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To feel angry at Tory voters?

740 replies

Dottodo · 02/08/2022 00:52

DF has always voted Tory. He’s very anti immigration and we will never see each other’s POV.
DHs friends are all Tory voters and hate being with them as they are all racist, xenophobic & misogynistic.
Other Tory voters I know through work or extended family members are also xenophobic and casually racist.
I’ve spoken to friends about this and they agree that the Tory voters they personally know are also racist and xenophobic.
Why is this?
Me and DH lived abroad and as we've lived as ‘foreigners’, we don’t share their views.

OP posts:
ifonly4 · 02/08/2022 08:38

I vote conservative (most of the time). I have one lovely friend here from abroad and I truly care about them, she is a life long friend and I'd do anything I could for her. Also, my lovely SIL. I have two work colleagues from abroad who I regularly have coffee with a chat outside after work and I have two lovely line managers - the latter are going to new jobs soon and I'm truly going to miss them, and I have to say they've been the best line managers I've had (nine). So I object, that you think I fit into your profile.

The above have made their home here for different reasons, escaping an abusive relationship, two gave up everything they knew and married English men, the others came here for a better live - when you hear about their history each and every one of them hasn't had it easy and I'm so glad they've found somewhere they can settle.

Runwalkskijump · 02/08/2022 08:38

Well OP you sound delightful. Now do Labour voters, no let me guess, they all sweetness and light and burp rainbows? Apart from that isn't true either is it.

I am not a Tory voter but I know people who are and none are like this.

ClocksGoingBackwards · 02/08/2022 08:41

If you want to be pissed off at people for voting with racist and xenophobic views you have half a country full of brexit voters to aim at and they actually deserve it.

Tory voters aren’t your problem.

BirmaBrite · 02/08/2022 08:44

What @Whatafustercluck said with bell's on !

MarshaBradyo · 02/08/2022 08:45

ClocksGoingBackwards · 02/08/2022 08:41

If you want to be pissed off at people for voting with racist and xenophobic views you have half a country full of brexit voters to aim at and they actually deserve it.

Tory voters aren’t your problem.

Don’t worry there’s another thread doing the same

lots of anger flying about for all kinds of voters

TeenDivided · 02/08/2022 08:46

ClocksGoingBackwards · 02/08/2022 08:41

If you want to be pissed off at people for voting with racist and xenophobic views you have half a country full of brexit voters to aim at and they actually deserve it.

Tory voters aren’t your problem.

And again with the generalisations.
People voted Brexit for various reasons, some yes for racist views, but others because they view the EU as corrupt, unable to look after its own finances, wanting Britain to set its own agenda etc. (I voted Remain but can absolutely see why people might have viewed things differently.)

Primatrying · 02/08/2022 08:47

Most Tory voters I know are not racist or the other things you mentioned. They generally vote Tory because they like Labour less (particularly Corbyn), or think they are better for the economy.

I have met a few that meet your description however. I was very uncomfortable.

I voted Tory in the past because of the economic argument. But I will never vote for them again after Brexit and the behaviour of people like Boris Johnson (and others) who seem to be lying self-serving backstabbers with no integrity.

x2boys · 02/08/2022 08:47

Yet again labour voters think they can change the way people vote by insulting them,its not worked so far why do you think it will work now?

MissGlitterSparkles · 02/08/2022 08:56

You feel angry at Tory voters. Well I feel angry at Labour voters because they don’t think the same way I do.

Except I don’t feel angry at them…the beauty of living in a democracy is that we all have different views and political leanings and we are allowed to follow them. I respect the views of all the people I know, whether they are left or right - regardless of whether I agree with them.

Forcing someone to think the same way that you do and being angry at them when they don’t think that way is wrong on so many levels.

Onlyhuman123 · 02/08/2022 08:57

Danceswithkids · 02/08/2022 01:34

Of course the Tories know what a woman is, how else would they know who to screw over?

I actually think most people in this country end up voting for 'the party they hate least'.

And then a bunch of incompetent and/or corrupt politicians make decisions to keep themselves on top, but it's all right because we had the democratic choice of which bunch of short sighted self serving wankers are screwing us.

this with bloody bells on.

Fluffyboo · 02/08/2022 08:57

Rinatinabina · 02/08/2022 06:50

Five quid says you are a Conservative HQ operative deployed to drive people away from Labour.

