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To ask what you do for a living and how much you earn?

392 replies

Kallo3 · 19/07/2022 16:51

Just being nosey really, I feel like most of the women on mumsnet are really big earners. I need help managing my money a bit better I think.

OP posts:
Holidaydreamingagain · 21/07/2022 07:51

I’m not even remotely suprised you earn that much, actually I would have thought it was more. What’s most suprising is people who don’t believe it and think it’s people lying. These threads are important precisely because they show the reality of salaries and hopefully can inspire people to know that as a women they can earn serious money

PoleFairy · 21/07/2022 07:55

Marketing exec at professional services firm £35.5k

thebear1 · 21/07/2022 08:32

Welfare role in Higher education, £32k a year before deductions for a 37 hour working week.

WillowTreeForest · 21/07/2022 11:02

Tellhimno · 20/07/2022 10:31

Not taking the piss - but you sound underpaid for a director? I assume you aren't board level?

Generally in pharma there are lots of directors. In some pharma companies they are senior individual contributors. In others they have a couple of reports. Hierarchy goes director, senior director/executive director, VP, SVP, board level. In some cases 5 management layers from the board. Despite that, it's a role that can be very competitive to get

Weirdlynormal · 21/07/2022 11:59

WillowTreeForest · 21/07/2022 11:02

Generally in pharma there are lots of directors. In some pharma companies they are senior individual contributors. In others they have a couple of reports. Hierarchy goes director, senior director/executive director, VP, SVP, board level. In some cases 5 management layers from the board. Despite that, it's a role that can be very competitive to get

To be honest Pharma, despite being some of the riches companies with some of the highest profit margins, with some of the best educated workforce, are some of the worst payers in my experience.

I work with some very senior people in pharma and they earn about a 1/3 of what other industries pay. I can never tell DrXXXX this, but it's true. Once you get beyond a certain level it's not the salary that matters, it's the LTIP's.

WillowTreeForest · 21/07/2022 12:04

Weirdlynormal · 21/07/2022 11:59

To be honest Pharma, despite being some of the riches companies with some of the highest profit margins, with some of the best educated workforce, are some of the worst payers in my experience.

I work with some very senior people in pharma and they earn about a 1/3 of what other industries pay. I can never tell DrXXXX this, but it's true. Once you get beyond a certain level it's not the salary that matters, it's the LTIP's.

I think that's the trouble, loads of people have PhDs so to set yourself apart can be challenging. I've also found there to be a lot of politics behind promotions, which means that relationships matter, which means that it enables prejudice more than a purely merit driven organisation. Would the poster have had to sacrifice as much to get to director level, if that were male? I think men have to sacrifice things to get to VP level though

Gwenhwyfar · 21/07/2022 12:17

"big professional services firms"

Does this mean accounting or some other professional service? Legal services for companies, business consulting? I'm curious about this extremely well paid sector.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/07/2022 12:21

Holidaydreamingagain · 19/07/2022 17:59

I don’t think people are lying. The salaries people are quoting sound perfect reasonable for the industries they are in. What’s more concerning is that peoples expectations of salaries are so low they don’t believe women can be high earners

It's not just that there are women out there who earn a lot of money, it's that women on MN earn quite a bit more than the average. It's very obvious from any thread discussing what to buy eg Style and Beauty. It would be difficult to be lying all the time consistently across different threads so I do believe the high earners
I think if you live in an area that's not so rich, it can be difficult to believe as it just doesn't chime with what you see around you.

Sellie555 · 21/07/2022 12:27

@Gwenhwyfar yes absolutely you’re right. Big professional firms like accounting, auditing, law, corporate real estate, management consulting etc

the firms make a lot of money (and therefore pay well) cos they charge other big companies mega bucks for those services

DillonPanthersTexas · 21/07/2022 13:29

This sounds interesting...

What does your job entail

My degree was petroleum engineering with a master's in offshore engineering. Basically I deal with the design, construction and installation of structures on the seabed or surface when developing an oil field although more recently I have been working on renewables (wind turbines).

xogossipgirlxo · 21/07/2022 15:00

Mamai90 · 19/07/2022 23:58

When you read about some of the inflated wages on here, huge sums of money and then you see what nurses get paid it's disgraceful.

My thoughts exactly... At the end of day we need nurses more than business consultants. Very upsetting.

Grumpsy · 21/07/2022 15:41

Work2live · 20/07/2022 15:32

I find it bizarre that so many people seem to be ‘against’ these types of threads. If you think they’re bullshit, then take them with a pinch of salt. The vast majority of jobs and salaries quoted on this thread don’t seem like bullshit to me.

