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To wonder why people get long talon nails?

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Froglett10 · 19/07/2022 21:30

I'm fascinated by the super long, talon-like false nails. Especially the square shaped and the really pointy ones. I thought it would be a short lived statement trend but it's lasted for years now.

Curious about what people like about them? Why do you think they've been so enduring?

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Andromachehadabadday · 21/07/2022 06:21

I find the slavery conversation funny. Not because slavery is funny. You can find the discussion points funny, whilst also knowing it’s a serious issue.

on this thread there’s been vile comments and assumptions made about women who choose to have their nails very long. Things like dirty, vile, attention seeking etc.

The the discussion comes about nail salons themselves and the problem with MDS. Except it’s in incoherent argument that has nothing to do with nail colour or length or services the salon provides. But it is an opportunity to continue to to present that women who don’t care about their nails or only have ‘sensible French’ are morally superior to those that have long, colourful and bejewelled nails.

Trying to turn this into innately morally good or bad is laughable. As is the argument of it being bad for women and ‘we don’t make choices in a vacuum’, whilst believing their choice was made in a vacuum.

No one is suggesting anyone goes into any old salon. Or doesn’t research it. That’s wether it’s for an eyebrow wax, facial, ‘sensible French’ or 4 inch nails. That’s not a good idea for many reasons. If someone choose to use a salon when they know it’s using slave labour, that’s morally wrong. What their nails look like after doesn’t change that.

The lengths some posters (not you directly, I am talking about the thread in general) have gone to on here to try an assert they are better people because of their choices of nails, is laughable.

and, going, back to my earlier point. Why do you think so many posters think a nice French or just tidy nails makes you a better person? Why do they think that places that offer this service, must be automatically better? Anyone who thinks ‘oh these people seem to do more natural looking nails on the whole so can’t possibly be using slave labour’ are really showing their bigotry.

and it’s laughable. That doesn’t mean modern day slavery, itself, is laughable.

ShirleyPhallus · 21/07/2022 06:34

Andromachehadabadday · 21/07/2022 06:21

I find the slavery conversation funny. Not because slavery is funny. You can find the discussion points funny, whilst also knowing it’s a serious issue.

on this thread there’s been vile comments and assumptions made about women who choose to have their nails very long. Things like dirty, vile, attention seeking etc.

The the discussion comes about nail salons themselves and the problem with MDS. Except it’s in incoherent argument that has nothing to do with nail colour or length or services the salon provides. But it is an opportunity to continue to to present that women who don’t care about their nails or only have ‘sensible French’ are morally superior to those that have long, colourful and bejewelled nails.

Trying to turn this into innately morally good or bad is laughable. As is the argument of it being bad for women and ‘we don’t make choices in a vacuum’, whilst believing their choice was made in a vacuum.

No one is suggesting anyone goes into any old salon. Or doesn’t research it. That’s wether it’s for an eyebrow wax, facial, ‘sensible French’ or 4 inch nails. That’s not a good idea for many reasons. If someone choose to use a salon when they know it’s using slave labour, that’s morally wrong. What their nails look like after doesn’t change that.

The lengths some posters (not you directly, I am talking about the thread in general) have gone to on here to try an assert they are better people because of their choices of nails, is laughable.

and, going, back to my earlier point. Why do you think so many posters think a nice French or just tidy nails makes you a better person? Why do they think that places that offer this service, must be automatically better? Anyone who thinks ‘oh these people seem to do more natural looking nails on the whole so can’t possibly be using slave labour’ are really showing their bigotry.

and it’s laughable. That doesn’t mean modern day slavery, itself, is laughable.

I think you’ve missed the point really. I made the comment about having a “sensible French” manicure which is more a dig at MNers for never having anything more creative / interesting than other designs. I said that bougie little nail salons (like cowshed spa) don’t offer gels / acrylics, but the cheap nail bars on the high street which specialise in acrylics and gel are often the ones fronted by Vietnamese staff who could have been trafficked.

You’re getting hung up on the comment of “sensible French” and missing the very real point which is that those nail bars can be staffed by people as a result of people trafficking. Established bougie salons with “proper” recruitment practices are far less likely to have people trafficking issues.

Maireas · 21/07/2022 07:32

What's a bougie salon?

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 07:35

Maireas · 21/07/2022 07:32

What's a bougie salon?

A posh/luxurious place. Which (in my experience) will still do nails other than a ‘sensible French polish’ because they are a nail salon, and therefore offer various nail treatments to the customer’s taste.

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 07:36

But yeah, let’s pretend op was in fact out to campaign for more awareness of the mistreatment of trafficked people and that’s why she started this thread - not at all to sneer at those she sees as ‘beneath’ her but just to make sure everyone knows to research their salon/nail tech beforehand. Even though that’s blatantly untrue.

Maireas · 21/07/2022 07:37

Right. Does it mean snobbish?

ShirleyPhallus · 21/07/2022 08:07

Maireas · 21/07/2022 07:37

Right. Does it mean snobbish?

No, bougie means a bit fancy, overpriced and sometimes a bit pretentious. You could argue that those salons are overpriced compared to the cheap high street salons because they’re paying their staff appropriately and don’t encounter the people trafficking issue (as much, if at all) 🤷‍♀️

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2022 08:09

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 07:36

But yeah, let’s pretend op was in fact out to campaign for more awareness of the mistreatment of trafficked people and that’s why she started this thread - not at all to sneer at those she sees as ‘beneath’ her but just to make sure everyone knows to research their salon/nail tech beforehand. Even though that’s blatantly untrue.

I don't think anybody is pretending that; it's a side discussion which has developed from the OP's post.

Do you never have conversations which go off on a related tangent in real life?

Chesneyhawkes1 · 21/07/2022 08:09

I used to have acrylic nails, not super long but fairly long.

