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Taking DS out of school family holiday WWYD?

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Sleepregressionqueen · 03/08/2022 12:00

Just about to book our family holiday unfortunately we have to go in September as otherwise it’s just to expensive. He has the same teacher and same people in his class so not much settling in really. He will be going into year1.

we either go at the start September 13th or the 27th. I said 27th to give him a bit of time
but OH says it’s probably best we go at the start as they probably won’t be learning many new things then.

WWYD?

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curlii103 · 03/08/2022 21:28

27th have a little time to settle in.

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Hesma · 03/08/2022 23:41

He won’t know best… he’s 5 FFS. I wouldn’t take him out, just holiday within your means or wait until October half term.

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Hollyhead · 03/08/2022 23:45

I’m not an anti term time holiday person, but I would never take a child out in September. Anytime
after May half term though (assuming not exam years) is more or less ok in my opinion.

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MakeItRain · 04/08/2022 00:05

Go for 27th so he settles in a bit and gets to see the new routines. When you go, you could encourage him to write a postcard or two with a simple sentence like "I went to the beach". Help him to sound out words and and show him how to write the sounds he can hear (if he's keen to have a go). Take photos and get him to choose a couple to share with the class.

You could ask the teacher what they're focusing on that week and if possible spend a short time on something similar (for example if the class is going on a local walk and drawing a map - you could do a short walk and draw a map with your son of where you're staying).

Your son will gain and learn a huge amount from a family holiday, so I would go and enjoy yourselves :)

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Sunshineona · 04/08/2022 00:22

27th so he gets the new induction stuff like where everything is in his new classroom

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2022 00:43

I think the worst possible time to go is the very first week of term. Followed by the rest of September. The settling in time is really important, and they definitely will be learning new things.

Do you have an older, adult DS who you’re saying will know best? An5 yo definitely won’t know best - I can’t believe that you think this, unless it’s a typo.

Personally I wouldn’t take him. I would have a holiday I could afford in the school hols. If I did take a child out of school I’d avoid Sept, and most of all the first week back.

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2022 00:44

Sorry - when I say I wouldn’t take him, I mean I wouldn’t go. I don’t mean go without him!

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HopeIsNotAStrategy · 04/08/2022 03:52

Firstly, if you are considering 27th September, I'd push it back to October and save some serious money on your energy bills while you are away.

Secondly, the suggestion to overlap October half term is a good one. I used to take mine Tuesday to Tuesday as the flights were much cheaper, but they only missed a couple of days school. The temperatures will still be nice then - Spain in particular has been unbearably hot this summer.

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BigChesterDraws · 04/08/2022 05:14

Sleepregressionqueen · 03/08/2022 12:26

We’re going for a week, so he will miss 5 days.
i will speak to DS see what he thinks as he will know best.

You’re going to ask a 5-year-old tonnage the decision?

It may have advocated your attention but most people haven’t been on an overseas holiday since 2019 or before. You’re hardly in the minority there.

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BigChesterDraws · 04/08/2022 05:15

Escaped not advocated!

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drawacircleroundit · 04/08/2022 05:24

I wouldn’t go on holiday.
I think that saying that there won’t be much settling in necessary is a pretence that you’re trying to comfort yourself with.
That fizzing nervousness when your DC has to reintegrate, seeing that all the other students know the routine, what they’ve been working on etc … I couldn’t do that to mine just for the sake of a holiday. School nerves are real enough as it is with the start of a new year.

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Teder · 04/08/2022 05:33

Sleepregressionqueen · 03/08/2022 12:26

We’re going for a week, so he will miss 5 days.
i will speak to DS see what he thinks as he will know best.

I think it’s absolutely fine to take your child out of school for a week at that age and really do see the value in a family holiday but it’s not fair to ask your 5 year old their opinion! That’s inappropriate and should be an adult indecision. For what it’s worth, I wouldn’t have him miss the first week as there is a transition so I’d chose the latter date once he’s settled in his new school year. Enjoy your break.

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MsMarvellous · 04/08/2022 05:38

Our school despairs at the number of people who take their kids out. Not only does it disrupt your child, it disrupts the rest of the class. When they return the teacher has an additional burden of bringing your child back up to speed. Your child will also miss all the start of year stuff.

It would have to be something more than just a summer holiday for me to view it as worth it, or timed in the last week before Xmas or summer break when the kids do little actual learning.

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TheOnlyLivingBoyInNewCross · 04/08/2022 05:45

Sleepregressionqueen · 03/08/2022 12:15

ideally I wouldn’t take him either, but we haven’t been on holiday since 2019! We’re all desperate for one.

so we are going I’m just not sure what date would be best for DS.

Holidays aren’t going to get any cheaper during school holidays. Are you going to take him out of school every September?