As women we should be talking about salary more. The lack of discussion is why women are still earning less than men in 2022. The lack of career guidance or knowledge is why many women don’t know about the opportunities available to them. Shitty employers who offer no flexibility are the reason why so many womens’ careers have to take a back seat if they decide to have kids.

And hey, if you don’t want to be a high earner that’s absolutely your prerogative! Not everyone wants to be career focused, or earn six figures, and there’s nothing wrong with that at all. But it doesn’t give you the right to call bullshit on the thousands of women who are out there earning six figures.

Completely this. Women should be talking about salary more. I left my last role after finding out I was paid significantly less than men at the same grade.

Now 72k, plus 10-15% bonus, PMI and good pension contributions from my employer. Contracts (not a lawyer)

Sellie555 · 21/07/2022 16:30

xogossipgirlxo · 21/07/2022 15:00

My thoughts exactly... At the end of day we need nurses more than business consultants. Very upsetting.

unfortunately business consultants etc are high value to private companies because they make the company more money

however, overall In society, of course the nurses, teacher roles etc are more important overall to society. The Gov needs to get a grip on those important roles and pay properly

PhotoDad · 21/07/2022 16:33

Sellie555 · 21/07/2022 16:30

unfortunately business consultants etc are high value to private companies because they make the company more money

however, overall In society, of course the nurses, teacher roles etc are more important overall to society. The Gov needs to get a grip on those important roles and pay properly

I'm a teacher so I'd be very happy with higher pay, but you also have to remember that there are a LOT of teachers and nurses out there, so decent pay for each isn't an easy thing.

Weirdlynormal · 21/07/2022 17:01

DillonPanthersTexas · 21/07/2022 13:29

This sounds interesting...

What does your job entail

My degree was petroleum engineering with a master's in offshore engineering. Basically I deal with the design, construction and installation of structures on the seabed or surface when developing an oil field although more recently I have been working on renewables (wind turbines).

@DillonPanthersTexas are you US based? … is the clue in the name 😁

my BIL is in the same industry and struggling to get back to the U.K. - Florida based right now.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/07/2022 18:09

Sellie555 · 21/07/2022 12:27

@Gwenhwyfar yes absolutely you’re right. Big professional firms like accounting, auditing, law, corporate real estate, management consulting etc

the firms make a lot of money (and therefore pay well) cos they charge other big companies mega bucks for those services

Thanks. It's a totally unknown world to me.

Gwenhwyfar · 21/07/2022 18:19

"There probably is quite a widespread range of jobs on this site, this thread is proving that. People in all different industries and sectors. Yet some on here think most of us are extremely well paid. That's just not going to be true. Some will be sure, but not the majority."

You obviously don't pay attention to other topics if you don't think well off people are over-represented on this site. Just have a look at Style and Beauty and see which brands and shops are recommended, how you to have to specify that 'you have a budget' otherwise you'll get suggestions for dresses that cost hundreds and bags that cost thousands. And on the health boards, a lot of 'go private' and all the questions about private schools.
The average on MN isn't the average in real life.

Connie2468 · 21/07/2022 18:22

Nanny £34k

I am qualified as an early years teacher but nannying is much easier and more pleasant...

FelicityFlops · 21/07/2022 18:38

As little as I can get away with for 150k + but I am a freelancer with 30+ years' experience.

TruthHertz · 21/07/2022 18:41

Cement truck driver - £40k plus bonuses.

I could've made much more had I stayed in Sales but I love having almost zero stress. I know 99% of the places I visit and spend most of the day cruising to Spotify/ebooks, chatting on hands free, or drinking coffee and having some banter whilst being loaded.

To earn £40k-ish in an office I'd have to probs manage people or at least project a 'professional image'.

StupidUsernameUnavailable · 21/07/2022 18:42

Public sector administration supervisor. 25 hrs a week. 16k.

Absolute bollocks money for the shit I have to put up with!!

StupidUsernameUnavailable · 21/07/2022 18:43

Should also add DH is on 45hr week for 29k. In SE too. Doesn't go far!!

Skinterior · 21/07/2022 19:04

Manufacturing / engineering - around 50k with bonus, perks add another 5k

MacaroniBaloney · 21/07/2022 19:21

Operations Manager 60k.

North west based so that goes far.

Wife2b · 21/07/2022 19:27

Social worker
£41 per hour
Come out with £42k after deductions

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