To feel angry at Tory voters?

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DF has always voted Tory. He’s very anti immigration and we will never see each other’s POV.
DHs friends are all Tory voters and hate being with them as they are all racist, xenophobic & misogynistic.
Other Tory voters I know through work or extended family members are also xenophobic and casually racist.
I’ve spoken to friends about this and they agree that the Tory voters they personally know are also racist and xenophobic.
Why is this?
Me and DH lived abroad and as we've lived as ‘foreigners’, we don’t share their views.

They don’t have to vote, it’s not compulsory and many probably won’t anyway, but fortunately you or other people who want to don’t get to take away their right.

It's quite easy to be vitriolic and offensive towards people and still post within the guidelines. Just because more posts have been deleted by right wing posters (if they actually have, I haven't read the full thread) that doesn't mean no vitriol has come from the hard left. Indeed a LOT has!

I have seen some vile comments from hard left people that are still standing, and I am shocked that they are. Obviously middle of the road and right wing posters are not so likely to hit the report button as the hard left.

Andrea do you think anyone with special needs should be tested before they vote or just those over 75?

At this point I say let it stand, it shows the tolerant left idea is very strained

The state will step in when or if you are judged to lack capacity, yet people who don't know who their children are & are not allowed to mange their finances, can vote.

I'm all for expanding voting rights and removing barriers to vote but perhaps those on the right wing here should remember its the Tories who are insisting that we all have to have voter ID, which will effect the voting chances of millions.

Wonder why they are doing that? but its the left that are anti democratic....

Obviously middle of the road and right wing posters are not so likely to hit the report button as the hard left

Oh please. 😂

Obviously middle of the road and right wing posters are not so likely to hit the report button as the hard left

Oh stop it. You’re being just as deliberately divisive as anyone else.

I would say that what 16 year olds lack is experience, rather than maturity.

I'd actually be in favour of raising the age back to 21, when most finish full-time education.

JC was portrayed as a terrorist sympathizer

@AndreaC74 you write that as if to imply that it was the media's fault.

Given his latest speech blaming the west for the war in Ukraine, rather than Russia, he's clearly not changed.

The whole thread should stand. Neither left nor right is coming over particularly well.

as the saying goes ‘’not every Brexiteer is a racist, but every racist is a Brexiteer’’

Bollocks, I knew at least one racist who voted Remain.

It's quite easy to be vitriolic and offensive towards people and still post within the guidelines. Just because more posts have been deleted by right wing posters (if they actually have, I haven't read the full thread) that doesn't mean no vitriol has come from the hard left. Indeed a LOT has!
I have seen some vile comments from hard left people that are still standing, and I am shocked that they are. Obviously middle of the road and right wing posters are not so likely to hit the report button as the hard left

Obviously not, the balanced and fair minded right are rarely at fault are they?

Seen plenty of posts from both sides deleted, with both sides of the debate willing to hit the report button.

You also use the term Hard Left as an insult...

You've not read the thread but its Hideous and should have been deleted? riiiiight on!

Same here, @Blossomtoes

When they’ve held Question Time for young audiences, the participants have been every bit as engaged and informed as the standard audiences (in fact rather more so, often). I also think in this politically apathetic nation trying to engage people sooner rather than later is probably a good thing. I don’t see a good reason not to give the vote to 16/17 yr olds. Driving is more of a responsibility, I’d think.

It really doesn’t matter if many people with dementia won’t vote it’s that people want to take that right away

It’s weird to say the AS don’t know about their topic. I say good on them for sticking up for the people within their remit. The thought of stripping votes does not sit well in a democratic society

it’s interesting also that a lot of leave voters had no formal qualifications

Mickey mouse degrees nowadays are a dime a dozen, so 'formal qualifications' is hardly an indication of anything, let alone intelligence

You won’t convince people of this btw.

Or maybe they just recognise the impracticality of implementing such a scheme. Where do you draw the line? What about those who've had no diagnosis?

A minimum age on the other hand is at least a very easy thing to enforce

His comments on halting the supply of weapons to Ukraine is beyond belief...

Shows a complete lack of understanding of what Putin wants, which is ALL of Ukraine.

The media portrayed Corbyn as if he supported the IRA, which is still a criminal offence and one he would have been put on trial for.

He is a very popular democratically elected MP.

I think he should be kicked out of Labour, not just suspended.

I think one problem could be that it’s very possible that a carer could more easily force them to vote differently to how they would if not suffering from dementia. There’s a strong chance of abuse. But a slippery slope perhaps. I don’t have the answers.

I REALLY don't care.

That’s good I agree with you by the way, but it falls on deaf ears for a few

Really how much would that happen?

Caring for someone is hard work and often done from a place of kindness. If you care about them and doing something difficult or confusing or upsetting why would you?

If there are people who are abusive, which is sadly the case, I doubt it’s votes which they do it with

It’s a bogeyman imo, we should not strip away right to vote as it’s anti democratic.

Thank you. 😘

Are those young audiences as representative of wider society (for their age group at least) as the adult ones? I would suggest that the kids who are involved in such programmes are unusually engaged.

As it happens I am in favour of introducing curbs on young (U21) drivers. There have been far too many innocent victims of reckless behaviour. So I'd introduce measures like banning the carrying of passengers who are also U21. Black boxes and speed limiters would be mandatory (in fact, I'd fit limiters to all new cars).