One day at work I caught my finger and my acrylic snapped halfway down my nail bed and so did my actual nail underneath.

The pain was immense. I was shocked at how much it hurt.

I've got gel nails these days, just long enough to get some cute designs done on them.

When I had my acrylics off my nail bed was paper thin and so sensitive.

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 08:12

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2022 08:09

I don't think anybody is pretending that; it's a side discussion which has developed from the OP's post.

Do you never have conversations which go off on a related tangent in real life?

I never have conversations in real life involving how other people wipe their bums - do you? I also never have someone come into a room and say ‘ooh I just don’t GET why people do this perfectly normal thing, why would they I just can’t understand?’ followed by them leaving the room so we can all scream about how chavvy and dirty it is.

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 08:13

But yes I’d be 100% behind a thread where people bring up awareness of how to find good salons (and other businesses) that don’t support trafficking and slavery - however that’s not what this is. I’m sure op would be perfectly able to understand someone with a nice sensible French polish regardless of where they got it.

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2022 08:21

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 08:12

I never have conversations in real life involving how other people wipe their bums - do you? I also never have someone come into a room and say ‘ooh I just don’t GET why people do this perfectly normal thing, why would they I just can’t understand?’ followed by them leaving the room so we can all scream about how chavvy and dirty it is.

I've had all manner of bizarre conversations, and potentially similar ones, yes!

But, my point was about you saying people were pretending the thread was posted for awareness when it clearly wasn't. You've now circled back to bum-wiping (which I wasn't referring to at all). For someone who never talks about it, you don't half keep banging on about it here! 🤷‍♀️

Binkybix · 21/07/2022 10:04

never have conversations in real life involving how other people wipe their bums - do you?

I definitely have had conversations like this with my friends (the bum wiping, not with nails) and that’s how I found out that some people wipe standing up and others sitting down. That really is a side bar!

I have no idea if acrylics are more likely to be used at dodgy nail salons or not - I don’t see why it would. I guess long obviously fake nails make it more obviously likely that someone goes to a salon to have them done, and therefore triggers the association in my mind with nail salons overall.

But it perfectly possible to have an opinion that something looks bad without judging the personality of the person with said style.

mydogsteppedonabee · 21/07/2022 10:49

They aren't for me.
I love having my nails done but nowhere near the length of the talon style.
I also don't get it when people get those ridiculous eyelashes.. they are like fans on peoples eyes.
Then there's the lip filler and cheek implants.
People are starting to all morph into the same look.
Whatever makes you happy, each to their own and all that but def not for me

entropynow · 21/07/2022 11:07

housemaus · 19/07/2022 21:44

I'm fascinated by the responses here. Do you all genuinely think nobody with long nails wipes their own arse, changes tampons, can get keys out of pockets, etc, and we are all just high maintenance weirdos who do literally no normal things for ourselves?

Do none of you have nails past the end of your fingertips, or what? Cos otherwise... it's only as unhygenic as if they were a millimetre or two past the end of your fingers. You just wash your hands and clean under your nails as you would anyway!

No, I don't have nails past(or even up to) my fingertips.
Spend a lot of time in the garden and scrub them regularly

Bunchymcbunchface · 21/07/2022 11:54

I have acrylic nails on
26 horses that I look after full time
a clean bum that I look after full time too

had acrylics on for 10 years now. They make my huge man hands look more feminine so I’m keeping them.

Kanaloa · 21/07/2022 12:14

NoWordForFluffy · 21/07/2022 08:21

I've had all manner of bizarre conversations, and potentially similar ones, yes!

But, my point was about you saying people were pretending the thread was posted for awareness when it clearly wasn't. You've now circled back to bum-wiping (which I wasn't referring to at all). For someone who never talks about it, you don't half keep banging on about it here! 🤷‍♀️

The reason I keep ‘banging on about it’ is that I dislike the sneery implications on this thread and the many others that someone making a different fashion choice to one you’d choose yourself is stupid and dirty, and that these things are linked with them being poor. It’s also often linked (as with other fashion statements that get these comments) to people from certain cultures/areas. I find it really gross. And the op’s never bother coming back - they know they don’t even need to stir up the nastiness, it’s all there ready to go.

Steelesauce · 21/07/2022 12:15

When my carers rock up to work with acrylics, they get told to take em off or go home without pay. Theyre a breeding ground for bacteria! Cqc wouldn't be too impressed seeing HCP with acrylics on. I do have them myself when I go on holiday though and remove them before going back to work. I use stick on ones for nights out so it's not that I'm against them, they are just an infection control nightmare!

Herejustforthisone · 21/07/2022 13:27

I have another question about them. Do they fuck the nails you have in real life?

Bunchymcbunchface · 21/07/2022 13:31

They haven’t with mine. A week or 2 without them (usually over Christmas time when I’m not going anywhere) and they’re fine.
I didn’t have any on over lockdown and hated my hands without them.

Soubriquet · 21/07/2022 14:22

Saw this and thought of this thread

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XSnoe · 21/07/2022 14:29

You can do things with long nails, you just adapt.

I know a nail artist who always has her nails done long, and she was into DIY at home.

tinfairyj · 21/07/2022 15:43

Unhygienic looking. I've never seen any that look nice.

OnaBegonia · 21/07/2022 19:03

@Steelesauce
Really? you can't just remove acrylics on the spot, you sound charming.

skybluee · 21/07/2022 19:47

I'm all for people doing what they want.

However, for myself, I don't like them. I want to improve my real nails and I've heard that they damage nails or they have to file away part of the surface of the nail so it's a big no.

I used to use nail oil and moisturisers and really look after them.
At the moment they're short but they're all the same length.

This thread has inspired me to grow them a little bit.

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