Friends didn't "tip"....bit tight?

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Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

AtwilightRebellion Give Mummy back her iPad, okay?

Why though?

Not everyone can afford to tip. And it should never be expected. They are doing a job and being paid for that job. If a customer gives a tip it should be gratefully received but never expected.

And yes I've worked in bars and restaurants.

And if I choose not to tip and a friend judged me for it well I wouldn't lose much sleep over losing someone who thought they can judge how I spend my money. Money is tight and going out is a luxury and I might not be able to afford to pay any more.

You don't want to tip.

EEK.

Some find it unpalatable. As long as I don't have to dine with you we are ok.

But you really present as tight. It isn't attractive.

If you feel better. Ok, its been handed back 🙄

But some of you are utter tight arses.

Make peace with it.

I think its fine for them not to tip. What is not fine is for them to have handed the tip over to the waiter unless they clarified it was from you two.

Also if there are 4 of you what happed to the 4th persons tip?

Good lord..... as you people keep quoting me.

Great for you. Despite the fact you worked in bars and restaurants. (sure you did)

You clearly don't care much, if you did you would understand servers rely on their tips.

A bloody pound or two.

You all bore me with your meanness.

If four of y'all went out,
Then two of you were really cheap
Cause only two of you bothered to tip

"Good lord..... as you people keep quoting me.

Great for you. Despite the fact you worked in bars and restaurants. (sure you did)

You clearly don't care much, if you did you would understand servers rely on their tips.

A bloody pound or two.

You all bore me with your meanness"

Stop being so judgemental. Money is tight. Tips are optional and should only be for when someone has given exceptional service. Certainly not expected.

And yes have worked in bars and restaurants. Most tips were pooled, to ensure all got a fair share. And in less honest places, any shortfall in the till was taken out the tips. Tips don't always end up where you think they will.

Some are happy to tip the waiting staff as they are poorly paid but often so are some of the kitchen staff. The kp's etc but they are mostly overlooked.

I also worked for a restaurant (but in the office) who pulled tips and taxed them and paid them twice per year so the staff had a large amount to go on holiday etc. the staff there earned a very good wage before tips. Not all restaurants pay rubbish wages, but sadly most do. But expecting tips isn't the answer. It makes matters worse not better.

Yes its tight and no restaurants don't always keep part of the tips. So if you don't tip for this reason it's just an excuse really.

servers rely on their tips

Oh, that's your logic?

In the UK they don't. There are many servers in this thread, former servers (like myself) and friends of servers who have stated that tipping is not expected.

I don't care that I seem unattractive to you, or any other personal insult you can throw, why would I? I am indeed at peace with my decision, and in my circles good manners involves being a thoughtful, grateful, pleasant customer.

I haven't been to some places where I can afford the cost of the food but an added 12 per cent service makes the overall cost too much. I find tipping difficult...in many respects I would prefer a flat rate because the cost of the tip factors into my menu choices.

Tight for you.

Not for me.

I tip.

I am not consumed by tightfistedness.

It's tight. Really tight.

"Tight for you.

Not for me.

I tip.

I am not consumed by tightfistedness."

Just judgmental - a far from lively quality.

I'm not tight. Not being able to afford a tip every time does not equal tight. Maybe you should walk a mile is someone else's shoes before throwing out labels that im sure you think are cutting.

But don't think tipping is something that should be expected. It's optional. Great, you tip. It doesn't make you morally superior, as your comments show. If you had mediocre service would you still tip? Do you leave a tip for the kitchen staff as well?

I haven't said I don't - just that it's not automatic. Great service would get a tip if I can afford it. Ok service wouldn't.

Totally agree!

When I worked in restaurants I would rather have served a nice customer who was polite but didn't leave a tip than some of the arseholes who would speak to you like shit but thought as they left a tip their behaviour was ok.

ATwitlightRebellion your points are beyond ridiculous, we'll never agree. You keep shelling out your 'small tokens' and I'll keep doing what I do. Happy in the knowledge that we wouldn't be in the same circles at all.

For those above who bang on about decent wages are said icky people and wouldn't be part of my circle.

oh nooooo! I was really hoping to be in your circle so I can use words like icky and cry about issues that don’t affect me. I’m gonna lose sleep after that now

I waitressed for 4 years and I don’t tip

As an aside, the sweet old men who pressed £1 into my hand meant more than any other customer when I waitressed because the gesture is so sweet. They aren’t supposed to know that they ‘should’ (not that I personally think they should) tip more, they liked to make us feel good and I think that attitude is just so delightful and so rare

I was a waitress for many years. I don't tip.

I worked at a couple of places that kept your tips and a few that forced you to declare them for tax purposes.

Some find it unpalatable. As long as I don't have to dine with you we are ok.

I think you’re labouring under the misapprehension that people here want to go to dinner with you @AtwilightRebellion
I could NEVER go to dinner with some weirdo who scrutinises they coins I put down and declares “Oh golly icky eeks, I
just cannot be your friend now” <throws back of hand to forehead and swoons>.
ifni go out with friends we are too busy enjoying ourselves to check what change we all have. Sorry that isn’t the case for you.

But you really present as tight. It isn't attractive.

Are you trying to shag your friends? Why do people need to be attractive to their mates?!

You don't understand there's attraction beyond and in addition to sexual attraction?

Ugly Bonnet

Gosh, aren't you the argumentative one my dear? Straight out of an Austen indeed...

Well you clearly didn't work in a very busy restaurant in central London where you worked non stop from 5 till 1 am most shifts and yes I often cleared 80-100 pounds in tips on my busy shifts on top of the measly wage. So I woul dbe selling 1000 worth of food on a shift like that and that is a lit of work and I can tell you I was charming and helpful and yes even like that with the odd miserable customer and even those people I predicted would not tip.

Yes it funded my entire degree including my tuition fees. I had access to no loans. I was totally dependent on my tips to survive for those years in college.
I am not American but I an see you are finding that hard to accept- spent many years there though and I can tell you they will very much show their contempt if you leave even 15% on a check or ill as you would say in England...

Once again thanks to the non-misers of London who supported this loan denied student through her degree. Now in a professional well paid career I make damned sure I tip well when I eat out- in fact I recently returned to the place in London I worked, and left a good fat American plus style tip, remembering how much those tips meant to me when I was struggling to juggle a full-time degree around 20-24 hours waitressing a week back then. Thank God not everyone sticks to their handy penny-saving miserly principles in this world Ugly Bonnet.

I cannot even imagine what kind of waitress you were UglyBonnet that you waitressed for 4 years and now you don't tip- honestly that is messed up or you just are not speaking the truth because people who have been servers and waited tables in a place like the UK or US where people do tend to tip- they all tip well. Some serious misanthropy driving you otherwise...I am so sorry Ugly Bonnet.

I waitressed for 5 years in a busy touristy pub as a student. I don’t tip unless it’s for excellent service.

Posters who say they’d pay a friend’s share of a tip if they didn’t would annoy me- it’s imposing your moral values on someone else and implying you’re better than them (from the tone of the posts anyway).