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To ask what you do for a living and how much you earn?

392 replies

Kallo3 · 19/07/2022 16:51

Just being nosey really, I feel like most of the women on mumsnet are really big earners. I need help managing my money a bit better I think.

OP posts:
Loics · 19/07/2022 17:54

It is sad that there is so much disbelief. I'll honestly tell people that my current role is a mixture of qualifications, experience, and luck. Luck in that the job that led to this one unexpectedly gave me a lot of knowledge of a very niche area that allowed me to progress upwards quicker than I would have, if at all, otherwise. My mum actually did similar, I don't come from a family of millionaires, we all work/ed for what we have.

Namechanger355 · 19/07/2022 17:55

Zone2NorthLondon · 19/07/2022 17:33

Out of interest why is women saying what they earn met with such derision or disbelief?
Naturally there will be a range of skills and salaries but it’s not beyond belief that some women can and do earn well.
My wage will can rise as I progress and get more senior

Agreed

really struggle with this - there really seems to be a view here that women can’t have earning power

Shock horror - women do work in traditionally male dominated sectors and they can earn a good salary

redbigbananafeet · 19/07/2022 17:56

MargeSimpson79 · 19/07/2022 17:19

Teaching assistant - a pittance. I think it’s about £9.57 an hour.

That is outrageous, you are invaluable. I'm in Scotland so the support roles are different but on behalf of teachers I than you and could not do my job with you and your colleagues x

redbigbananafeet · 19/07/2022 17:57

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 19/07/2022 17:23

WHY do people post these threads? WHY? The vast majority of people on them just make something up.

And it turns into a brag fest, and a race for who can be on the highest salary.

They become littered with posts saying 'I have a 3 university degrees from RG universities, + a masters, and a £1.3 million apartment in London,' and 'I am a big tattooed gobshite who swears like a navvy, and am as working class as they come, but I worked my way up and am on £770K a year and live in a million pound house that I paid for with cash' type posts...

So tedious and predictable. Confused

I don't think any of the above comments are anything like you've described

ShimmyYaYaYay · 19/07/2022 17:57

IT project coordinator £39k

QOD · 19/07/2022 17:57

sales £13.50 ph plus commission plus pretty good benefits.

Holidaydreamingagain · 19/07/2022 17:59

I don’t think people are lying. The salaries people are quoting sound perfect reasonable for the industries they are in. What’s more concerning is that peoples expectations of salaries are so low they don’t believe women can be high earners

nodtik · 19/07/2022 18:00

Headteacher, secondary school £102k

AteAllTheBourbons · 19/07/2022 18:00

I wish we could do an AMA with a London/Surrey mortgage broker (i.e. who sees salaries regularly) to quash the idea that big salaries are made up.

AteAllTheBourbons · 19/07/2022 18:00

I wish we could do an AMA with a London/Surrey mortgage broker (i.e. who sees salaries regularly) to quash the idea that big salaries are made up.

ClaraBeau · 19/07/2022 18:01

Senior academic 42k. Plus the odd couple of pennies from a book that I wrote a chapter in.

LilyMarshall · 19/07/2022 18:01

I wish id had this knowledge before choosing a public sector job. I had zero careers advice.

Justrealised · 19/07/2022 18:02

MoonKnight · 19/07/2022 17:07

Full time carer to my disabled child. £69.70 per week

Me too, 24 hrs 7 days a week every day of the year.

redbigbananafeet · 19/07/2022 18:02

Loics · 19/07/2022 17:44

Exec in education, a little over £100k with yearly pay rises. Occasional bonuses, but all staff get them, it's usually a percentage of your pay, and usually around Christmas time, if at all.

How many years were you a teacher?

pixie5121 · 19/07/2022 18:03

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 19/07/2022 17:23

WHY do people post these threads? WHY? The vast majority of people on them just make something up.

And it turns into a brag fest, and a race for who can be on the highest salary.

They become littered with posts saying 'I have a 3 university degrees from RG universities, + a masters, and a £1.3 million apartment in London,' and 'I am a big tattooed gobshite who swears like a navvy, and am as working class as they come, but I worked my way up and am on £770K a year and live in a million pound house that I paid for with cash' type posts...

So tedious and predictable. Confused

I find them quite motivational, tbh.

