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Toddler left in her room 4 hours

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RedRobyn2021 · 30/07/2022 21:12

Come at me if you don't like what I'm going to say

I started following this girl on Instagram because she was pregnant like me and 18 months on I am still following her

She has just left her daughter in her cot for a nap for 3 hours. Her daughter hasn't been asleep for that entire time. She has just been in her cot alone, in a dark room with white noise on in the middle of the day.

She finally fell asleep and then she woke her an hour later because it would disrupt her bedtime.

I don't care if you all think I'm a horrible judgemental person, at the end of the day she thinks this is so acceptable that she's put it up on the internet for everyone to see.

Is this not a form of child abuse? Like wtaf am I being unreasonable????? At this age this kid is meant to be learning about the world around her not spending FOUR HOURS in a room in the dark ALONE in the middle of the day.

If I am being unreasonable, I actually don't care. I want to cry for that poor, poor kid. Like should I say something before I unfollow her? Or is this how some parents just treat their children on a daily basis? Is this what sleep training is??

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Stickworm · 31/07/2022 07:34

If the child is 18 months there is also a well known sleep regression at this time. Toddlers can’t help this, their brain chemistry is changing all the time. Imagine not being tired as an adult but being put in a large cot for 4 hours in the dark with blaring loud noise 🙄

Stickworm · 31/07/2022 07:36

If the child is 18 months there is also a well known sleep regression at this time. Toddlers can’t help this, their brain chemistry is changing all the time. Imagine not being tired as an adult but being put in a large cot for 4 hours in the dark with blaring loud noise 🙄

fUNNYfACE36 · 31/07/2022 10:06

Festoonlights · 30/07/2022 22:11

I would see the posting of this on the internet as a cry for help. Op call SS now - tonight. This is precisely how terrible things happen to small children. People doubting themselves and second guessing motivation.

it’s NEVER okay to leave a toddler in a cot for hours on end in the dark alone

What? everybody does exactly that every night!

fUNNYfACE36 · 31/07/2022 10:09

pushions · 30/07/2022 23:01

How did the mother take footage if she left the child alone? How long was the child asleep for. I don't think you can assume something on insta is the truth.

And how did she show clips if it was dark?

girlmom21 · 31/07/2022 10:30

Triffid14 · 30/07/2022 23:06

The mum in question is a great mum. I follow her. She provides loads of stimulation for her child and is not abusive and the comparisons to orphanages etc is unfounded. It’s all been taken completely out of context. I really don’t understand how someone can take one post a mother makes out of hundreds and claim abuse on a public forum!

So what's the context?

CecilyP · 31/07/2022 10:39

fUNNYfACE36 · 31/07/2022 00:05

The comparison with Romanian orphans living in their cot is ridiculous.Thus baby is only in his cot at night and at nap time
If seems the mother is trying to put the baby in a routine .

Oh come off it. A 4 hour daytime nap for an 18 month old is ridiculous. And she was only napping for an hour ( which is pretty normal) anyway.

ManateeFair · 31/07/2022 11:01

Concentrate on your own parenting instead of hate-following other mums on social media and posting weird aggressive rants about them.

Ilovechocolate87 · 31/07/2022 11:12

THIS! Was going to say the same myself. Children in the awful abusive Romanian orphanages were silent...they had given up crying because there was no point as it would not work to get their needs met.
Classic sign of extreme neglect, So I would be very worried if the child was not in those 3 hours doing something to demand the parents attention and seeking interaction...at any age not alone an older baby or toddler! My 2 and other babies I've seen have never stayed quiet in their cots playing for more than about 10/15 mins or so at a time before or after naps.

Would be interested to hear what the other are posts like? And if others commented on this one with concerns too?

Not 100% saying that level of abuse is happening but I really think you should report her for neglect if you possibly can.

Festoonlights · 31/07/2022 11:21

No two year old lies passively in a cot for 3/4 hours in a dark room with no adult present. Report it and let the professionals decide, poor little tot.
Leaving such young children alone for hours on end is total neglect pure and simple. Why isn’t she drinking - surely it’s too long to leave her without a drink or a snack? Playing? Communicating?

Of course it is your business, a child’s safety and well being is everyone’s business. Report it today.

