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Don’t want to “make friends” with neighbour’s dog…

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randomdogfriend · 16/07/2022 18:58

NC for this. Sorry it's long!

Small backstory: Neighbour has a yappy dog that never stops, it comes right up to the fence in our back garden and barks incessantly whenever any of us go into the garden. It also barks at passers by on the street - it literally follows them along the fence yapping incessantly as they walk down the street. Neighbour does very little to address this - the occasion half hearted “stop that (name of dog)”, but it doesn’t listen to her and she doesn’t physically remove it. Last year I had a word with the neighbour about this through the fence - the barking was so bad it was upsetting my then newborn aged baby as we sat in the garden. She argued back with me and was generally unpleasant, so I threatened to report her if it didn’t stop. This was around 12 months ago and I’ve had no interactions with her since. The dog has done its usual nuisance barking at the fence when we’ve been out in the garden but I’ve largely tried to ignore it, and now that DD is a bit older she isn’t as startled or bothered by it. So we just largely ignore now.

Today I took DD (now 15 months) out in the garden to play. I sat on the grass relaxing whilst she played. Yappy dog approached the fence as per usual, but we were far enough away from the fence that I could mostly tune it out and just focus on playing with DD. DD didn’t seem remotely bothered by it either. I was then aware of neighbour approaching the fence and heard her say “oh are you saying hello (dogs name)?” Dog continued to incessantly yap. I ignored and continued to play with DD.

Next thing I heard “excuse me can I talk to you?“ through the fence. The fence is too high to see over it, and you can just about make out a person through the slats but I couldn’t really see her. I said “sorry, do you mean me?” (Not really able to see anyone at this point, just a shadow through the fence, and I was also sat a good few feet away from the fence. She said “yes”. I said “erm, yeah I suppose, I can’t see you but I can hear you”. She said “I’m sorry my dog barks and annoys you”. I replied “that’s ok” and then continued to engage with DD who was toddling around (so my attention was more focussed on her and I honestly didn’t want to have any interaction with anyone else at that point). I was hoping this would end the conversation. She continued: “if you made friends with her, she wouldn’t bark at you”. I just again decided to give a one word answer in the hope she would disengage from me as all I wanted to do was relax and play with DD. I replied again “right, ok”. She then continued… “if you made friends with her she wouldn’t bark and then you wouldn’t complain, would you”.

At this point I got irritated as she was pushing an unwanted conversation and also implying I had “complained” when I’d had one interaction with her about this a whole year ago where I’d threatened to complain but not followed that through, and also not mentioned the dog to her since.

I replied: “I just want to enjoy my garden with my DD. I don’t want to have to make friends with a dog through the fence. If your dog is barking constantly it’s because you aren’t training her properly, and that’s up to you to address. It’s not down to other people to make friends with your dog”.

It was more than I wanted to invest in the interaction but to be honest she had annoyed me by that point.

She then said, randomly, “how old is your daughter now?” I replied with her age. In between I was playing with DD and interacting with her, hoping neighbour would get the hint that I didn’t want to engage with her. She then said “what’s her name?” I replied with her name. Just one word answers to try to end it. She then said “ok. I just thought we could be friends that’s all”. Then she (presumably) walked off back to her house (like I say, limited visibility through the fence).

The whole interaction was just so random. Firstly I hadn’t commented on her dog, I was minding my own business and playing with DD. Also a whole year has passed since our last interaction so why approach me now? It would have made sense if I’d complained there and then about the dog, but I’d said nothing. I was just ignoring it as I usually do.

If it’s relevant this isn’t a next door neighbour as such. It’s hard to explain but we are a detached house and her back garden and mine back share a boundary fence. Our houses are nowhere near each other and are actually on separate streets. I am friends with my next door neighbour, by choice, who is lovely. I have no desire to be friends with this other neighbour or her dog.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog? When I'm in my garden I just want to relax and enjoy my garden and my daughter. Is this reasonable? Also, should random people be expected to befriend dogs, or is the onus on the owners to stop the barking regardless?

Any thoughts welcomed.

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gogohmm · 17/07/2022 19:11

You can't make friends with a dog to stop them barking. Mine barked periodically at my neighbours for 12 years, ignoring them most days but then would bark. He saw their garden as his territory (and got reprimanded every time to no avail)

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:13

I’m just returning to this shit-show of a thread to offer another perspective.

