Another Kardashian ksurrogacy

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I guess aibu that all this celebrity surrogacy is problematic?

So khloe’s rep has just confirmed that she’s having another baby with Tristan v surrogate. Aside from the fact, it’s a pretty dumb decision to knowingly and purposefully bring another child into that incredibly toxic relationship where he has such little respect for her, they’ve used a surrogate.

it just feels like with celebrities these days, they want the child but not the ‘difficulties’ of pregnancy or the ‘damage’ it can do to the body. Especially with the kardashians, khloe’s reasoning for a surrogate is that she could be a ‘high risk pregnancy’ with no further clarification of what that means, not that she owes me an explanation but it’s coming across like ‘pay someone to do the grunt work for me’. I mean both my pregnancies were ‘high risk’ ones because I had growth scans, high risk/ low risk are just to designate the level of care you get.

its not just the Kardashian’s, priyanka chopra did it due to scheduling and there was another can’t recall who, but who basically said she didn’t want to take time out of her career right now for pregnancy, yet can have a baby?

I find it bizarre she would want another child with a man who repeatedly cheated on you and humiliated you including conceiving a child with another woman on the evening of his 30th birthday party that Khloe did for him!

It was rumoured her first pregnancy was also via surrogate and that her bump was purely a fake one for show, it was all over the blind sites. She also said she never struggled with fertility, she just said that as an excuse not to have kids with Lamar when in fact he was a druggy who was cheating on her with sex workers.

Utterly bizarre, they use these surrogates as incubators with no regard for their health, Kim admitted on one of the shows that she’d never even met the surrogate. How is that possible. And like with the jonas brother and his wife, their baby was born really early. If she has been left with life long disabilities due to this, are they really going be able to/ have the desire take care of her if they don’t have time to go through a pregnancy? It’s a totallY different world

I worked with a girl who was a surrogate for her sister, she had had cancer and her eggs/husbands sperm has been frozen prior to treatment. My colleague had 4 kids of her own and offered to be a surrogate but she found it really hard, it was a twin pregnancy, she was tired, she felt her body had been taken over by aliens, she had a traumatic birth and was left with lifelong problems and even though she loves her nephews she struggles to be around them just due to physical and emotional trauma

Everything around it’s merky. The fact rich people can pay to use other peoples bodies or just buy babies from poor countries is not right.

elon musk ands grimes second baby was a surrogate because she was too busy and that was while he was off having twins with another women. Ambers baby again surro and possibly elons too. With rich female celebs I tend to think it’s more to do with keeping their body during the pregnancy so keep work coming in and not having to deal with the work to go back to normal. Probably got nannies waiting for the night shifts straight away too.

Has anyone else noticed the creeping in of the "happy surrogate" trope, similar to the "happy hooker"? I'm seeing it more and more.

Aside from the fact that surrogacy is wrong on all levels, why on earth would she bring another child into the world in such a messed up situation? They're not together and didn't he have another child with someone?

I think lots of these women who are too busy to be pregnant also plan on farming the babies out to a succession of childcare options for most of their childhood.

Probably got nannies waiting for the night shifts straight away too. I don't think it's fair to judge people for having help with the night shifts, they are brutal and I think most parents would appreciate help with them! It just muddies the issues if it becomes about wealth. Either people disagree with surrogacy whatever the circumstances or they don't. It shouldn't be about all the extra help people can buy.

Whilst it would be silly to believe everything I did watch the programme when Khloe was having fertility issues and I thought it seemed genuine, she really seemed to be struggling with her sisters having multiple children

Like a pp I really torn on this issue

Whats wrong with childcare?!

Are you being deliberately obtuse? I am talking about a permanent stream of day, night and holiday nannies such that the busy celebrity parents barely see their child except for the odd photo opp.

To intentionally create a baby with the express intention of removing it from the only mother it knows ( the woman carrying it) is absurdly horrific. Even worse, it happens at birth . That baby only knows and wants ONE person and it's the woman that carried it, the woman whose taste, smell , heartbeat, movement and even language that it recognises. Surrogacy IS people trafficking.

A baby isn't a "gift". It's a person that (should) have rights ( but seemingly doesn't). Surrogacy 100% centres the commissioning parents and then the surrogate, then, very last, the baby. Adoption is making best of a worst case scenario and placing the baby in the best possible home to suit the BABY. Not the purchasing parents and their desire to fit around schedules and save their body the grief.

It should ALL be banned.

Just as a point of view re high risk. I was high risk throughout but fine until I hit 8.5 months then went downhill with preeclampsia.

I have been told if I get pregnant again I will be putting myself at risk as the preeclampsia has a high chance of coming back earlier thus risking premature birth and myself becoming very unwell.

I also know of people who have successfully had one baby but due to birth complications/postpartum discoveries it means carrying a second would be much more risky and dangerous.

Tell that to someone heartbroken over being unable to have a child any other way and see if they agree.

Where is the proof that this is what happens though?

Why doesn’t she adopt? I don’t understand why they don’t do something useful and ethical to get a baby instead of the opposite (surrogacy).

This commercialisation of women and children is abhorrent.

I agree with Blusterylake. Commercial surrogacy for your own convenience is illegal in the UK, and is a world apart from helping a friend or sister.

It's vital to have the right relationships, information, support and agreements in place, so all eventualities are understood and agreed upon, before going ahead. Women who offer to be a surrogate in this way come from all walks of life. It is not about 'using' (horrible word) a surrogate who needs money, it's about finding out all you need to know before freely choosing to help, or accepting help from, someone you trust.

I know I'll be shot down by those who are anti surrogacy in any form. But my preference is for it to be properly regulated, not banned.

Oh noez, she so desperately did, as she wants more kids than she already has.
My heart bleeds.

@Pottedpalm

I have nothing but sympathy for people that have struggled with fertility. But exploiting a womans uterus, commandeering her body for 9 months and risking her life, often for £250 a week "costs" and then stealing the baby from the only mother it knows ..... actually trafficking a baby is never ok. Where is that poor BABIES rights? Is right too it's mother? This isn't about genetics. That baby hasn't got a clue who those new parents are. It only knows the woman who carried it . It's actually proven that babies can recognise her taste, smell, voice, language and movement patterns. She is literally that babies entire world.

So please tell me, stay by step, why a grown adults desire to be a parent is more important than that new born babies right to remain with its mother?

In the uk women can still claim "costs" or around £250-350 a week. Some women do actually look at it like a way to earn a bit of money.

That was my first thought.

There's only one reason she's using a surrogate. She's lost loads of weight and finally isn't the fat sister anymore. No way does she want to wreck her body with another pregnancy.
Why on Earth she's having another baby with that serial love rat I have no idea. True has enough cousins etc around her. She doesn't need a sibling from a part time father in that toxic relationship ship.

So adopted children aren't 'your' children. Yep, you're going to offend an awful lot of people.

Maybe only post on a surrogacy thread when you know what surrogacy is?

Anyone who believes a word that comes out of her mouth after the millions of times she’s been caught out lying must be a little bit… gullible, at best.

I'm adopted. You've upset me.