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To think people don’t seem to understand how hot it is predicted to be next week?

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Toohot22 · 14/07/2022 17:26

On threads expressing concern re the heat, people keep saying ‘what do you think they do in hotter countries’?

According to my BBC weather app, next Monday and Tuesdays predictions are:

35 in Lahore, Pakistan
32/33 degrees in Miami, Florida
33 and 32 degrees in Kingston, Jamaica
29 degrees in Mali (which is the worlds hottest country, apparently!)
30 in the Maldives
38 and 35 in Spain.

The current predictions for me are 36 and 37 degrees.

AIBU to think some posters don’t realise we are talking about temperatures hotter than some of the hottest countries in the world!?

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Hrpuffnstuff1 · 16/07/2022 10:24

onlythreenow · 16/07/2022 04:48

@ZombieMumEB - You are wasting your time trying to convince MNers that Australian houses are not built for heat (or cold) - I've already tried that. I'm in NZ, but it's the same here. Apparently the heat, the houses, people with SEN, people with illnesses, the elderly, people with fair skin, people who have to go to work, the electricity, the melting tar are all so much worse in the UK than in any other country on earth. Oh, how they suffer!

Whinging poms innit.
I can not believe the drama over these two days.😂

LaDamaDeElche · 16/07/2022 10:27

Ah I'm from Extremadura, not a million miles away then, but my town is quite rural. I remember the morning lessons/lectures at uni were between 8am-2pm, then it was 5pm-8pm if you had them in the evening. I can't remember anywhere at all being open between 2pm-5pm, although I left years ago so maybe pharmacies stayed open and I've forgotten Uni is still like that here, schools finish at 2 or 3, apart from Sept and and June when the primary schools finish at 1. Small, independent stores seem to close, but the bigger shops stay open here. Pharmacies do what they want I guess, depending on who owns them. I've got three really close and one closes and two stay open. Offices run normal hours though. The only think that's different from the U.K. is the earlier start and a break for almuerzo.

LaDamaDeElche · 16/07/2022 10:28

*thing

EvaAmi · 16/07/2022 10:39

Totally not being unreasonable. Mid late 20s is fine, 40 as it’s predicted here in London is a nightmare. There is no way this country is set up to cope; as others have written we have insulated housing all designed to keep heat in, no air con in houses or public transport etc.

I’d get by if it was just me, but worried for my two little ones/baby - their rooms at night have been the hottest part of the day temperature +1 or 2 degrees for the past couple weeks, so if that’s anything to go by am dreading Monday night. Will take all measures I can, there’s not much else to do but wait until the reprieve on Wednesday!

ClaudineClare · 16/07/2022 10:43

liveforsummer · 16/07/2022 09:47

There is nothing wrong with warning people to take care in heat that the UK rarely sees, but the media blows everything up into hyperbole.*

But why assume most of us need warned? The OP isn't significantly smarter than the majority of use or the only one who understands what hot feels like. The stupid people that do need warned won't listen anyway and will still go onto and drink cider all day on the beach regardless. I'd argue we are beginning to acclimatise. Summers have generally been warm and we've had pretty consistent warm weather this month bar the odd day - it's only few degrees hotter than other heatwaves we've had in recent years, it's not going to be THAT much different. Not really any different acclimatisation wise to leaving the UK to go to a cheap self catering apartment block with no air con etc and finding you arrive in a heat wave.

I didn't mean the OP warning people, more the Met office. I agree Met office warnings are wasted on some people, though.

Mind you, given the bun fight on here, I wonder if the heat is already making some people grumpy!

liveforsummer · 16/07/2022 10:49

EvaAmi · 16/07/2022 10:39

Totally not being unreasonable. Mid late 20s is fine, 40 as it’s predicted here in London is a nightmare. There is no way this country is set up to cope; as others have written we have insulated housing all designed to keep heat in, no air con in houses or public transport etc.

I’d get by if it was just me, but worried for my two little ones/baby - their rooms at night have been the hottest part of the day temperature +1 or 2 degrees for the past couple weeks, so if that’s anything to go by am dreading Monday night. Will take all measures I can, there’s not much else to do but wait until the reprieve on Wednesday!

Set up camp downstairs? Wherever is the coolest room in the house. make it a little adventure.

eastegg · 16/07/2022 11:18

hangrylady · 16/07/2022 09:06

Well don't be such a bloody drama queen then.

I just said a red weather warning means a risk to life. It does. Have you actually read what it means?

Show me what I have said that is either being a drama queen, or shitting myself. You can’t, because I haven’t.

