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To ask if this is a dealbreaker

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TeaFiend100 · 04/08/2022 19:43

Woke up this morning to text from boyfriend of 6 months saying I'd upset him with a (goodnatured) little ribbing last night about him spelling something wrong. Said he felt patronised, and that he's 'good at spelling' so it especially annoyed him. I tried to call him and he didn't answer, sent a text saying sorry, acknowledging he had the right to feel that way and saying I wouldn't have ribbed him if his spelling was actually ever an issue. I said I loved and respected him, and wanted to chat through in person. Tried calling again, no answer.

He then sends me a long text saying he's finding the way I talk about money a lot 'unattractive', that he feels I've 'lost sense of reality' because I earn more than the general population does (I'm London based though) and I'm still worried about money (I'd been talking about budgeting the night before as we were going to move in together in September, and I'm generally finding money hard at the mo as have taken a 50% paycut for a job with better longterm prospects than my last), and that I must think he 'shouldn't bother getting out of bed each morning' because of his wage (I earn double the amount he does). He also called me a 'plastic liberal'.

I felt really attacked, and disliked, and I said that over text, and that he should think about whether or not he actually does want to move in with me or not, or even be together, as it doesn't feel like it. He has expressed being insecure about earning less than me a few times, and money DOES come up a lot in our relationship (just as much led by him as it's this weird elephant in the room - it's not come up for me in other relationships so it's not just me) and I have done SO much to reassure him I don't care he earns less, there's different ways of bringing value to a relationship etc. I have said in the future I would see our money as OUR money, not mine vs his, etc to make him feel better and like it's on the same team.

He also can be bitter about his place in life, lack of career (he works quite a menial job in his late 30s), blaming his parents or having a go at 'people with deskjobs' (I have a deskjob!). Again I've been nothing but supportive, telling him I'm proud of him and would support him to retrain in the future if we wants as that's what couples do - they're a team.

Anyway he called, apologised, and we talked for a bit and he agreed he shouldn't have texted that and should have instead thought about what he needed from me (ie talk less about money) and then to me calmly to discuss it. I said it felt like sometimes he was bitter and it was affecting his behaviour, and he said 'oh women, they always like to call men bitter. Fuck off' and put the phone down.

He then instantly called back and apologised. I was very upset. I was honest with him that I felt I needed to walk on eggshells around him in the sense of it's really obvious he is very insecure about his status, and that I didn't like that he criticised people, bringing them down to make himself better, and had now done it to me. I said he hardly ever actually builds me up, or says he's proud of me (and I've worked HARD to have a house on my own in London, I grew up on a council estate, parents have no money and I've put myself through one of the best unis in the country etc all without any financial or other kind of support (I come from a very dysfunctional family). He knows this yet he seems to put me in the same box as all of the 'middle class' entitled people he criticises alot). That I feel I need to play down and pander to him.

He said he was glad I had said that, that he hadn't realised, and that he can see my point. He said he had been a dick, and that he was really sorry. That he had been feeling awful this morning and shouldn't have taken it out on me. He admitted he thinks he's pushing me away because he doesnt think he deserves me, that his friends say things like 'how did you manage that?' when he tells them about me / my achievements, but that he hadn't realised he never tells me how lucky he feels (I sometimes have to ask him for reassurance or praise). I asked him if he wants to be with me, and he said yes, and that he loves me, and that he 'just wants me to be happy' (I think this was code for 'I worry I won't make you happy and maybe breaking up now will mean I won't disappoint you further').

I said I needed some time, and he said he understood. He hasn't been in touch in since we chatted at 1pm, and I wish he had at least texted to say he was really sorry. I imagine he feels ashamed.

The thing is, I'm about to be 38 and want a child. I have been dating for years, and had several boyfriends who are just not right, or don't want kids on the same timeline, or have issues, etc etc. Some of these people had lots of money, but with this guy I chose him for what I thought were the same values and was fine with the idea that we would never be well off and I would just have to work harder (freelance work on top of full time job) to bring money in when needed, as I am lucky enough to be able to do that. We had been planning a future together, which I feel very invested, and I feel so hurt that he's said all this. I don't like his immature approach to conflict, I don't like the swearing and name calling, and I don't like the fact he takes out insecurities on me.

He has acknowledged these are his issues though. So maybe there's hope?

Obviously there are loads of good things about this man that it would take ages to list. I felt like I'd found someone who got me in ways others find hard to, we generally have a lovely time together and he's always made me feel very safe, unlike lots of other guys. He is very emotionally available usually, always there for me and generally good at talking things through. There have been no major conflicts other than this.

WWYD?

OP posts:
curiouslypacific · 04/08/2022 20:40

This man is following the script for being abusive. He'll be nice to you for a little while now so you think he's changed. Then he'll find some other reason to take issue with you, probably over something entirely trivial, just to keep you off balance. One day you'll wake up and realise you're always on edge, watching what you say and do so as not to upset him. That you can never relax in your own house; that whatever you do, it's never quite enough to make him happy. Even worse you'll watch your kids grow up tiptoeing around daddy, fearful and trying not to upset him - learning that their needs are secondary to those of an angry insecure man.

Bluetrews25 · 04/08/2022 20:41

In brief

You're not suited.
If you're on that good a wage go for artificial insemination.

Don't keep him (he sounds like he could get abusive and controlling, actually, he already is, isn't he?) just because you mistakenly think he's your only chance of being a mum.

pantherrose · 04/08/2022 20:42

He sounds insecure, jealous and threatened by your drive and your achievements. Unless he finds confidence in himself and his own contribution to your life as a couple, his innate resentment of you (and those whose lives and achievements serve to reinforce his jealousy and lack of self esteem) will crush you eventually. The relationship is unbalanced, he may be able to 'intellectualise' the problem when challenged but unless he can address the root cause, you will suffer. Long winded way of offering my first LTB.