Didimum · 31/07/2022 11:22

fUNNYfACE36 · 31/07/2022 10:09

And how did she show clips if it was dark?

Baby monitor with night cam.

Festoonlights · 31/07/2022 11:23

fUNNYfACE36 · 31/07/2022 10:06

What? everybody does exactly that every night!

Don’t be silly, everyone generally sleeps all night! How many 4 hour naps do you have every single day?

Comtesse · 31/07/2022 11:26

YABU for worrying about how some random is managing her child. Time to unfollow or delete social media for a bit I would say.

Festoonlights · 31/07/2022 11:27

Of course because heaven forbid someone actually looks out for a toddler

1982mommaof4 · 31/07/2022 12:22

@RedRobyn2021 how long was she awake out of those four hours?

justasking111 · 31/07/2022 13:29

1982mommaof4 · 31/07/2022 12:22

@RedRobyn2021 how long was she awake out of those four hours?

Three

Stickworm · 31/07/2022 16:43

@RedRobyn2021 did you do anything OP?

user29 · 31/07/2022 17:47

Festoonlights · 31/07/2022 11:23

Don’t be silly, everyone generally sleeps all night! How many 4 hour naps do you have every single day?

you said

"it’s NEVER okay to leave a toddler in a cot for hours on end in the dark alone"

and where are you gettng that this happens 'every singe day'? . There is nothing to suggest it was not a one off

thisisit77 · 31/07/2022 19:02

Is she a blogger or something?

Johnnysgirl · 31/07/2022 19:06

but sleep is just as important for brain development. She gets plenty of stimulation but she needs sleep to balance that out!
Op has said the child was awake in a darkened room for three hours, and spent another hour asleep.
That would have a very negative effect on brain development if it happened regularly.
Whether she was crying or not is utterly irrelevant.

ImustLearn2Cook · 01/08/2022 02:04

Following is a paragraph from: www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/sleep-children-and-naps

Toddlers need, on average, around 10 to 12 hours sleep per night, and still need daytime naps. A young child’s sleeping routine at night can be severely disrupted if they don’t get enough sleep during the day, or if their afternoon nap is too close to bedtime.

I think that this mum is really just trying to do what’s best for her child. Yes, taking 3 hrs to fall asleep is a lot. Some of us will find it’s best for our child to get them up before then. Some of us might find that if we do that, then our child becomes overtired and it interferes with their night time sleep and how they cope for the rest of the day.

Accusing a parent of abuse based on assumptions, when that parent is most likely acting in the best interest of their child is absolutely disgusting. All we have is the way it has been presented to us by the Op.

RedRobyn2021 · 01/08/2022 08:01

Sorry I disappeared my app stopped working. Just reading through some of your comments now. I haven't said anything to her, there was so many people saying I was overreacting I didn't know if it was the right thing to do.

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RedRobyn2021 · 01/08/2022 08:07

@ImustLearn2Cook she has a baby camera, so you can see your child on the camera in the dark. So as far as I know she was just checking the camera.

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RedRobyn2021 · 01/08/2022 08:13

@Triffid14

You follow her as well? Do you watch her stories regularly?

Do you think this is something that's happened before? I feel like it's been eluded to that she's been left a long time before, but I just brushed it away thinking I must have got the wrong end of the stick. But when she actually said she'd been in there that long I couldn't believe it.

When I wrote the original post I felt passionately upset for her daughter. I haven't said anything to her because opinion on here seems divided.

I know she is going through a lot. But if you follow her then you will have seen more than the other posters and know more context. Do you think that is ok that she's doing this? I think what makes me feel uncomfortable is this is what she shows on camera, what is going on that she isn't showing?

Do you have children? Would you do the same?

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SherbetDips · 01/08/2022 08:22

It’s not child abuse, naps and learning to wind down and relax is an important part of child development. I personally wouldn’t leave a wide awake child 3 hours but Say I put baby down at 1 they would stay in bed till 3 as that’s the routine.

Calphurnia88 · 01/08/2022 09:08

Sleep is important but if it's taking 3 HOURS for a child to fall asleep then I would assume they aren't tired enough/yet. Being left in the dark with nothing but white noise to entertain them for such a long time feels very wrong, and surely they would need feeding/changing at some point (thinking about their basic needs).

Abuse is a strong word, but I do think this mum needs some guidance.