Serenbunny · 16/07/2022 11:31

You get how

Serenbunny · 16/07/2022 11:35

Do you get how seasons work? It is summer here but winter down under?

I lived in Australia and we had a run of 30 days when temp was above 40. We still went to work, kids went to school etc.

Yes the elderly with multiple health conditions are at risk but the biggest cause of death among young people was drowning.

Trust me you will cope for under 2 days.

OneTC · 16/07/2022 11:45

I've never seen terraced housing in Oz,

Biggest lol of the thread so far

Bumtum126 · 16/07/2022 11:50

Serenbunny · 16/07/2022 11:35

Do you get how seasons work? It is summer here but winter down under?

I lived in Australia and we had a run of 30 days when temp was above 40. We still went to work, kids went to school etc.

Yes the elderly with multiple health conditions are at risk but the biggest cause of death among young people was drowning.

Trust me you will cope for under 2 days.

I guess that's the point, the UK hasn't had 40c at all , if you lived in a country with so many days above 40c you would know how to cope

SleeplessInEngland · 16/07/2022 13:11

Aussiegirl88 · 16/07/2022 01:14

I'm Australian
whinge when you have heatwaves of 40°

Sounds shit. Sorry you have to live there.

GoodThinkingMax · 16/07/2022 13:19

As for Australian homes being based on English homes, really? How many have an upstairs?

I've never seen terraced housing in Oz, obviously I have not been everywhere.

You must have had your eyes closed for your entire trip @sashh because what you've posted about Australian housing is rubbish.

JassyRadlett · 16/07/2022 14:04

Oh god, the Competitive Australians rocked up overnight. I used to behave like that. (Australian, have lived in the UK for years but did my time in Brisbane with no car, on the bus route that had the old buses with no aircon, never lived in a house with aircon, etc etc etc, lived in Melbourne during heatwaves and in winter, lived in rural areas so have worked stock in heatwaves, fought bushfires, etc.)

First, I don't think it's controversial to say that Australia is better set up to deal with heat. It's imperfect but it's better, and it's improved even further in the last two decades. And Australians overall know better how to deal with heat and the culture is better at dealing with hot weather.

Second, Queenslanders are bloody brilliant houses for the heat (but terrible in cold weather.)

Third, Australian housing stock is incredibly diverse particularly city by city and state by state but saying it's based on UK housing is really weird to me; yes you'll find houses that have similarities but overall the housing stock is very different. (And I've never been in a McMansion that didn't have aircon.)

Fourth, Australians also complain when temperatures go over 35, despite it being a regular occurrence. And I know quite a lot of people who during major heatwaves kept their kids off school, etc.

I know the Australian superiority thing when looking at the UK dealing with heat is tempting, just like it is for Scandinavian people looking at the UK struggle with properly cold snaps. But it's not actually a game of Who Has It Worse.

Now I'll return to telling my English husband how to do the windows and doors properly for this kind of weather, because he seems unable to learn...

JassyRadlett · 16/07/2022 14:09

(It's the bloody windows in British houses that drive me mad. Not only is the prevailing modern window design set up so that screens are near impossible, but they also seem intended to make sure you can never catch a decent breeze. Wish we had sash or sliding instead.)

(I also have strong views about the fear of electricity in bathrooms, but that's for another thread.)

LionKween · 16/07/2022 14:10

Aussiegirl88 · 16/07/2022 01:14

I'm Australian
whinge when you have heatwaves of 40°

@Aussiegirl88 I had Australian friends coming over one winter when it was -33..they did whinge. 😂 They whinged, a lot, when they forgot bottles of beer from the shop, in the car and the caps had all exploded the next morning.

LionKween · 16/07/2022 14:17

I know the Australian superiority thing when looking at the UK dealing with heat is tempting, just like it is for Scandinavian people looking at the UK struggle with properly cold snaps. But it's not actually a game of Who Has It Worse.

@JassyRadlett Spot on. Swedish/Australian/British family here, and yes people are confused when it’s -1 in the UK and it’s on the news. But, cars for example are not equipped coping with ice and snow like ours, we have proper winter tyres (even on our bikes) and we get taught to drive on slippery ice when taking out drivers licence. It’s not that easy to compare countries, but people don’t seem to get that.

LionKween · 16/07/2022 14:17

*our not out

Pickingmyselfup · 16/07/2022 15:15

It's forecast 40 for where I am on Monday which I definitely know is hot, I'm not sure I've ever been in 40 degrees and I've been in a lot of hot places.