Hurdling · 04/08/2022 20:43

Agree you’ll you’ll regret having a child with this man. How can he normally be emotionally available if this is how he’s behaving, I find that hard to believe.

CormoranStrike · 04/08/2022 20:44

RUN. FOR. THE HILLS

Thepossibility · 04/08/2022 20:44

You hurt his ego and his mask slipped. I agree he is showing you who he is and your future life of misery living with him. His ego making him lash out every day because of what you've achieved. Even worse having a child in the mix to deal with in the carnage! Consider a donor, OP. I understand the pull to reproduce but NOT WITH THIS MAN.

Signoramarella · 04/08/2022 20:46

Move on dear you deserve better. You can find another much better guy. Have your baby at 40 like I did. Not a twat in sight...omg he swore at you...imagine another 20 or 30 years of that ? No way ..raise the bar

LadyWithLapdog · 04/08/2022 20:46

Sorry OP but it looks like a rare unanimous agreement on here. Move on. You sound hard working and level headed. Don’t let this man destroy your self confidence.

Thepossibility · 04/08/2022 20:47

curiouslypacific · 04/08/2022 20:40

This man is following the script for being abusive. He'll be nice to you for a little while now so you think he's changed. Then he'll find some other reason to take issue with you, probably over something entirely trivial, just to keep you off balance. One day you'll wake up and realise you're always on edge, watching what you say and do so as not to upset him. That you can never relax in your own house; that whatever you do, it's never quite enough to make him happy. Even worse you'll watch your kids grow up tiptoeing around daddy, fearful and trying not to upset him - learning that their needs are secondary to those of an angry insecure man.

Totally agree. Also OW hiding about to massage his fragile ego while OP works her guts out to support the family. Just run.

Orangesaretheonly · 04/08/2022 20:47

Rainbowqueeen · 04/08/2022 19:55

Dealbreaker.

I feel you are letting your desire to be a mum blind you to how miserable your life will be with him in it long term. He doesn’t sound like he even likes you. You deserve to be with someone who supports you and builds you up. You’d find being a single mum much easier than putting up with this.

Precisely what I was going to say. Bin him 100% you will have dodged an absolute bullet.

himyname · 04/08/2022 20:48

YANBU

Only 6 months in, he's definitely showing his true colours. You having better earning potential than him will always be a chip on his shoulder. I understand wanting a child but please do not tie yourself to someone who treats you like this with a child. You'd be better considering whether it's an option to do it alone. You're worth so much more than this man.

lOPAS · 04/08/2022 20:49

It's a run from me.

He's an insecure idiot with the potential to be abusive.

KyaClark · 04/08/2022 20:52

It's only been six months.

It really shouldn't be this hard.

autienotnaughty · 04/08/2022 20:52

If this is what he's bringing to the table at 6m imagine the future. Life typically get more stressful with age and more responsibilities-bills, kids (if u have them) etc u need someone supporting not attacking. Personally I'd walk away now.

pictish · 04/08/2022 20:53

Must agree with the others. Calling you a ‘plastic liberal’ is what did it for me. He’s sneering at you, denigrating you, putting you down and making you feel small because his ego is swollen and fragile. He’ll help himself to a large slice of your pie while resenting you for baking it.
Fuck him off.

AchatAVendre · 04/08/2022 20:53

The only point in being with a low achiever is if they are nice. He isn't. Being with someone who belittles you, swears at you, makes you walk on eggshells and constantly criticises you grinds you down over time and you will end it eventually anyway because no-one can put up with that. What a misery he sounds.

No doubt when you do dump him he will date a woman who earns less than you and accuse her of being a golddiger after his money!

pictish · 04/08/2022 20:54

I mean six months in, it’s time enough to get a good sample of what’s on offer isn’t it? But not so long as you’re committed to the sale. Bye now.

Adversity · 04/08/2022 20:54

You shouldn’t even need to ask but I’m glad you did of course you dump him.

stillherenow · 04/08/2022 20:55

Having been in an abusive marriage, I say RUN

Snoredoeurve · 04/08/2022 20:56

curiouslypacific · 04/08/2022 20:40

This man is following the script for being abusive. He'll be nice to you for a little while now so you think he's changed. Then he'll find some other reason to take issue with you, probably over something entirely trivial, just to keep you off balance. One day you'll wake up and realise you're always on edge, watching what you say and do so as not to upset him. That you can never relax in your own house; that whatever you do, it's never quite enough to make him happy. Even worse you'll watch your kids grow up tiptoeing around daddy, fearful and trying not to upset him - learning that their needs are secondary to those of an angry insecure man.

Totally agree with this and even worse his mask has slipped so early.
6 months!!!
Please end this relationship.
It wont get better and highly likely get far,far worse.

stillherenow · 04/08/2022 20:56

Also to add bringing up my child alone has been much easier than doing jt with him. Have one on your own, put your effort into making that happen.

Brigante9 · 04/08/2022 20:57

His attitude isn’t going to change. Do you really want to be tied to him forever via a child? Please don’t have a child with him just because you’re 38.

hewouldwouldnthe · 04/08/2022 20:57

If he tells you to fuck off after 6 months, just imagine what he would do in 6 years. this is the honeymoon period, and not worth going on with

Iflyaway · 04/08/2022 20:57

Ask yourself one thing.

Is this how you see your future?

Shoxfordian · 04/08/2022 20:59

This man isn’t on your team

He sounds misogynistic, jealous, insecure

Yabu to even consider staying with him

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