How rude. Confused

Such a "shit show" that you just had to comment again...... righty ho.

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randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:16

Dobbysgotthesocks · 17/07/2022 18:08

Your the one getting confrontational! Your the one threatening to report her dog for ... well being a dog!!!
Your being confrontational in your tone on here! I suggest that perhaps you need to look at your own interactions before you start worrying about and threatening other people!

I'm being confrontational in my tone here because I'm being confronted on here. It's quite simple.

I was accused of being a shit mother who's teaching my child to be rude, I was called a "twat" and told I was "so far up my own arse" etc..... that's just a selection of the shit I've had thrown at me on here that was rightly deleted early on.

A person is confrontational when they are attacked. Think about that.

Also - why would you assume the way I approach interactions on the internet with strangers who are largely piling on and attacking me is the same as how I manage a one to one real life interaction? That's a really short sighted view. Surely you realise that different scenarios demand different types of interaction.

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randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:19

Butchyrestingface · 17/07/2022 18:08

No. SHE is the one who "started" the whole thing. The first interaction would have been unnecessary if it wasn't for her stupid untrained yapping dog making my baby cry, and her laziness by not addressing it. I'm not going to stand by while someone's poorly trained pet distresses my newborn baby. And the second interaction was again her doing - she approached me to talk to me.

I don't see that, I'm afraid. Irrespective of what her dog was up to, you started the interactions through the fence - irrespective of how hard it is to see someone through the fence, you obviously thought it was fine for YOU to start up a discussion about her dog through the fence last summer.

You could have gone round to talk to her in person, but you decided to communicate with her through the fence.

And now here you are trying to make her sound strange for choosing to communicate with you through a fence.

No, I started the FIRST interaction through the fence, in which I politely asked her to remove the dog away from the fence.

I did not start the second interaction and have never initiated an interaction with her at any other time.

Bottom line - if she made an effort to prevent her dog from being a total PITA none of this would even be an issue. And that's why she's 100% at fault.

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randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:21

*I strongly disagree that having a yappy dog who barks all the time is part of living in a community. That's just a huge lack awareness of others. And thankfully, certainly locally, would not be tolerated. It very much would be considered a noise nuisance and the dog potentially removed.

A dog who barks occasionally- yes regular neighbourhood noise, but one who barks all the time? That's not normal level of noise.*

100%, this.

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stuntbubbles · 17/07/2022 19:24

Lolll what’s a more likely scenario:

The OP and every single passer-by transmitting “negative vibes” through a fence.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrr…

The dog’s a cunt.

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:30

@stuntbubbles 😂

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Jovanka · 17/07/2022 19:30

This thread is starting to take on Gryffindor/Slytherin like qualities 🤣. Either that or the heat is getting to me.

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:33

Oh I'd also like to point out to the person who said "you've commented over 100 times" or whatever..... A lot of that is tedious repetition because no one can be arsed to read my replies and they are just making up their own narratives and repeating shit that's already been said, meaning I'm also just repeating shit I've already said. 😂

I reckon at least 50-60 replies are repetition. 😂

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Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 19:38

Ha ha ha ha and still it goes on 24 hours later, I am 100% right and not rude and neighbour is 100% wrong and very rude. So is everyone who disagrees with me so I shall report them...that will show em', I am not a shy retiring wallflower. I am not to be trifled with you know.

Was I mean or unreasonable to not want to be friends with either her or her dog

Yes you were.

NO I WASN'T!!!! You are barking up the wrong tree there. I AM RIGHT! (pardon the pun)

Any thoughts welcomed

Sorry that was a bareface lie, if you choose to disagree with me your comments are not very welcome at all and I will bare my teeth and growl at you (pardon the pun again).

May the yaps be long, loud and plentiful.... There's a good furbaby!

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:44

@Loveisnotloving

Are you ok?

What a bizarre and ranty post.

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randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:46

@Loveisnotloving

You think I am unreasonable to not want to be her friend? So please, do tell me... Do you literally make friends with anyone and everyone who approaches you for friendship? You have no criteria or boundaries? You don't rule out a possible friendship with someone who wants it, based on either their behaviour or character, for example?