However it doesn't worry me at all, perhaps I'm just sheltered. My eldest will go to school as normal on Monday, they have told us how they are going to be dealing with the heat and it sounds like a good plan to me. We will drive instead of walk and us the Aircon in my car. I'll have the youngest at home with me and he can stay in the house which will have the curtain's and windows shut and I have a couple of fans too. There is a paddling pool if he wants and I'll attempt to sit out because I love the heat. If I get too hot or feel light headed I'll go inside and sit in front of a fan with water.

Nursery is having discussions about closing Monday/Tuesday so I'll have to take Tuesday off work if they do. Not ideal but my job isn't life or death, my husband can't do it and there is nobody else.

I'm sure I would feel a lot differently if I lived in a baking hot flat, couldn't afford ice pops, electricity for fans, had to walk to school, worked somewhere that is essential but as I don't I'm not getting worked up about it. Friends and family are in the same position as me so the only people it will affect is strangers and honestly I have enough on my plate without worrying about them as callous as it sounds.

I don't doubt that there will be deaths from the heat, heatstroke, drowning, people not listening and going on a hike but most people will muddle through unscathed apart from being really hot.

It's the same in winter, most people muddle through a really cold snap but unfortunately some don't but just like with COVID we can't stop the world from turning for a minority.

Again maybe it's easy for me to say having nobody who will suffer, if I did I would perhaps be demanding schools and workplaces close, I don't know.

I just don't think we need to panic but just take sensible precautions.

TruthHertz · 16/07/2022 20:42

So bizarre that people pay good money to spend a fortnight on holiday in these temps but shit themselves at the prospect of dealing with them for two days here.

onlythreenow · 16/07/2022 21:05

@Pickingmyselfup - what a very sensible post. It's a shame there aren't more people like you on MN.

Nofreshstarthere22 · 16/07/2022 21:06

I agree, my children aren't going to school, the buildings are too hot normally and school/child rubbish at water intaje

ApplesandBunions · 16/07/2022 21:38

TruthHertz · 16/07/2022 20:42

So bizarre that people pay good money to spend a fortnight on holiday in these temps but shit themselves at the prospect of dealing with them for two days here.

Not really. Even assuming you're correct that there is any overlap between the two groups, the fact that when British people go abroad they're in accommodation designed for the climate, often with air con, and not doing any hard work while they're there would be a complete explanation.

ellieboolou · 16/07/2022 21:59

TruthHertz · 16/07/2022 20:42

So bizarre that people pay good money to spend a fortnight on holiday in these temps but shit themselves at the prospect of dealing with them for two days here.

That's what some mums at school said to me when I mentioned it was too hot for our primary aged kids to sit on the field at 1.30pm for their summer concert.

They don't know me that well but if they did they would know I'd never book a holiday where temperatures are almost 40. I book out of season with mid 20's.

PlacidPenelope · 16/07/2022 22:17

LaDamaDeElche · 16/07/2022 09:00

Exactly. Countries like Spain are changing because life is changing. Kids used to come home for lunch and go back to school, woman stayed at home while the men worked, so were there to look after the kids and cook lunch for the long break. Those days are gone. Both parents work and office hours have changed to get inline with that. My DD is at high school and some years finish at 3. It’s baking hot and they have to make their way home in that heat. It’s not ideal and the schools should have AC, but there just isn’t the money. The houses here are set up better for the summer than U.K. houses, but are so cold in the winter. I’m colder here than I ever felt in the U.K. Electricity prices have always been astronomical here, I couldn’t believe how much more expensive my bills were here than the U.K. and how much lower salaries are! It can get quite humid where I am too, so your house feels almost damp in the winter and the summer is stifling. It was 88% humidity here the other day. We also had the wettest spring on record and the infrastructure here isn’t set up for rain at all. The roads were flooded, our neighbours ceiling collapsed and now thanks to the unusually wet spring we are having real problems with mosquitos and cockroaches, more than I’ve ever seen before. The crazy weather affects us all, it’s just people on the continent are slightly less dramatic about it, but they still complain 😂

The area my relatives live everything still shuts 1/1.30 pm until 4.30/5, including pharmacies, schools shut lunchtime and go back late afternoon, no construction work takes place between 1.00 and 4.00 even on private houses as this is deemed a quiet time. Banks and the Post Office are strictly mornings only. Road works are normally carried out overnight in the summer. The exceptions are large supermarkets and shops and businesses in the major cities in the region.

They say the same as you regarding the astronomical price of electricity which has always been higher than in the UK, the exceptional rainfall over the Winter and Spring and the intense humidity. Now the major concern is the risk of wild fires, the place is like a tinder box and Olive trees burn like crazy. They have been close to wild fires in the last few years but not close enough to be evacuated.