To ask where the hashtag prince of pegging came from?

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DH is looking at Twitter and it's obviously about Prince William's alleged affair but can't figure out where it's coming from now all of a sudden. Anyone in the know?

@Thepeopleversuswork 🙌That's the full "Mick Lynch" 😀

To be honest, I’ve not seen anyone, apart from on Mumsnet, express anger towards Harry and Meghan

US Supreme Court Judge Samuel Alito?

@MsBucket but the strong emotions are insane because all these people are complete strangers. It's like people think H&M have attacked their granny! I genuinely don't understand it.

Personally, when I heard that story I just I thought William was trying to be the responsible older brother who just wanted to detract attention away from the story by using a budget airline.

detract attention away from the private jet story?

Not everything is an attack or a dig.

Of course & I don't think it was in anyway malicious. I just think the firm thought optics look bad so let's highlight the budget flight. But I think any PR professional would know it would mean more criticism for Harry.

It’s like the time when some people were speculating why Harry and William were not standing together during Philip’s funeral procession or something like that when I just had to do a quick research on Google to find out the oldest grandson would be standing in the middle etc. I just felt like people are just stoking the flames and causing drama when there needn’t be.

Agree with this, it's nonsense. people analysing their foot direction to highlight a rift 🙄

How would he purchase the pegging equipment?

Prince William Arthur Philip Louis, Duke of Cambridge, KG, KT, PC, ADC
Kensington Palace Apartment 1A
Kensington Palace Gardens
Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea
London
W8 4PZ.

"Hello your Royal Highness, if you could just sign for this 14" inch strap on and butt plug starter kit. Ta"

The Daily Mail clickbait stories crack me up. 3000 comments on a H&M story saying why are they always in the papers I thought they wanted privacy. 😆

That’s not what I meant. I meant if there was / is / will be affairs - is it likely the OW will become Queen?

I don’t care what people do behind closed doors but I do think that another affair/divorce/family breakdown of the next in line to the throne - could be be the end of the monarchy.

I expect Jeeves organises the purchasing of said equipment and the details are all recorded in the Junior Ganymede club book next to the entry on 'Eulalie'.

Can you explain why Harry and Meghan being popular could possibly be a negative for the royal family, and why anyone would be scared by their success?

The monarchy is not a popularity contest. It’s not like everyone could just decide that they liked Harry and Megan better and they should be the next king and queen. It just doesn’t work that way.

The same as people positing that the ‘grey men’ (courtiers) are responsible for spreading rumours about H & M. It’s just absolutely absurd, what on earth would they have to gain by this?

It doesn’t deflect or draw attention away from other (scandals) eg Andrew, it just makes the whole family look bad.

if this were true, it would also mean Charles and William allowed this to happen. Before the falling out, they were a close family, esp William and Harry. I cannot believe he’d throw his younger brother under a bus to save his sketchy uncle.

And finally, surely they’ve all learned from what happened with Diana. Unhappy family relationships and unhappy family members are recipes for disaster. The future of the monarchy and the RF depends on them working as a united team.

Also btw, I certainly don’t think you could call Harry and Meghans Australian tour a resounding success.

Nobody ever learns do they? Look at the recent cases brought in relation to the “evidence” used in Diana’s interview with Martin Bashir. Peoples lives were ruined- not just members of the royal family who some people seem to see as fair game, but staff, members of the production team, “normal” people. The whole thing was fuelled by lies, spread as credible rumours and used to manipulate a vulnerable woman and everyone else was just collateral. And that was the BBC. It wasn’t the tabloids, or an anonymous online gossip forum or social media, it was our state media outlet. And they got away with it for so long because people can’t resist a bit of scandal and they don’t really care if it’s true. Last week there was handwringing about Martin Bashir, this week everyone is chatting gleefully about a stranger’s anus.

If laws are being broken, people trafficked for sex, public money used for dubious aims, people exploited and hurt by our royal family, then I want to know. Gossip about lawful private lives shouldn’t be a matter of public interest.

the end of the monarchy.

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They are clever at distracting the masses with all sorts of tricks.. Plus Rose is a lovely name.

It's the Butterfly Effect.

One meteorologist remarked that if the theory were correct, one flap of a sea gull's wings would be enough to alter the course of the weather forever. The controversy has not yet been settled, but the most recent evidence seems to favour the seagulls.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

So, let’s get this right.. Pippa gives birth to a girl, and her in laws, backed up by the ‘palace press machine’ demand that she and her husband name the baby Rose so that everyone can claim it as proof that there was no affair.

Sure, sounds totally reasonable.

Yep we are.

It was reported widely in other countries at the time but the British press were gagged by Wills. It was also reported that the real reason for Harry and Wills fallout was this and how disgusted Harry was that his brother chose this path after what it did to his parents.
It was only the Uk press that led with ‘we hate Megan’ headlines and the British people seemed to lap up and relish in the hate. Even on sites like this they went with the narrative. ‘Well it’s clear she is evil because an article written by Kates second cousins sisters hairdresser’s cleaner says Megan is difficult’. Plus she ghosted poor grown man Piers Morgan who was such an upset poppet that he has basically stalked her ever since. Meanwhile the country is frothing at the fanny over Kate’s new dress from next she wore twice. She so one of us.

