To be terrified that my 4yr old dd is starting school in September

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Is it just me? The thought of sending her to school in September makes me feel sick. No parent should be terrified of their children starting school.

I'm speaking of the new RSE curriculum. Parents no longer have a right to opt out. Parents do not have the right to demand to see what their children are being taught. Dangerous ideology will embedded into every lesson.

5000 parents are taking the Welsh Government to court and the case has been accepted.

Schools seem to be following a script when met with questions about the new RSE. Safeguarding, age appropriate. Who decides what is age appropriate for our children?

They're so embarrassing aren't they?

Mate I'm as GC as they come but you're being over the top here. Your kids will learn all sorts at school, from both teachers and other kids (and their parents!) You sometimes will need to combat this with a "some people think X but in our family we think Y" kind of formula.

I talk to my 8 and 10 yo DCs regularly about things like body parts and can boys "turn into girls" because they hear stuff from other kids whose parents let them have free range on tiktok and youtube. We talk about these things as a belief other people have, like believing in astrology signs or that someone is a prophet, we can respect they have those beliefs but not participate in ourselves if we don't believe the same.

Don't go panicking about "dangerous ideology" or making issues with school before they happen. Talk to your school, talk to your child, if they ever come home saying "teacher says X" that you disagree with then write politely to the teacher and ask for clarification that the teacher really said X because 99% of the time DCs get the wrong end of the stick and you need to set them straight at home. That's your job as a parent.

I just find the assumption that schools are stuffed with boundary pushing anti safeguarding TRAs to be... odd. Teachers will take this curriculum and adapt it. What I wouldn't be happy with is external companies coming into teach but again, good communication with school will help this.

You can take your kid out of any lesson you choose, whether you do that overtly or covertly.

Again, it's right that this issue is getting sunlight, it's right that parents are working together to challenge it but it is NOT something to be getting 'terrified' about. My school taught my (autistic and diet restricted) son that full fat milk was bad. I said 'that's nice dear, I don't agree, here's why' and kept buying full fat milk. A parent's influence is far, far stronger than school's will ever be.

Prob the worst thing that will happen is they’ll learn the ‘no no square’ song and sing it as nauseum. It’s v annoying.

Alllll of this. Your reaction is very over the top.

You might want to try reading the guidance on the welsh curriculum rather than the rantings of a paranoid depressed man. Here's the guidance on health and wellbeing from the Welsh Government
Developing physical health and well-being has lifelong benefits.

This Area can help learners to understand the factors that affect physical health and well-being. This includes health-promoting behaviours such as physical activity, including but not limited to sport; balanced diet; personal care and hygiene; sleep; and protection from infection. It also includes an understanding of health-harming behaviours.
From this understanding, learners can develop positive, informed behaviours that encourage them both to care for and respect themselves and others. These behaviours support learners’ sense of self-worth, their overall mood and energy levels.
Learners will be encouraged to develop the confidence, motivation, physical competence, knowledge and understanding that can help them lead healthy and active lifestyles which promote good physical health and well-being.

How we process and respond to our experiences affects our mental health and emotional well-being.
This Area can help learners explore the connections between their experiences, mental health and emotional well-being. By being provided with opportunities to explore the complexities of these connections, learners can be enabled to recognise that feelings and emotions are neither fixed nor consistent.
Having an awareness of our own feelings and emotions is the foundation upon which empathy can be developed. This can enable us to act in a way which supports the mental health and emotional well-being of others. Supporting learners to develop strategies which help them to regulate their emotions can contribute towards good mental health and emotional well-being, enabling learners to recognise when and where to seek help and support; to develop awareness of mental health issues and are able to advocate on behalf of others.
By learning how to communicate their feelings, learners will be better placed to create a culture where talking about mental health and emotional well-being is normalised.
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A key decision that affects learners for life is around their career pathways.
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This Area can help learners understand the important role of social influences on their lives. These influences are comprised of rules, social norms, attitudes and values that are created and reinforced by different social groups. It is through interaction with social groups that we experience these influences. They affect our identity, values, behaviours and health and well-being, and often do so without our being aware of it.
Learners will need to engage critically with these social influences within their own culture, as well as those of others, in order to understand how norms and values develop. This can enable them to understand how their own behaviours, relationships and experiences are shaped.
Healthy relationships are fundamental to our well-being.
This Area can help learners understand and value how feelings of belonging and connection that come from healthy relationships have a powerful effect on health well-being.
Learners need to recognise when relationships are unhealthy and need to be aware of how to keep safe, and seek support for themselves and others.
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As a result, they will see how healthy relationships are vital for a healthy body and mind, allowing us to thrive.
hwb.gov.wales/curriculum-for-wales/health-and-well-being/statements-of-what-matters/

The curriculum also endorses giving schools much much more freedom in what they teach whole adhering to general principles laid out in the guidance so maybe get involved with the school and the governers and help shape it?
hwb.gov.wales/api/storage/afca43eb-5c50-4846-9c2d-0d56fbffba09/curriculum-for-wales-guidance-120320.pdf

It isn't just based on those article. It's just one example.

