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Friends didn't "tip"....bit tight?

592 replies

tvsavec · 18/07/2022 15:39

Me and three friends went to a little family run Greek restaurant.
The bill came to around £80 for four of us.
At the end of the meal
Friend 1 put £2 on the table and I also put £2
Friend 3 said "is that for a tip"
We said yeah.....she shouts for the waiter and hands him the £4 and says thanks
They didn't bother to put a couple of pound in each

Aibu to think it's a bit tight?

OP posts:
WhereYouLeftIt · 20/07/2022 11:46

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/07/2022 11:11

Flutterbybudget, you sound absolutely graceless. I hope your dad didn't see that.

Probably best that you wave the note around so that everybody can see you are a Good Person. Better still, see if you can get one of those giant notes so that people can see exactly who is giving the Worthy Tip!

Not graceless at all! You want to be sure that the waitress who served you is the one that picks up the tip, not somebody else. If the waitress knows it's there, she'll pick it up as she clears the table.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/07/2022 11:58

Flutterby, I tip for excellent service not for people doing their jobs; they're supposed to do those, just like everybody else does.
I don't give 'shrapnel' but it's not something you'd need to concern yourself with because your attitude, from what you've posted, is awful.

WhereYouLeftIt, I've never seen waiting staff who didn't serve, not coming up with the card machine. Plenty of opportunity then to give a tip if you want to do that. I wouldn't leave money on the table ever, if I give money to somebody, I hand it to them - in person.

00100001 · 20/07/2022 12:08

Flutterbybudget · 20/07/2022 00:34

I can’t remember going anywhere to eat, even a basic cafe and not leaving a tip. If I was with people who didn’t leave one, I’d make up their “share”. My (rather elderly) dad hands over a £1;coin, pressing it into the hand of the waitress as if she’s going to be ecstatic about it 😂 I just make sure that she’s seen the note I’ve left on the table before we leave .

You leave a £5/£10 tip for a cup of coffee??
And then make sure to point it out to the waiting staff, in order to do what ..make your dad feel bad?

Merryclaire · 20/07/2022 13:01

Flutterbybudget · 20/07/2022 00:34

I can’t remember going anywhere to eat, even a basic cafe and not leaving a tip. If I was with people who didn’t leave one, I’d make up their “share”. My (rather elderly) dad hands over a £1;coin, pressing it into the hand of the waitress as if she’s going to be ecstatic about it 😂 I just make sure that she’s seen the note I’ve left on the table before we leave .

I never used to mind when an elderly person just gave me a pound or 50p, or even nothing. I assumed they were on a tight pension.

Big parties not leaving a tip, however, would annoy me as they were always a lot of extra work and you were more reliant on them leaving a tip as they took up a large portion of the restaurant seating and generally made a lot of mess.

80sMum · 20/07/2022 16:27

I would prefer it if tipping were stopped altogether, to be honest. The price quoted on the menu should be the price that you actually pay, without any faffing about with tips.

Service charges irritate me too. The cost of serving the food should be included in the price of each dish on the menu, not added on at the end.

I think it's mostly only in restaurants where tipping still takes place now.

When I was growing up in th 1960s it was more commonplace to tip. My parents used to tip the coalman, the dustman, the baker, the hairdresser and the postman. We never went to restaurants, as we were too poor for such luxuries, but I'm sure if we had they would have tipped the waiter too.

AtwilightRebellion · 20/07/2022 16:38

Ugh. Of course any decent person tips.

So many icky people on this thread.

Non-tippers (if after receiving good service) make me think they just aren't people worth knowing.

For those above who bang on about decent wages are said icky people and wouldn't be part of my circle.

Tightness as illustrated in some of these comments makes my skin crawl.

80sMum · 20/07/2022 16:39

Flutterbybudget · 20/07/2022 00:34

I can’t remember going anywhere to eat, even a basic cafe and not leaving a tip. If I was with people who didn’t leave one, I’d make up their “share”. My (rather elderly) dad hands over a £1;coin, pressing it into the hand of the waitress as if she’s going to be ecstatic about it 😂 I just make sure that she’s seen the note I’ve left on the table before we leave .

Do you also tip the checkout staff every time you go to the supermarket? What about the shelf stackers? How about the Amazon delivery driver? The Tesco delivery driver? The pizza delivery driver etc? Or are they somehow less deserving?

And what is wrong with being given £1? I think it was very kind of your dad to give £1 to someone, when he didn't actually have to give anything at all. A tip is a gift, not an obligation (at least, it is in the UK anyway. Thank God we're not like the USA in that respect!!)

ThreeLittleDots · 20/07/2022 16:40

Of course any decent person tips

Please explain why.

CousinGregg · 20/07/2022 16:44

All those saying they never tip are tight and have never been wait staff.

Swizandswap · 20/07/2022 16:48

AtwilightRebellion · 20/07/2022 16:38

Ugh. Of course any decent person tips.

So many icky people on this thread.

Non-tippers (if after receiving good service) make me think they just aren't people worth knowing.

For those above who bang on about decent wages are said icky people and wouldn't be part of my circle.

Tightness as illustrated in some of these comments makes my skin crawl.

Utter faux outrage 😂
I'm pretty sure most on this thread would be very pleased not be part of your circle. Talk about over reaction.