I think a lot of people are way too over-invested in the smalldoings of the Royal Family.

“In the course of my life I have developed five little democratic questions. If one meets a powerful person — Adolf Hitler, Joe Stalin or Bill Gates — ask them five questions:

What power have you got?
Where did you get it from?
In whose interests do you exercise it?
To whom are you accountable?
And how can we get rid of you?’
If you cannot get rid of the people who govern you, you do not live in a democratic system.”

Tony Benn

I think that Meghan having a moan on the African tour they recorded for ITV pre covid really put a lot of people off them both as up to that point there was a lot of support for them. It didn't throw either of them into a good light.
For me that was a bit of a turning point and of course there were all the other leaks after that too about the wedding fall out and negative press in general.
I don't really care about any of them, once the Queen dies I feel that Charles will be adequate but not that well liked and that may just scale back the monarchy a lot and hope that things just tick over. There is still a lot of support for them too in the real world , more so than you would think on mumsnet!

Can you explain why Harry and Meghan being popular could possibly be a negative for the royal family, and why anyone would be scared by their success?

Because the goal is to keep the heir more popular surely? I don't think it was a negative & thought it reflected well on the Royals but for some reason something switched after that in the press. The Royals are scared of falling out of public favour because it's an outdated model, look around the world & the Royals can't exist in current form without goodwill. There is certainly far less goodwill to other members vs the Queen. William has grown in popularity helped by marriage & dc but also imo because Harry has fallen in popularity by "betraying" whoever.

The monarchy is not a popularity contest. It’s not like everyone could just decide that they liked Harry and Megan better and they should be the next king and queen. It just doesn’t work that way.

Where did I say that? But members have often been pitted against each other, see Fergie vs Di, what was the need for that?

The same as people positing that the ‘grey men’ (courtiers) are responsible for spreading rumours about H & M. It’s just absolutely absurd, what on earth would they have to gain by this?

Why is it absurd? Do you think the Royals can exist without good PR? Do you think Di was talking rubbish about the grey men?

if this were true, it would also mean Charles and William allowed this to happen. Before the falling out, they were a close family, esp William and Harry. I cannot believe he’d throw his younger brother under a bus to save his sketchy uncle.

I don't think they threw H under the bus to protect Andrew but I do think there would have been far more uproar if H had done what A has done. The press & the royals have a love/hate relationship because publicity is what the Royals need.

And finally, surely they’ve all learned from what happened with Diana. Unhappy family relationships and unhappy family members are recipes for disaster. The future of the monarchy and the RF depends on them working as a united team.

Do you think they have learned? I don't & I agree the future depends on unity, do you see a united family?

Me too. Proper bellow of laughter 😭

Gossip about lawful private lives shouldn’t be a matter of public interest.

Hmm, I think this is verging on cakeism.

These people are put on a pedestal for us to gawp at. That's the deal they've done with the devil.

It's not reasonable to parade the big wedding and blushing bride in front of us for the approval rating and then expect everyone to discretely look away if he cheats on her.

@MarieIVanArkleStinks "honking like a bilious goose" is also inspired!

Also btw, I certainly don’t think you could call Harry and Meghans Australian tour a resounding success.

I never said it was a resounding success but wasn't it Meghans first one & she was pregnant without a long time to prepare. I couldn't do it & yes I think the press was far more positive vs Williams Caribbean one.

That Ryanair tweet 😆

The RF are desperate to push that narrative (And William slagging off his own mother and trying to censor her own voice is despicable), but it's pretty clear that Diana was desperate to do a TV interview because she'd been silenced and gaslighted for so long and she badly wanted her voice to be heard. It's naïve to think she would have stayed silent if not for Bashir. If Bashir hadn't done what he did then Diana maybe would have done the interview with someone else, but she definitely would have done a TV interview with someone.

The Bashir interview was about Charles' affair with Camilla, not TLB. The content of the interview didn't even have anything to do with Bashir lying about TLB. Diana was always going to speak out about the fact Charles cheated on her and gaslighted her, and the fact the "little grey men" controlled her and had a vicious smear campaign against her in the press.

Trying to blame it on Bashir is just yet more gaslighting and censorship. If "lives were destroyed" they were destroyed not by Bashir but by Charles' decision to cheat on his wife and Charles and the rest of the Firm weaponising the press to attack and smear Diana.

What happened to Diana is exactly what's happening to Meghan: Diana was more popular than Charles and so broke the cardinal rule that no one can outshine the monarch and the heir. The palace launched a vicious smear campaign against Diana, the palace tried to paint Diana as mentally ill, the palace accused Diana of bullying staff. All the exact same things they did to Meghan.

I think that Meghan having a moan on the African tour they recorded for ITV pre covid really put a lot of people off them both as up to that point there was a lot of support for them. It didn't throw either of them into a good light.

Yes she had a moan, I just don't think that qualifies her to be public enemy royal no 1.