And judging by the disgusting responses, will be doing a pretty good job of losing Labour any floating voters.

pointythings · 02/08/2022 08:58

I think this thread is probably going to be zapped, but FWIW I'm as left wing as they come and I think you are massively U. None of my Tory voting friends are anything like the people you describe. About half voted Remain. All are appalled at what the Westminster Tory party has become, most will either be voting elsewhere or not at all in the next election. There are many decent people who are conservatives. I disagree with them over very many things, but that's life.

Lonelycrab · 02/08/2022 09:01

What @Whatafustercluck said with bell's on

I agree.

Whatafustercluck · 02/08/2022 09:02

I don't think the 'economy' argument holds weight any more tbh. Or that it ever did. Our national debt is now higher than it ever has been in history. OK, we had the pandemic. But that was on top of an already disastrous Brexit policy (masterminded by none other than Cummings and Johnson) and a series of fatally flawed decisions by the governing Tory party.

Similarly, the Tories have been in power for three largest amount of time of any political party. If the economic argument holds any weight, the UK should be flying. Economically it's weaker than at any point in history. And still we hear 'but what about the Brown/ Blair years?' 12 years in power, and nothing is materially better as a result. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. We keep voting Tories in.

MarshaBradyo · 02/08/2022 09:02

Fluffyboo · 02/08/2022 08:57

And judging by the disgusting responses, will be doing a pretty good job of losing Labour any floating voters.

It probably will drive people away but enough of these type of threads I reckon not to first suggestion

Just your average angry person not getting the votes they want

GrouchyKiwi · 02/08/2022 09:03

Your anger is misplaced. You should be angry at the politicians of all stripes who are constantly betraying their constituents and serving themselves. You should be angry at the politicians who crumble to the pressure of special interest groups who don't care at all about anyone else. You should be angry at a system that makes voters choose the Least Worst option instead of being able to vote for someone who will actually do a good job.

Voters aren't the ones at fault here.

pylonpal · 02/08/2022 09:08

I think it’s probably more to do with the demographic of people you know then how they vote.
Tory voters I know are not how you describe.
I do know left wing voters Who subscribe to views I regard as deeply misogynistic. I also generally find them intolerant of anyone who does not agree with them, and quick to label people with different opinions as ‘thick’.

apintortwo · 02/08/2022 09:11

Even he would say that there have been some decent senior Tories over time - Heath, Heseltine, even Major (though ineffective as PM). He couldn't bring himself to 'hate' any of them, because they were largely respectful, 'one nation' Tories who held their office with seriousness

I think it was a very different era.

There wasn't as much globalisation and people didn't have to contend with the current constant push to erase national identities and slowly degrade society's fabric. Citizens were not being asked to make sacrifices in the name of causes that were not their own or to finance the needs of those who they did not relate with. Of course there's going to be backlash. It's not only a UK problem.

I would be interested to understand how the OP or other posters describe xenophobia and racism.

Manekinek0 · 02/08/2022 09:12

Everyone I know who voted Tory did so because they truly believed that Labour would bankrupt the country, they wanted Brexit to go ahead or that JC was a terrorist sympathiser.

Georgeskitchen · 02/08/2022 09:13

Calling all tory voters racist bigots is bigotry in itself. You might as well have said I know 10 people from Xx country and I don't like their views, so therefore I hate all people from Xx country. That is what racism and bigotry is.
So OP, you have made yourself look rather silly.

LondonWolf · 02/08/2022 09:14

Manekinek0 · 02/08/2022 09:12

Everyone I know who voted Tory did so because they truly believed that Labour would bankrupt the country, they wanted Brexit to go ahead or that JC was a terrorist sympathiser.

Same. Plus Jeremy Corbyn.

LondonWolf · 02/08/2022 09:15

Sorry missed the JC bit.

Peasinapod9 · 02/08/2022 09:15

I wouldn’t say I’m a diehard Labour voter, just refuse to vote Tory and there isn’t really another viable party to vote for.

I vote Green and always have! Since I have been able to vote anyway, which was the 90s.

I am angry with the press and the government but the voters have been sold a lie. We haven’t been properly governed for 10 years. The country is an absolute shambles.

JosephineGH · 02/08/2022 09:16

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roarfeckingroarr · 02/08/2022 09:16

Yawn.

Blame Labour Party members for voting Corbyn as leader and thereby making the 2019 election a shoe in for a large Tory majority.