To be worried about Rainbows

[justanotherguider]

As a guide leader and as a mother I find this worrying:

girlguiding.foleon.com/guiding-magazine/guiding-summer-2022/rainbow-girl

It really is.

At five I was convinced I was part horse. Thank goodness my mother didn't let me live in my "true" identity.

Jesus. So the mother was so worried about her so being seen in a dress that he has to become a girl.

poor poor child

Most likely homophobic parents who are wedded to stereotypes.
utterly vile.
and shame on girlguiding for encouraging This and letting boys into an all girls organisation.

Absolutely fucking awful. And the arrogance of the assumption that we all need training to understand.

My ds always had barbie and my little pony. Obsessed. We bought him the toys he asked for. We wondered if he might turn out to be gay in time. Doesn't matter either way. He was STILL A FUCKING BOY.

Now he's actually quite masculine. Whatever. Doesn't matter. STILL A BOY.

I am also worried. I have a DD in Brownies and I am always thinking about pulling her out, but she loves it. I have an advantage in that my mum is a guider in her unit, so anything at unit level I know about - she knows and shares my concerns and would tell me if there was a trans male at birth now identifying as female (hoping that's clear enough and on the right side of the talk guidelines) in the unit. But most parents of Rainbows, Brownies and Guides don't have that inside info and once DD gets older and starts wanting to do district activities I will lose that level of safeguarding.

Guiding are fully captured, they fought Katie Alcock in the courts over this and defended to the death the rights of a trans male at birth now identifying as female guide leader to share photos of themselves on public social media dressed in dominatrix leathers and brandishing guns. There is no hope for them.

Omg
I knew they were captured but they have really gone all in!
Dreadful

If 'Rainbow' changes their mind they'll be told to leave..

There’s a reason I’ve become a volunteer, and that’s to safeguard my daughters and friends children who attend the unit I’m attached to.

My little DD was quite shy in school, away from the boys (and my ds) she bloomed in the company of her Rainbows group.

Jesus fucking christ

I hope that by reading our story other parents will see how important it is for transgender girls to access the same spaces their friends do - they want to learn and play just like everyone else.

I can't quite articulate how much this pisses me off. I want my daughters, actual female daughters to have a safe space without penises in it. I am seriously considering pulling mine out of guides and they will not be going on any camps.

My boy wanted to be a Disney princess, so I bought him princess dresses and those daft kids high heels, he carried a handbag and put on lipstick, none of the above meant he was a girl, the label in the princess dress said age 6, it didn't say not suitable for willy owners.

There is nothing progressive about stereotypes and anyway.

Are there currently trans kids in your daughters group? Because if not, it seems a bit extreme to be pulling them out of a group they enjoy.

My DD was a dog for a year, but she has stopped barking now........ her children might not like it.

Is there no organisation who has not been sucked into this nonsense?

And when that little Rainbow, starts going through puberty and is still sleeping in the same space as other little girls, that's ok too?

As when one of the leaders is a trans woman, they can share sleeping and shower facilities with your daughters and you're not told, that's ok too?

I can't understand why any mum lets their daughters go to the girl guides. If everyone withdrew their daughters they would have to look at why!!

This organisation has totally lost its way on safeguarding.

Please google Monica Sulley and decide whether you want your daughter to be part of an organisation like this!

Also google Katie Alcock a former leader who was expelled from Girl Guiding as she was concerned about safeguarding.

Your daughters are not safe in this organisation, and I know there are a huge bunch of amazing and lovely volunteers who will shout me down. But sadly they are part of the problem by not standing up and being counted.

I seriously doubt that this child came to this realisation without parental input. And wtf are they setting up false choices? You don’t have to persuade or dissuade your child to identify with any characters, and the choice isn’t between being cruel and stopping your child playing with the ‘wrong’ toys or being trans. It’s perfectly possible to just let them play with whatever toys they want 🙄

I’m so sick of parents pretending they gave their child free choice when in reality they’re nudging them down a path of their choice. I still can’t decide if they do it because they’re actually uncomfortable with feminine boys or knowingly because they want to be special.

I have up when it started on about an 18 months old identifying more with the girl characters in stories

I have a 2.5 year old. He loves reading stories (well having them read to him). How the fuck would I know which characters he identifies more with?! Absolutely mad! At 2.5 years old, a full year older than the 18 month old Rainbow, my child is pointing at pictures and saying the words for duck, bus, car, man, ball, mummy, ladder, tree etc. He is absolutely not showing any signs at all at identifying more with any of those things

I don't believe that a 4 year old can be transgender.

I also find out baffling that it's socially unacceptable for a boy to wear a dress but it's suddenly socially acceptable to do so if he changes his name and grows long hair.

I withdraw my daughter due to the issues and safeguarding concerns linked with it.
I explained the reasons why and the leader did not disagree with me. They are too scared to say how they really feel in case they are asked to leave.

This is what gets to me too....the notion that we need "educating"....it's so rife these days, and so fucking patronising.

😡

withdrew that should read.

I'm a leader, I disagree with our policies but I can't say that under my real name as the opinion will have me removed and for 10+ years I have loved my team, the girls and all the opportunities. So far I haven't come across this situation so I am still remaining true to myself however when it arises, I will leave. And I'll be gutted.

The comments in this post have left me so angry. For those that read the full article, why are you so hateful? A little girl that knows who she is and parents who support her. God forbid! Unfortunately until you go through something like this with your own child you will never understand, that's why people are being educated on the subject. It's hard enough for young people transitioning so why not try understanding instead of spreading hate and fear.

Dreadful