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Don’t want to “make friends” with neighbour’s dog…

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 18:58

NC for this. Sorry it's long!

Small backstory: Neighbour has a yappy dog that never stops, it comes right up to the fence in our back garden and barks incessantly whenever any of us go into the garden. It also barks at passers by on the street - it literally follows them along the fence yapping incessantly as they walk down the street. Neighbour does very little to address this - the occasion half hearted “stop that (name of dog)”, but it doesn’t listen to her and she doesn’t physically remove it. Last year I had a word with the neighbour about this through the fence - the barking was so bad it was upsetting my then newborn aged baby as we sat in the garden. She argued back with me and was generally unpleasant, so I threatened to report her if it didn’t stop. This was around 12 months ago and I’ve had no interactions with her since. The dog has done its usual nuisance barking at the fence when we’ve been out in the garden but I’ve largely tried to ignore it, and now that DD is a bit older she isn’t as startled or bothered by it. So we just largely ignore now.

Today I took DD (now 15 months) out in the garden to play. I sat on the grass relaxing whilst she played. Yappy dog approached the fence as per usual, but we were far enough away from the fence that I could mostly tune it out and just focus on playing with DD. DD didn’t seem remotely bothered by it either. I was then aware of neighbour approaching the fence and heard her say “oh are you saying hello (dogs name)?” Dog continued to incessantly yap. I ignored and continued to play with DD.

Next thing I heard “excuse me can I talk to you?“ through the fence. The fence is too high to see over it, and you can just about make out a person through the slats but I couldn’t really see her. I said “sorry, do you mean me?” (Not really able to see anyone at this point, just a shadow through the fence, and I was also sat a good few feet away from the fence. She said “yes”. I said “erm, yeah I suppose, I can’t see you but I can hear you”. She said “I’m sorry my dog barks and annoys you”. I replied “that’s ok” and then continued to engage with DD who was toddling around (so my attention was more focussed on her and I honestly didn’t want to have any interaction with anyone else at that point). I was hoping this would end the conversation. She continued: “if you made friends with her, she wouldn’t bark at you”. I just again decided to give a one word answer in the hope she would disengage from me as all I wanted to do was relax and play with DD. I replied again “right, ok”. She then continued… “if you made friends with her she wouldn’t bark and then you wouldn’t complain, would you”.

At this point I got irritated as she was pushing an unwanted conversation and also implying I had “complained” when I’d had one interaction with her about this a whole year ago where I’d threatened to complain but not followed that through, and also not mentioned the dog to her since.

I replied: “I just want to enjoy my garden with my DD. I don’t want to have to make friends with a dog through the fence. If your dog is barking constantly it’s because you aren’t training her properly, and that’s up to you to address. It’s not down to other people to make friends with your dog”.

It was more than I wanted to invest in the interaction but to be honest she had annoyed me by that point.

She then said, randomly, “how old is your daughter now?” I replied with her age. In between I was playing with DD and interacting with her, hoping neighbour would get the hint that I didn’t want to engage with her. She then said “what’s her name?” I replied with her name. Just one word answers to try to end it. She then said “ok. I just thought we could be friends that’s all”. Then she (presumably) walked off back to her house (like I say, limited visibility through the fence).

The whole interaction was just so random. Firstly I hadn’t commented on her dog, I was minding my own business and playing with DD. Also a whole year has passed since our last interaction so why approach me now? It would have made sense if I’d complained there and then about the dog, but I’d said nothing. I was just ignoring it as I usually do.

If it’s relevant this isn’t a next door neighbour as such. It’s hard to explain but we are a detached house and her back garden and mine back share a boundary fence. Our houses are nowhere near each other and are actually on separate streets. I am friends with my next door neighbour, by choice, who is lovely. I have no desire to be friends with this other neighbour or her dog.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog? When I'm in my garden I just want to relax and enjoy my garden and my daughter. Is this reasonable? Also, should random people be expected to befriend dogs, or is the onus on the owners to stop the barking regardless?

Any thoughts welcomed.

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:40

And ... I won't be enjoying the yelping all summer as we'll be on holiday for 4 weeks of it. 😎 But thanks for your concern.

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Autumndays123 · 16/07/2022 20:40

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:34

@Autumndays123

You sound unkind from that one post you've posted. Awful, actually. I do hope your children aren't learning that from you.

See how ridiculous that sounds? Judging someone as an unpleasant person who is teaching their child to be unkind based on ONE interaction with someone who was unpleasant to me previously?

I'm not unkind. Explaining to someone that their behaviour was extremely poor and pointing out that their child looks to them for guidance on how to behave is not unkind. You clearly don't understand what unkind means, so perhaps that is why you are so confused by all of these responses.

My comment still stands though. Your child will shape her social interactions based on how she sees you behave. Today you were unpleasant, rude and standoffish. None of which make for a pleasant person. Your comments since I think show your personality more detail. I would suggest some self-reflection.

I'm not really sure why you posted here. It seems you wanted to have a 'slagging off your neighbour' session which seems to have backfired somewhat by others pointing out that actually, you behaved poorly today.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:40

She's also NOT my NDN.

She doesnt even live on the same street. I did clarify this in the OP

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:41

I would suggest some self-reflection.

😂😂😂😂

Ok.

Thank you.

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honeybeesknees · 16/07/2022 20:42

Personally OP, I would have reacted in exactly the same way as you, and I don’t think you were rude for the situation (clearly I’m rude too). I want privacy in my garden, and would not have been impressed at her bothering me like that, and certainly the dog would drive me bonkers. If she wanted to make amends, she should have come and knocked at your door. I would have found her behaviour very intrusive.