Terrified? Feeling sick? Totally over the top reaction. Get a grip.

Is it based on actually reading the curriculum or talking to your school cos if not, it's you winding yourself up over shit on the internet

I also follow Kellie Jay Keen too. Some more material for bored men's rights activists to mock me about. Fill ya boots.

If it helps I am GC both my sons attended a Stonewalled secondary school and sixth form and they both are strong GC believers. You can counter anything they learn in school and they should know the other side of any thinking. Knowledge is important. Don't shout over it, don't end conversations, turn it into a discussion.

We are also atheists and neither of my sons sitting through hymn practise and CofE teaching believe in a god. I showed them Stephen Fry's response to if you get to heaven and it is all true what would you say to God?

Learning isn't a bad thing, even if what they are learning isn't what you agree on and with. Discuss things with your children. Even very young ones. My sons have watched lots of debates on issues, listening to both sides including the Roe V Wade stuff that is going on in the US.

All my ds learned in the first few years was that families can have one mummy or two, one daddy or two, sometimes grannies or grandads, and it didn't matter which.

And that pants are private which I had already taught him anyway.

Honestly, you need to calm down.

DS, now 13, came home last term and told me that trans women are women so I showed him a picture of that trans swimmer and asked ds if he thought they were a man or a woman. He said man. It made him see both sides and now he doesn't think twaw.

Children aren't daft. Present them with the reality and they will draw their own (logical) conclusions. Credit ypur child with some intelligence when the time comes.

"Parents do not have the right to demand to see what their children are being taught."

Others on here are saying that you do.

That would be my first port of call. Do it all in steps. Presumably you know the school your DD will be attending.
Find out what is what. Exactly. Not from randoms on the internet.

My DD is pre teen and I am terrified about the social contagion issue with all this gender ideology nonsense.

We are trying to counter it, and I hope she has her head screwed on but it is a huge concern.

I mean find out from the actual school itself.

Thank you. That's helpful. I've no intention of bombarding the school with any of this until I find out something has taken place that I deem inappropriate.

Branding anyone who doesn't agree with you as MRA won't help your cause. A lot of good points have been made by pp, but if you want to be 'terrified', fill ya boots.

it isn't just based on that article

But if you are terrified.
What homework have you done to educate yourself on the school your 4 year old child will be attending???

What conversations have you had with them if you are so terrified??

If i was terrified, i would know the ins and outs of it ,from the horses mouth, not random people with a possible agenda.

You are reading too much scaremongering.

It's much like the outrage re 5 year olds being taught about pornography when it was actually a conversation about good/bad photos and you shouldn't take photos of your privates. Blown massively out of proportion by the media

Yes. I am a naturally anxious person anyway which doesn't help. The colleges and universities are rife with it at the moment.

And although naturally anxious, I am actually terrified and I don't think it's over the top.

Kids are also being indoctrinated by their own parents as well as the education system.

Thank you. That's helpful. I've no intention of bombarding the school with any of this until I find out something has taken place that I deem inappropriate.

Waiting until they’ve taught her something you don’t agree with and then complaining afterwards is pretty useless, she’ll already have learned it by then. Far better to be open with the school and say ‘I’d like her removed from any conversations about gender’ OR ask in advance to see the RSHP curriculum.

I do think you are dramatising a bit but this is one of the reasons my child will be going to a catholic school

My dd ( I'm in England) was given lesson when she was 10 which I found out about weeks later, about sex change surgery.she needed reassuring fhY her body was perfect as it was. She was 10 . So puberty age. Just what kids navigating puberty need. More ideas there's something wrong with their healthy bodies.

What you can do op is scour the website for the equality policy me sure the protected characteristics are written correctly. Sex not gender. Gender reassignment not gender identity.

You can point this out to them in an email. They cant re write equality laws and protected characteristics how they feel they should be written. They need to correspond with actual legal protected characteristics.

Also look out for the alloys guidebce that tells teachers they cN trans kids without prenatal knowledge . Privide clothes for those who need them for social transition. Amd that ant girls objecting to sharing with boys are the ones to find some where ekse to change/pee.

I've no intention of bombarding the school with any of this until I find out something has taken place that I deem inappropriate.

You make no sense.
You are "terrified" for "your 4 year old", but won't speak to the school they will be attending until after the "terrifying" thing has taken place????

Surely you want to protect your child from the proposed "terrifying" thing if its going to happen, not after it has taken place and you deem it inappropriate.