Another Kardashian ksurrogacy

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I guess aibu that all this celebrity surrogacy is problematic?

So khloe’s rep has just confirmed that she’s having another baby with Tristan v surrogate. Aside from the fact, it’s a pretty dumb decision to knowingly and purposefully bring another child into that incredibly toxic relationship where he has such little respect for her, they’ve used a surrogate.

it just feels like with celebrities these days, they want the child but not the ‘difficulties’ of pregnancy or the ‘damage’ it can do to the body. Especially with the kardashians, khloe’s reasoning for a surrogate is that she could be a ‘high risk pregnancy’ with no further clarification of what that means, not that she owes me an explanation but it’s coming across like ‘pay someone to do the grunt work for me’. I mean both my pregnancies were ‘high risk’ ones because I had growth scans, high risk/ low risk are just to designate the level of care you get.

its not just the Kardashian’s, priyanka chopra did it due to scheduling and there was another can’t recall who, but who basically said she didn’t want to take time out of her career right now for pregnancy, yet can have a baby?

Definitely NBU to feel uncomfortable with surrogacy. I’m not sure I’m even on board when there are fertility issues. It’s not ethical. (Outside of doing it for a loved one without getting paid maybe.) Trouble is, it’s being normalised too much. And I don’t think the Kardashians are to blame for that, but they’re certainly not going to help it.

To me, there is a huge difference between using a surrogate because you otherwise couldn't have a child, and using a surrogate because pregnancy is a bit of an inconvenience. There should be much tighter laws around it.

I don't agree with commercial surrogacy at all and I hate the way it has been normalised.

Both involve the buying and selling of body parts / child trafficking if you take it to it’s basic level. Would you be ok with buying a 3 month old baby?
surrogacy is NEVER acceptable.

Nobody has a right to have a child. If you can't have one yourself that doesn't mean you're entitled to rent someone else's body, IMO.

Oh yeah they’re not solely responsible for it, but at least with Kim she had pre e In both pregnancies not just a flimsy excuse of ‘might be high risk’ which she’s over 35 so yeah label wise she’d be ‘high risk’ but it means FA, just another woman who didn’t want to carry the baby.

lucy liu and amber heard are the other 2 that came out and said I don’t have time for pregnancy…. But they have time for a child?

the fact that there are career surrogates in the states blows my mind, it’s the rich paying the poor to put their health on the line and birth their child for them…. It’s sick

I find it really uncomfortable particularly when it's due to vanity or inconvenience.

Khloe always had fertility issues. It was shown many times on the shows. Seemed to br a struggle for years. Lots of hospital appointments and tears shown. Her first daughter was a bit of a surprise to everyone as a result. Maybe she's not been so lucky a second time.

priyanka chopra did it due to scheduling and there was another can’t recall who

Priyanka's case was quite tragic because the baby way born extremely early. I think that might be one thing that haunts you forever since you'll always be wondering what if you had carried the pregnancy yourself.. Obviously it's no way the fault of the surrogate but it's still a decision that was taken with lifelong consequences. All the money in the world can't guarantee a healthy baby.

We actually know 2 people who used surrogates in the LA area. The women who volunteer are not "renting their body parts" but doing so because they genuinely wanted to help childless couples. They were already mothers of multiple kids and had easy and enjoyable pregnancies. Of course, case above proves there's always a risk but the entire process was surprisingly professional from start to finish.

Honestly idk how to feel about this. I do find surrogacy weird but

They’re not forcing the surrogate to do anything, the surrogate provides wilful consent. They’re presumably paid significantly well. I am unsure about calling surrogacy the exploitation of the “poor”, as I reckon celebrities wouldn’t risk using a “poor woman”. They’d sooner use a woman that was the American equivalent of middle class who can pass high vetting/health checks and wouldn’t be susceptible to media/emotion/exploitation in general. They know using a surrogate on the poverty line would not be a good PR look.

She’s admitted her fertility problems with Lamar were were all lie. The first daughter can’t have been that much of a high risk, she flew to Japan supposedly 7+ months pregnant.
Shes a complete bullshitter.

Curious to know - has anyone ever spoken to a person who has done surrogacy and carried the child to term? Or read their views?

ever?

and understood why they have their reasons to support other women (not every single case is about money).

also, can anyone ever properly shut down the “marketplace” for this?

Khloe always had fertility issues. It was shown many times on the shows.

I don't believe anything on that show, it's all PR & storylines

I was genuinely sickened to find out about Alec Baldwin and Hillary using a surrogate.

She already had lots of kids and while the surrogate was pregnant, Hillary became pregnant. The kids are a few months apart.

It does smack of bad taste. But I don't think it's anything new TBH. Look at Madonna essentially buying her children from poor countries. The rich exploit the poor.

"At least with Kim....."
Pretty much justifying Kim using a surrogate there.
No, it's never ok to buy babies and use women as incubators.

I agree with this. One on hand, it’s deeply concerning that women’s bodies are treated like a commodity and I have moral questions about taking a newborn from its mother.

but on the other hand… if women are getting paid so well (and I imagine with the K klan they would be), and it’s their body and their choice then who are we to step in and declare it should be stopped?

I’m pretty sure her doctors told her her chances of miscarriage were exceptionally high which is why she didn’t want to risk losing a healthy embryo by having it implanted in her own womb. She infact desperately did want to carry the pregnancy herself.

Imo Chopra's, "I'm too busy to be pregnant", was awful. If you're too busy to be pregnant how the hell do you think you are going to be there for the child after they've been born?

It’s vile.

khloe’s reasoning for a surrogate is that she could be a ‘high risk pregnancy’ with no further clarification of what that means, not that she owes me an explanation yes she doesnt owe you an explanation and it feels a bit off to me to keep downplaying her "high risk" when you have no idea of the reason for it.

As for surrogacy, the whole thing does feel a bit odd to me especially when money is exchanged but I haven't really read up about it.

Interestingly on one of the episodes of the new series Khloe and the mum were talking about Kourtney's IVF and Khloe said something that made it clear she's done or tried IVF but been unsuccessful but then she realised and moved the conversation on quickly

well that's going upset a lot of people

The 'surrogate' is probably another one of Tristan's flings