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Friends didn't "tip"....bit tight?

592 replies

tvsavec · 18/07/2022 15:39

Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

OP posts:
MinnieMountain · 18/07/2022 16:23

I see tipping as a reward for excellent service. The expectation to do it automatically annoys me. As PP have said, there are plenty of service industries that we never tip.

Harridance · 18/07/2022 16:24

What other service industries

LocalHobo · 18/07/2022 16:26

i always tip for good experience in a restaurant but what particularly gets me about your scenario, is that Friend 3 was the one to hand the tip over, therefore giving the impression THEY had donated the money. CF indeed.

WhenISnappedAndFarted · 18/07/2022 16:27

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:03

My husband manages restaurants, all staff keep 100% of their tips, even the kitchen receive a fair share.

I worked I. Restaurants when I was younger, also kept 100% of my tips.

Its a misconception that they majority of staff get their tips taken from them.

The only deduction is the tax the staff pay.

How do they get to keep 100% but kitchen staff also receive a fair share?

IncompleteSenten · 18/07/2022 16:27

I don't think people should have to tip but it was cheeky of them to take money others gave and hand it over like they'd given the server a couple of quid!

FrancescaContini · 18/07/2022 16:27

Yes, really tight. Very embarrassing.

Felixsmama · 18/07/2022 16:29

You don't have to tip it's the not the USA people make a wage here.

IncompleteSenten · 18/07/2022 16:29

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:03

My husband manages restaurants, all staff keep 100% of their tips, even the kitchen receive a fair share.

I worked I. Restaurants when I was younger, also kept 100% of my tips.

Its a misconception that they majority of staff get their tips taken from them.

The only deduction is the tax the staff pay.

If all staff keep 100% of their tips, how do kitchen staff get any? Are people tipping the kitchen staff?

Classicblunder · 18/07/2022 16:30

Harridance · 18/07/2022 16:24

What other service industries

Off the top of my head, car/bike repair places, shops (even when they have guided you through a complicated purchase), hotel receptionist, estate agents, delivery drivers (except for food), I am sure there are more..

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 16:31

In the UK, most people tip because they are embarrassed and it is supposedly the "done thing".

I don't tip because I earn at least the same or less than the waiting staff. In the past when I went to tip, friends told me off!

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:32

@WhenISnappedAndFarted the kitchen staff are ‘tipped out’ buy the waiting on team, it was 20p for every pound when I worked in restaurants.

The kitchen staff receive a smaller percentage as their wages are often a little higher.

The tips have never been taken as ‘takings’ anywhere I have worked (or my husband).

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 16:33

In OP's scenario it was a bit cheeky for the non-tipper to give them the £4, but they weren't tight to not tip.

AryaStarkWolf · 18/07/2022 16:33

Yep it's tight and I would judge them, I'd probably have thrown in a couple more pounds to try and make up for the shitty over all tip

stratforduponavon · 18/07/2022 16:34

I am going to the States and really not looking forward to the tipping element. Some places have now taken to adding 20% automatically and then looking for an additional tip to be left in cash for 'exceptional' service.

That the exchange rate £ to dollar means I will probably be bankrupt when I arrive back home!

rahjama · 18/07/2022 16:35

I think tipping is weird and I don't do it. I think a service charge is cheeky as well.

To me it's like tipping for someone to scan your items in the supermarket. They get paid a wage? There's no need.

User639921 · 18/07/2022 16:36

I never tip

LadyKenya · 18/07/2022 16:36

It is up to them if they wish to tip or not. They have their reasons, that is enough.

youwouldthink · 18/07/2022 16:36

DD worked in a gastro-pub last summer. All tips were split pro rata for the number of hours worked. It included all kitchen staff too.
I think your friends were tight tbh

JellyBellyNelly · 18/07/2022 16:36

tvsavec · 18/07/2022 15:39

Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

What about the other person? Didn’t they tip?

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 16:38

I think tipping is weird

It is weird isn't it! Like a throwback to rich people at banquets, throwing scraps to the 'peasants' who served them.

Looneytune253 · 18/07/2022 16:38

Pippa12 · 18/07/2022 16:03

My husband manages restaurants, all staff keep 100% of their tips, even the kitchen receive a fair share.

I worked I. Restaurants when I was younger, also kept 100% of my tips.

Its a misconception that they majority of staff get their tips taken from them.

The only deduction is the tax the staff pay.

How can both those statements be true? How can the staff member keep their tips but also the kitchen get a share? That makes no sense at all

Harridance · 18/07/2022 16:40

Classic blunder, the services you mentioned aren't as attentive and personal as someone waiting on your table, bringing food and drink to you, and don't estate agents put on their own 'tip' through commission?

AngelinaFibres · 18/07/2022 16:40

Hoardasurass · 18/07/2022 15:57

I don't tip because (unless the law has changed) restaurants can and do class tips as part of the staff wages and/take a cut which to me is wrong.
By classing tips as wages restaurants can basically pay below minimum wage as if you work 10 hours at nmw you should get about £90 before tax national insurance etc and if your share of the tips is £10 instead of the restaurant paying you £90 + £10 tips so £100 they can legally only give you the £90.
This has been common practice in the restaurant industry for decades and includes the added service charge and is why I won't tip

I always ask the waiting staff if the tips go directly to them. If they say yes ,then I leave a tip.

ThreeLittleDots · 18/07/2022 16:43

In the hotel I worked in, all tips were given to management to be shared out equally amongst the staff, including reception, cleaners, kitchen staff and waiting staff.

100% of the tips are given to the staff because the management don't take it to fund their wage (which I think may be illegal?) So the tips are always on the top of the regular wage, which is currently pretty good in the UK due to staff shortages.

I live near St Ives, kitchen porters are being offered up to £12 per hour and waiting staff will earn up to £20 per hour after tips.

smithsinarazz · 18/07/2022 16:45

It's two quid! If you can afford to go out for a meal, you can afford a tip. Yes, it's tight.