat on their wives

Then please remember that, without needing to be pulled up on it, next time you're fantasising about how fabulous it would be for them to go on having more cheating sex. Thank you.

You make no sense.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 12:46

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 12:44

You make no sense.

Read slower.

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 12:48

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 12:46

Read slower.

That makes even less sense.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:06

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 12:48

That makes even less sense.

Your posts are right there for anyone to see and you wrote them, so I really don't know know why their content confuses you so much.Like a ton of other posters on here and any thread about a MM and an OW, you started gleefully fantasising about what you saw as the just outcome: OW left heartbroken and MM having even more cheating sex. "Someday the shoe may be ( will!) on the other foot regarding your cousin; then you can sit back and laugh."You had to be pressed before stating that the MM deserves something bad too.So if you do indeed have no time for cheating men, as you then claimed, think about that before concocting justice fantasies about them. Because right now, if the sexism isn't pointed out to you, you'll just have them having more sex while only the women are punished.And also stop feigning confusion try to distract people from the sexism of your original comment. It's so transparent.

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 13:07

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:06

Your posts are right there for anyone to see and you wrote them, so I really don't know know why their content confuses you so much.Like a ton of other posters on here and any thread about a MM and an OW, you started gleefully fantasising about what you saw as the just outcome: OW left heartbroken and MM having even more cheating sex. "Someday the shoe may be ( will!) on the other foot regarding your cousin; then you can sit back and laugh."You had to be pressed before stating that the MM deserves something bad too.So if you do indeed have no time for cheating men, as you then claimed, think about that before concocting justice fantasies about them. Because right now, if the sexism isn't pointed out to you, you'll just have them having more sex while only the women are punished.And also stop feigning confusion try to distract people from the sexism of your original comment. It's so transparent.

Are you intoxicated?

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:08

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 12:48

That makes even less sense.

I don't know why the paragraphs didn't work. Here it is again, easier to read.

Your posts are right there for anyone to see and you wrote them, so I really don't know know why their content confuses you so much.

Like a ton of other posters on here and any thread about a MM and an OW, you started gleefully fantasising about what you saw as the just outcome: OW left heartbroken and MM having even more cheating sex. "Someday the shoe may be ( will!) on the other foot regarding your cousin; then you can sit back and laugh."

You had to be pressed before stating that the MM deserves something bad too.

So if you do indeed have no time for cheating men, as you then claimed, think about that before concocting justice fantasies about them. Because right now, if the sexism isn't pointed out to you, you'll just have them having more sex while only the women are punished.

And also stop creating ridiculous derails like this one to try to distract people from the sexism of your original comment.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:10

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 13:07

Are you intoxicated?

Is that all you've got?

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Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 13:12

FFS

ARE!!!!!

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:23

Yes, it is all you've got. Surprise.

I don't care about pathetic insults on the internet. I do care about your sexism and sexual double standards, which to be fair are echoed by many other posters and our society in general.

Obviously you're annoyed by it too, hence the weapon level projection we're seeing right now.
But actually, I'm taking it as a good sign. I think that next time you're deciding what cheating MM deserve, you will indeed think twice. Even if you do have to feign confusion and hurl a couple of crap insults before you work out that you're actually annoyed with yourself.

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 13:53

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 13:23

Yes, it is all you've got. Surprise.

I don't care about pathetic insults on the internet. I do care about your sexism and sexual double standards, which to be fair are echoed by many other posters and our society in general.

Obviously you're annoyed by it too, hence the weapon level projection we're seeing right now.
But actually, I'm taking it as a good sign. I think that next time you're deciding what cheating MM deserve, you will indeed think twice. Even if you do have to feign confusion and hurl a couple of crap insults before you work out that you're actually annoyed with yourself.

I like to have the last word.

So hear me now; I am unwatching this thread so bitch all you want 🙄

I won't see it.

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/08/2022 14:19

There is 100% a double standard when it comes to cheating - the OW gets 100x more vitriol than the actually married man who, poor lamb, probably just had a wife who didn’t understand him anymore and all the other cliches. People say they are disgusted with the men too but their very first comment re the cheating is ALWAYS aimed at their disgust of the OW. That’s very telling IMO

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 15:30

Dalekjastninerels · 07/08/2022 13:53

I like to have the last word.

So hear me now; I am unwatching this thread so bitch all you want 🙄

I won't see it.

Yes, like your claim that you were going to ignore me in the posts that have since been deleted for being abusive. And you think the typos were what made them embarrassing.

But it doesn't matter. It's not about me or your rage or your ego. It's about blatant sexism and misogyny, which people like you have laid bare on this thread, post after post after post.

But I do believe that at least some people are going to be rethinking their views now - some of them are intelligent enough. That's worth a couple of pathetic Internet insults to me.

ReneBumsWombats · 07/08/2022 15:36

LydiaBennetsUglyBonnet · 07/08/2022 14:19

There is 100% a double standard when it comes to cheating - the OW gets 100x more vitriol than the actually married man who, poor lamb, probably just had a wife who didn’t understand him anymore and all the other cliches. People say they are disgusted with the men too but their very first comment re the cheating is ALWAYS aimed at their disgust of the OW. That’s very telling IMO

Once that's been called out, they then begin with one line about the MM being responsible and then it's four or five paragraphs about how disgusting, slutty, evil and stupid the OW is.

I feel sorry for all these women whose husbands are such sexually incontinent dogs that they have a better chance of securing his fidelity by attempting to scare all the women in the world than by just trusting him to keep his promise. What a way to live.

Minxmumma · 07/08/2022 18:09

As a person who's ex made a habit of cheating and the other ladies thought nothing of it, it was always hurtful. It's the school playground attitude and lack of honesty that is upsetting.

Due to his behaviour he has supervised contact with our daughter. He wanted all the contact under the sun and to play happy families so our daughter thought the world of him but would leg it to his crumpet as soon as his daughter actually needed him or life got a bit difficult.

It sucks. Your Aunt needs to realise that there is nothing big or clever about dating a married man. And both parties are at fault.

FoodologistGirl · 07/08/2022 18:16

When a man marries his mistress, a position becomes available 🤔

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