I graduated into the 2008 financial crisis and had an absolutely shit time for nearly a decade. I genuinely just started to feel like I could never make more than £25K, that all my academic achievements meant nothing, that there was no way out. It wasn't until I broke up with a long term partner and ended up flat sharing and meeting new people through that that I realised how accessible so many careers are if you understand how to sell yourself. I'm autistic and really just didn't get how to do that. The minute I got even a little bit of support, from friends and a disability advisor, I doubled my salary within six months by changing career. And a mean a really bare minimum level of support - having someone to read through my CV and cover letter and give me tips about what to mention in the interview. I'd never had even that ever before.

When everyone around you is in dead end jobs making shit money, it can be really hard to see how to move beyond that. I enjoy reading about what other people earn and what they do. I think we should talk about money, salaries and careers much more than we do. Keeping quiet about it results in entrenched privilege and people, especially minority groups, not aiming high because they don't think it's realistic.

Now I see that it was completely possible for me to have been on over 80K by the time I was 35. I'm intelligent and I have the skills and qualifications to back up that kind of salary. I just didn't think I could. People who grow up with wealth and privilege just expect to be paid well. People who grow up poor feel grateful to be even a bit richer and feel cheeky asking for even a small payrise. This keeps poor people 'in their place' and keeps entitled rich people in cushy jobs, earning excellent money for doing fck all.

Rant over :D

Thriwit · 19/07/2022 18:03

Senior scientist (Instrumentation specialist) in a pharma lab - £31k.

AteAllTheBourbons · 19/07/2022 18:04

LilyMarshall · 19/07/2022 18:01

I wish id had this knowledge before choosing a public sector job. I had zero careers advice.

For the folks who think people are lying because you don't see it in your circle, this is the ultimate result, I wish there was a way to improve transparency.

Weirdlynormal · 19/07/2022 18:05

AuntMargo · 19/07/2022 17:21

Isn't that the same as being a parent ?? Disabled or non disabled child

Don’t be so obtuse. What a wanky comment.

pixie5121 · 19/07/2022 18:06

Holidaydreamingagain · 19/07/2022 17:59

I don’t think people are lying. The salaries people are quoting sound perfect reasonable for the industries they are in. What’s more concerning is that peoples expectations of salaries are so low they don’t believe women can be high earners

This.

I spent my entire twenties being fed bullshit about how I couldn't expect to do much better. About how you need to work ridiculous hours with crazy pressure if you want to be paid well. It's all absolute crock designed to keep poor people, especially poor women, in their place.

It wasn't until I hit 30 that I realised just how many people are paid a shit ton of money for doing very, very little.

DameHelena · 19/07/2022 18:07

Book publishing freelancer. About £40k, slightly variable year on year. No paid hols/sick pay/pension/other perks, obviously.

MsPincher · 19/07/2022 18:08

WhatWouldPennyDo · 19/07/2022 17:49

I’m sure some people exaggerate but it’s always a real shame to see how much disbelief there is on threads like this about women earning so well.

I work in a global professional services firm. There are numerous women in that business earning over £100k p.a, running in to £1m plus at the top of the firm. Several PA’s are on over £70k. Our NQs earn north of £100k as soon as they qualify. We are by no means the highest paying business in our category. I get it might be an unfamiliar world to some but it is very much the norm to have high earners (including, shock horror, women) in big professional services firms like mine.

As for me, senior business support role, earning close to £200k p.a before bonus and benefits. Will probably cap out at c£250k, unless I broaden my remit and skill set.

Absolutely- I used to work in professional services and there are lots of women earning six figures (including me before I took a step back). It’s ridiculous that some people on mn think it’s only men that can earn well.

Tangled123 · 19/07/2022 18:09

@LilyMarshall Me too. I work in payroll so have an idea what people around me make. However, I also live in Northern Ireland and salaries are pretty low here. While most people on my payrolls earn more than me, none of them earn close to the larger numbers quoted on here.

(I earn £25k from my main job as assistant accountant, but I earn £6k more from my second job (also payroll/accounts).

Allthegoodusernamesareused · 19/07/2022 18:09

Public sector back office administration, shift work, no supervisory responsibilities, 20 years experience. Just shy of £30k

I have A levels and didn't go to university I drifted into this job, but it's very flexible around childcare, and the pension is so good I can never leave...

AnotherExpatKiwi · 19/07/2022 18:10

I earn around £36k as a self employed music teacher working in schools and at home. Around 30 hours a week for max 36 weeks a year.

25 years ago I had a £40k salary package working for an oil company based in London. Gave it up when I had first child due to PND. Had I stayed in that area of work I’d expect to be on six figures now. Glad I’m not doing that type of work now though!

AdInfinitum12 · 19/07/2022 18:10

Accountant, 40k, East Midlands.