BellePeppa · 16/07/2022 20:42

I don’t even know why you’re on here asking if you were unreasonable or not. Your shirty responses to being told by some that you were not very kind seem similar to the shirty responses you gave your neighbour🤷‍♀️

BeerPongChampion · 16/07/2022 20:42

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:37

The only thing my daughter learned from today is that mummy prioritised playing with her in the garden over talking to a neighbour about something that I didn't want to talk about. She did not witness shouting, anger, or heightened emotions of any type. She witnessed mummy continuing to engage and play with her. I mean, I think she'll be ok..... 😬

She’s only 15 months. As clever as I’m sure she is, she will not have noticed any of that. She’d have probably loved to have seen or played with the dog though. 🤭😂

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:43

@honeybeesknees

Yes exactly. You expect privacy in your garden don't you. It felt very intrusive.

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itsgettingweird · 16/07/2022 20:44

Also... am I not entitled to enjoy my garden without befriending anyone who decides to push conversation on my through the fence? Must I engage with anyone and everyone who wants to be friends? Or am I entitled to just enjoy my garden with my little one?

Absolutely.

However with you're attitude I'd expect you're looking at a lifetime enjoying your own time - your dd will grow up and leave home.

If you were my neighbour I wouldn't bother with you - and you'd want to help you never needed my help ever. Because I wouldn't give it. And no one know when they'll need their neighbours help.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:45

@BeerPongChampion

Oh right. I see. Yeah. So at 15 months she wouldn't have been aware of that, but she definitely would have been "watching my interactions" (my polite "that's ok" and "ok" again through the fence😂) and she will definitely learn to be "unkind" from me according to @Chardonnay73.

Which is it? She's either too young to be scarred for life by her mother's one word answers to a neighbour through the fence, or she isn't. I'm confused now. 🤔

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TerriblyNaice · 16/07/2022 20:45

Wow! I'm so shocked that you can't see how awfully you behaved 😟

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:46

However with you're attitude I'd expect you're looking at a lifetime enjoying your own time

Thank you. I have a loving partner, many friends, and a lot of loving family around me. But I appreciate your concern.

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42isthemeaning · 16/07/2022 20:46

Do you think it would be nicer in the end for both of you, if you engaged a little and 'made friends' with the dog? It doesn't need to go any further than that. Now the two of you are unhappy. Sad

BeerPongChampion · 16/07/2022 20:48

I think there’s a reason OP has name changed for this post. She’s saying it’s wrong to judge her on this one interaction but made sure we can’t read anything else she’s written on this site.

I’m out. Happy, yappy days. 🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕🐶🐕

itsgettingweird · 16/07/2022 20:48

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:21

@MiniMoosey

So I should have said something like "I don't want to talk to you anymore, sorry".

And that's not more rude than politely trying to disengage?? Confused

Or try

" sorry can't chat right now as dd needs watching"

The fact you don't even know how to respond effectively explains this whole thread and your attitude 🙄

RedHelenB · 16/07/2022 20:48

OnaBegonia · 16/07/2022 19:01

YABU, she's trying to make peace with you.

This. Yabu. There's some weird folk on mumsnet.

WhackingPhoenix · 16/07/2022 20:49

You sound like a petulant bloody child. Giving it all the sass in your replies, I bet you are truly insufferable in real life!

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:49

@BeerPongChampion

I NC to maintain anonymity like most people do, as piecing together posts can be outingConfused it's allowed. I couldn't give a fuck who read my other posts. I just want to remain anon like we all do on here.

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Chardonnay73 · 16/07/2022 20:50

Actually I said no such thing about your daughter. If you’re going to tag people then please, please get their names right.
And yes I know I said I was bored and leaving the thread, but I won’t have someone attributing something to me that I didn’t say.

randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:50

WhackingPhoenix · 16/07/2022 20:49

You sound like a petulant bloody child. Giving it all the sass in your replies, I bet you are truly insufferable in real life!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:50

@Chardonnay73

Sorry "love", it wasn't you. It was @Autumndays123

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 20:51

42isthemeaning · 16/07/2022 20:46

Do you think it would be nicer in the end for both of you, if you engaged a little and 'made friends' with the dog? It doesn't need to go any further than that. Now the two of you are unhappy. Sad

I'm not unhappy.

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itsgettingweird · 16/07/2022 20:52

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BellePeppa · 16/07/2022 20:52

cadburyegg · 16/07/2022 20:36

YANBU and I'm surprised at so many comments saying otherwise. Your neighbour was basically saying her dog was barking at you because you wouldn't make friends with it! What a fucking idiot she is. Your replies were perfectly reasonable. Yes you were annoyed but that was because she tried to put the onus on you to solve the issue.

I say that to people and I’m not an idiot. My dog has high anxiety, it’s a bloody pain and it’s quite stressful (trainer couldn’t do anything) so when someone new is around, be it a neighbour or workman etc, I say if you let her come to you and pat her she’ll be fine. Thankfully I’ve never had a nasty comeback and they seem happy to do it, especially the men who are always friendly and enthusiastic and seem pleased to have won her trust, women can sometimes be a little cautious but never been rude. Even if it’s a year before she seems them again, she’ll never bark.

WhackingPhoenix · 16/07/2022 20:53

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I hope the dog ramps up the barking tbh 🤪