Yikes. That's..... an interesting approach. 😬

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Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 19:47

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:44

@Loveisnotloving

Are you ok?

What a bizarre and ranty post.

Aaaaaaand she bit (pardon the pun again). You had to didn't you.

Awhhh I have had such entertainment here. Funniest thread in ages. I shall refer to it often when I am in a bad mood :)

Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 19:50

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:46

@Loveisnotloving

You think I am unreasonable to not want to be her friend? So please, do tell me... Do you literally make friends with anyone and everyone who approaches you for friendship? You have no criteria or boundaries? You don't rule out a possible friendship with someone who wants it, based on either their behaviour or character, for example?

Yikes. That's..... an interesting approach. 😬

No, I think you are unreasonable for the way you spoke (or declined to speak) to her as she made an effort of reconciliation.

The epitome of rudeness.

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:55

@Loveisnotloving

I genuinely feel that you need something else in your life other than mumsnet. Do you ever go out? Maybe try it. 👍🏻

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Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 19:57

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 19:55

@Loveisnotloving

I genuinely feel that you need something else in your life other than mumsnet. Do you ever go out? Maybe try it. 👍🏻

Says the one who posted 1000 times in 24 hours...ha ha classic.

Mousemat25 · 17/07/2022 19:57

the OP does not have to learn to coexist with the dog! It’s laughable! It wasn’t her decision to get a dog and not train it. The neighbour has three choices.

  1. Train the dog not to bark
  2. Move somewhere where her decision to get a dog and not train it won’t affect the lives of others.
  3. put the dog down.

im surprised the OP has been so patient so far. Barking dogs are a statutory nuisance. Paper could have contacted her local authority a long time ago, but has not done so - presumably not to be rude.

JauntyJinty · 17/07/2022 20:00

Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 19:50

No, I think you are unreasonable for the way you spoke (or declined to speak) to her as she made an effort of reconciliation.

The epitome of rudeness.

She only "made an effort of reconciliation" to try to pass the responsibilty of training her dog onto OP

She's a manipulative CF

People keep talking about an olive branch igoring the fact this particular olive branch has a big lump of some yappy little dogs shit on the end of it!

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 20:01

Says the one who posted 1000 times in 24 hours...ha ha classic.

apart from a 6 hour period today when I was out having, y'know, a life.

I'm actually starting to think you might be my shitty yappy dog owning neighbour tbh. The intelligence level of your replies matches my interactions with her...... it's almost uncanny. 😬

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RincewindsHat · 17/07/2022 20:03

My neighbour's dog barks and I say "Hello [name of dog]!" and she stops. Maybe that's all your neighbour meant by making friends. Some dogs cannot be easily trained out of barking, eg corgis are very vocal and just will not shut up so maybe her proposed solution is the best one.

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 20:04

People keep talking about an olive branch igoring the fact this particular olive branch has a big lump of some yappy little dogs shit on the end of it!

😂😂😂

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Loveisnotloving · 17/07/2022 20:08

randomdogfriend · 17/07/2022 20:01

Says the one who posted 1000 times in 24 hours...ha ha classic.

apart from a 6 hour period today when I was out having, y'know, a life.

I'm actually starting to think you might be my shitty yappy dog owning neighbour tbh. The intelligence level of your replies matches my interactions with her...... it's almost uncanny. 😬

Tis meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Fido!!!! Are you barking at all those negative vibes flying over the fence?????

There's a good guard dog!

honeybeesknees · 17/07/2022 20:10

Imagine if every time you went into your garden you had to say hello to your neighbour through the fence before they would stop staring at you and leave you alone 🤣
I’m totally baffled by some of the responses on this thread. OP has put up with a lot, yappy dogs are bloody annoying! This situation is literally nothing to do with her, other than being inflicted on her, and she should be kind about it?? Bizarre!

stillvicarinatutu · 17/07/2022 20:11

I. Reply to your reply to my post ....

My point is your child (children) will make noise that your neighbour might not want to hear .🤷🏻‍♀️

JauntyJinty · 17/07/2022 20:34

stillvicarinatutu · 17/07/2022 20:11

I. Reply to your reply to my post ....

My point is your child (children) will make noise that your neighbour might not want to hear .🤷🏻‍♀️

OP can simply ignore it for a year and then very nicely ask the neighbour to befriend her child to make it stop

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