ThreeLittleDots · 20/07/2022 16:49

All those saying they never tip are tight and have never been wait staff

Incorrect

00100001 · 20/07/2022 16:50

CousinGregg · 20/07/2022 16:44

All those saying they never tip are tight and have never been wait staff.

Nonsense.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 20/07/2022 17:46

Swizandswap · 20/07/2022 16:48

Utter faux outrage 😂
I'm pretty sure most on this thread would be very pleased not be part of your circle. Talk about over reaction.

Absolutely. I'm delighted not to have that poster as an acquaintance. It would run about shouting "icky, icky", everywhere. Just imagine... yikes!

Kite22 · 20/07/2022 17:55

CousinGregg · 20/07/2022 16:44

All those saying they never tip are tight and have never been wait staff.

Nonsense.

Another completely made up "fact"

SofiaSoFar · 20/07/2022 17:59

MintJulia · 18/07/2022 16:48

I don't tip but if I enjoy a meal, I go back and take my friends and family there, which is worth much more.

Not to the staff it's not.

Kite22 · 20/07/2022 18:01

Agree with both of @80sMum 's posts on this page.

Tipping was more of a 'thing' before the NMW was introduced.
Now, I would support any campaign to get the NMW increased, and we can have another entirely separate thread about whether it is / isn't enough to do what it set out to do, but the theory is that no-one in the UK should need to rely on bountiful customers pressing a coin into their hand or waving a note around as a pp likes to do.
The point still stands that waiting one of many, many, many jobs where people are paid a minimum wage. No-one has yet justified why this one particular role should "expect" other people to give them cash for doing their job, whilst all the other folk on minimum wage don't get customers / clients / patients / service uses giving them extra cash.
I acknowledge lots of waitresses who have commented on this thread say there is no expectation - this definitely seems to come from those who feel embarrassed not to tip, rather than those who might, or might not receive a tip.

ThreeLittleDots · 20/07/2022 18:07

Not to the staff it's not

This sounds grabby. Repeat custom and spreading the word is worth thousands per year to a business. It's worth more than an individual server's tips, and also means the restaurant is more solvent.

EV117 · 20/07/2022 18:10

Not to the staff it's not.

My friend has just lost her job waitressing in a pub because it’s had to shut. If enough people don’t go they don’t get enough money to keep running - so she’d probably disagree.

Sweatingmytiitsoff · 20/07/2022 18:12

Kite22 · 20/07/2022 18:01

Agree with both of @80sMum 's posts on this page.

Tipping was more of a 'thing' before the NMW was introduced.
Now, I would support any campaign to get the NMW increased, and we can have another entirely separate thread about whether it is / isn't enough to do what it set out to do, but the theory is that no-one in the UK should need to rely on bountiful customers pressing a coin into their hand or waving a note around as a pp likes to do.
The point still stands that waiting one of many, many, many jobs where people are paid a minimum wage. No-one has yet justified why this one particular role should "expect" other people to give them cash for doing their job, whilst all the other folk on minimum wage don't get customers / clients / patients / service uses giving them extra cash.
I acknowledge lots of waitresses who have commented on this thread say there is no expectation - this definitely seems to come from those who feel embarrassed not to tip, rather than those who might, or might not receive a tip.

I think my understanding from some people's views on tipping... the expectations come from assuming peoples finances. How can anyone lack so much awareness that they are saying if you can afford to dine out../or you shouldn't be in that particular place!

If you don't tip. It's bizarre and bad manners.

EV117 · 20/07/2022 18:21

I think my understanding from some people's views on tipping... the expectations come from assuming peoples finances. How can anyone lack so much awareness that they are saying if you can afford to dine out../or you shouldn't be in that particular place!

That’s one of the strange notions on here - the other one was that a tip is worth a lot more than someone passing on good reviews. Great tactics for keeping a struggling hospitality industry afloat…

AtwilightRebellion · 20/07/2022 18:30

Swizandswap · 20/07/2022 16:48

Utter faux outrage 😂
I'm pretty sure most on this thread would be very pleased not be part of your circle. Talk about over reaction.

Not all my love.

I literally couldn't be in a circle of friends at a nice dinner that didn't want to tip.

Ofc it could happen. I would tip on their behalf and not dine with them again.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 20/07/2022 18:33

I don't think I could be friends with someone who screeches "icky" like an ill-mannered toddler.

AtwilightRebellion · 20/07/2022 18:37

ThreeLittleDots · 20/07/2022 16:40

Of course any decent person tips

Please explain why.

I cannot to someone like you. It isn't faux outrage.

You don't want to tip.

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe trust me, we could never be friends. I loathe tight people who begrudge servers a small token. Your response above is silly though, I wouldn't run around... I simply would find you crass.

AtwilightRebellion · 20/07/2022 18:40

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 20/07/2022 18:33

I don't think I could be friends with someone who screeches "icky" like an ill-mannered toddler.

Don't be a dafty. This is an online forum. Nobody screeched.

Icky is a descriptor. In real life we have manners, hence we tip.

ThreeLittleDots · 20/07/2022 18:43

I cannot to someone like you

Why? Because there is no logic to it, or because I couldn't possibly understand, darling