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SimonaRazowska · 04/08/2022 05:54

Makes no difference

as long as you don’t ask the teacher to help DS catch up on work he’s missed

or special homework

or special help after

thst’s what is too much for teachers, and all parents seem to want to assuage their guilt by doing the above. Making more work for teacher.

people who take their kids on term time holidays clearly see school as child care rather than education. So don’t make a fuss if your child has to catch up a bit after.

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jumperoozles · 04/08/2022 06:04

Teacher here. Totally get why you would go in term time and I generally don’t mind children going in June/July time as I would do exactly the same if I could with the crazy prices! But September has to be one of the worst times to go! It will be full on learning in Year 1 and that’s when we’ll be doing the basic skills for the year e.g place value in maths, new phonics sounds etc could you at least put it back to the last week of the term before half term? I’m always a bit disappointed when a child misses a week at the beginning because they will have so much to catch up on. Disagree with others that say they won’t miss much in a week. They absolutely will! And guarantee you’ll do it right in the middle of a big write or something and your child will turn up the following Monday when everyone else is onto the next stage like inventing their own version of a story and your child won’t have a clue 😫 teaching, especially English, is done in sequences of lessons that last longer than a week.

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1AngelicFruitCake · 04/08/2022 06:16

Threads like this always have an OP who has a child who

a. has 100% attendance
b. is way ahead of their peers academically

🤔😄

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Abraxan · 04/08/2022 06:18

I teach infant age and he'll be fine to miss a week or two in September, especially as he already knows the teacher and class mates.

He will be learning new things but anything particularly important will be visited again and again; with things like English, phonics and maths it's rare for something to be covered only once. The start of year 1 should be a transient ion period too, so still a fair bit of independent choosing/continuous provision so he won't be missing full days of board learning ime.

MN will always tell you not to take a family holiday in term time but tbh it still happens a lot in the real world and, although it Isn't authorised usually the reality is that it isn't disruptive to the school, class or teacher and the vast majority of children will be perfectly fine to miss 1-2 weeks of school for a family holiday.

Fwiw we had 1-2 weeks off every year growing up (was when we had factory shutdowns and no other summer holiday options so then it not at all) and all three siblings were successful with schooling, exams and future careers. It didn't mean we didn't value education m. It simply meant we also valued family holiday time together without the constraints of housework, work, chores and normal home life.

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Abraxan · 04/08/2022 06:19

Yesmate · 03/08/2022 12:17

The transition from reception to Y1 is huge. You go from learning through play and carpet time to sitting at desks and having a far more structured timetable. The expectations are very different and they need time to adjust. I would to consider taking my child out anyway but certainly not in that first term.

In any half decent school it definitely shouldn't be a hue jump. It should be a gradual change. Any school making it a big transition going from all CP to all formal learning is not a great school tbh.

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Abraxan · 04/08/2022 06:22

There is a reason that people get fined for this.

Yes. Designed partially to prevent lengthy or numerous absences in a year, such as those who take lengthy breaks of a few weeks or those who have lots of short breaks all the time and partially to meet fisted and government targets.

But there is little to no detriment ti your average child missing a week of school for a family break.

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Obi73 · 04/08/2022 06:23

Whatever dates you choose he’ll miss either beginning to settle into the KS1 curriculum and a more formal style of learning or consolidating the new routine and expectations but kids can be resilient.
The fine is hardly going to break the bank - it’s your choice.

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prepared101 · 04/08/2022 06:23

PoundPill · 03/08/2022 13:35

I took my DS out of school for 2 weeks in Yr 1 in June and we all had a fantastic time - it was full of DC his age - go somewhere with a kids club so you all have fun and rest too

Take your kid out of school so you can take them on holiday and leave them in a probably unregulated kids club. Excellent.

I'm all for taking kids out of school for them to experience immersion in different cultures but not for a week in an all inclusive with a kids club 🙄

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Abraxan · 04/08/2022 06:28

dottiedodah · 03/08/2022 13:18

You also run the risk of being fined surely?

Here is it £60 per child per holiday, per parent. A very small amount compared to the holiday cost savings. Our LEA fines from day 5 so you can take 4 days with no fine.


I always give it interesting that those who work in schools often post it's no issue. It's usually parents who aren't school workers that say how bad it is, how it devalues the value of education and how it will disrupt the school, teacher and class. Yet the teachers, etc don't have the same issue regarding it in the whole. In real life I don't know any teachers or TAs (or interestingly a headteacher) who would be concerned with a primary age child missing school time for a holiday 🤷🏻‍♀️

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YouCanHaveAParty · 04/08/2022 06:40

I would go for the earlier date, but go midweek so that he's effectively spending some time in school, albeit a day or so, over a 2 week period iyswim?

I don't know why though, it just makes sense to me to be in school part of each week rather that out the whole of 1 week. Just my random logic.

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Hoppinggreen · 04/08/2022 06:42

I have taken my dc out of school a few days early on occasion but I wouldn’t do it in September and certainly not at the beginning of a new school year.

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