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AIBU to not make my child eat everything on her plate?

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Lolabear38 · 08/07/2022 00:21

We have close friends whose house we eat at, or they eat at ours, fairly often. They have different expectations at dinner time for their kids than I do - they enforce a very strict ‘clear your plate or no pudding’ rule, I don’t do this.

When dd is at their house, their rule applies. Generally I would agree - their house, their rule but there have been quite a few times recently when she’s become very upset at being forced to eat a whole plate full of food she doesn’t want with the threat of no pudding hanging over her (she’s 6 and loves pudding). Friend or her DH are very firm with all the kids that they have to eat everything and they follow through with the threat of no pudding. It’s got to the point where I’m finding reasons not to go there to eat because dd is so anxious about it.

What is bothering me a lot about this situation is when they come to eat at ours, they try and enforce the same rule. I took friend aside this evening and told her that I don’t generally make dd clear her plate and explained why - she said fair enough but for the sake of making everything fair to her kids when they’re all eating together the rule has to apply - it’s not fair her kids have to do this while mine don’t.

I take things on a case by case basis - I generally know what dd had eaten in the day and so know she’s had a roughly balanced diet so if she doesn’t want to finish a whole plate of food, and presuming she’s eaten (what I consider to be) enough, then she’s allowed to leave what she doesn’t want and still have pudding. I also don’t want to force her to eat or use pudding as a reward.

AIBU to put my foot down and say dd doesn’t have to clear her plate to have pudding? In my own house?! Or when at restaurants? In their house, ok I guess. But if I’m following their rules in their home surely they should return the gesture when in my house?!

OP posts:
Nottogetapenny · 15/07/2022 23:55

i would rather a child leave food on their plate, than being forced into eat it! Being forced into eating, in my view could cause obesity.
My husband and I have argued about this, as he feels a child should eat what is on their plate, I have at times removed food from my children’s plate, without him seeing what they had left, to save arguments!

I would expect each mum to keep to their own rules, with their own children and not enforce them on others.

Fiestyred · 17/07/2022 00:09

Wow. Reading

Fiestyred · 17/07/2022 00:13

Wow reading comprehension people. The friend did not say she had to force her child to clear her plate or else. The friend said they had to clear their plate if they want to get desert! Two totally different things. Of course if the child is full she shouldn't have to clear her plate but if she's that full she doesn't need desert.

BashfulClam · 17/07/2022 11:54

I was forced to clear my plate and still always do so which means I eat more than I should. I struggle with my weight but I can’t leave food on the plate or I feelguilty. I also struggle to recognise when I’m full.

Snugglemonkey · 17/07/2022 11:58

I do not agree with the clear you plate business i the first place, but what I would take bigger issue with is someone imposing their negative view ont my child. I decide ehat my child is allowed, in every setting. They can make choices for their children, but you must protect yours from their bullying. If they do not respect your parental authority, I would not be eating with them.

oOoRebekahoOo · 17/07/2022 18:34

As an kid my parents didn't do desert in our house because it's not healthy to eat sugar foods later in the day. Our portion size was also very reasonable for each child (5 in total) so it was rare for us not to comfortably finish our meals. Now if we were full and couldn't finish we would put the left overs in the fridge and that would be used as a snack for later. Any "desert" treat was reserved for Fridays after school, birthdays or holiday dinners such as thanksgiving and xmas. To this day I have a healthy relationship with food and portion size. I don't agree with finishing a plate entirely method but I also don't agree with pudding, high high sugar and unhealthy fats before bed. That's killer on the organs

Zombiemum1946 · 17/07/2022 18:53

Their house their rules, My house my rules end of. If its causing your dc distress then it maybe time to avoid mealtimes with them at their home. As for restaurants, she can mind her own business.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 17/07/2022 19:11

I'm not in the camp of forcing kids to clear their plates, I think it is important that everyone finds their own full level. However it's not ok to regularly leave their dinner behind in favour of pudding or to come looking for a snack 10 minutes later. My solution would be (and was) no pudding during the week and limited snacks especially when not eating food at meal times.

RockandRollsuicide · 17/07/2022 19:29

Stop her going immediately.

Reassure your dd!

This will lead to massively problematic issue's with food.
Say that you won't put dd through it and make meal times so miserable,she's getting anxious and you won't do it.

Op there is something seriously amiss with these friends. Trying to exert such control is not normal, trying to exert it in your home?? Very very large red flags
Like Arthur?

NickyChavan · 18/12/2022 15:56

I would tell your daughter to just eat as much as she wants and buy her a nice treat for pudding on the way home.
I used to be given a meal the same size as my Dad when i was only a young girl. We had to eat all the food on the plate before leaving the table. It was very stressful for me as a child.

OooScotland · 18/12/2022 16:07

YANBU

Enforcing plate clearing is damaging both physically and emotionally. Not to mention incredibly old fashioned.

My sister did this with her twins (my niece and nephew) in the 1970’s and they both grew up with a terrible relationship with food and serious weight problems requiring ongoing medical intervention.

My mother did not do this with me (I was the same age as niece and nephew) and I know how to self regulate and have a good relationship with food as an adult.

Gliere · 18/12/2022 16:16

YANBU - it seems quite and old fashioned and controlling approach, especially when she thinks she can roll it out in your house, to your children!

MIL/FIL used to do with with DH/SIL and they both have issues with food decades later. May or may not be related.

FictionalCharacter · 18/12/2022 16:20

PaddleBoardingMomma · 08/07/2022 00:25

Personally (entirely anecdotal) I believe being forced to clear your plate leads to unhealthy relationships with food and struggles with being overweight. If you begin to get used to clearing entire portions when you're not hungry, that becomes a habit. As adults we know when we are full and stop eating. We can also decide that we would like to save room for desert. How can we expect children to have a healthy relationship with food and make good choices as adults if we are force feeding them as children?

I generally know what my child has eaten during the day, she has a healthy breakfast, a packed lunch, plenty of fruit and veg. If and dinner time she tells me she's full, and there has at least been a good attempt at what's on her plate then she's welcome to leave the table. 30-45 minutes later she would be allowed a desert / fruit / ice lolly / jelly.

Totally agree. I once saw a very moving documentary about a young woman who died of anorexia. At the end they interviewed her mum and asked what she’d advise parents about reducing the risk of EDs. She said “never make food an issue”. I never forgot her.
I’ve had a lifelong weight problem and I’m sure my parents’ obsession with food was at the root of it. It was all about eating up, clearing your plate, having to eat food whether you liked it or not, mustn’t waste it etc., food and snacks constantly being foisted on me when I didn’t want them. That attitude should be long gone.

Sonyrecording · 18/12/2022 16:31

All through my childhood we had a proper lunch every day, a cooked meal and pudding. Either at home or old fashioned school dinners. There's nothing wrong with that, it's about balance. 3 of us brought up like this and none of us overweight.

Forcing a child to clear a plate is basically teaching them to over-eat. Better to give them a portion you know they can eat, then they can have more if they want it. I'd stop meals with your friend all together, whatever agreement you come to she and her DH won't be able to help themselves saying something.

RunLolaRun102 · 18/12/2022 16:38

Holymole · 08/07/2022 06:13

I'm slightly on the fence here....

I definitely don't think it's acceptable for your friends to be telling you what to do in your house.

I also agree that forcing anyone to clear their plate when they're full is an unhealthy approach. But - I've also seen kids leave veggies, claiming they're full up, but miraculously find room for cake/pudding.

You haven't really been clear here about what's going on - if your dd is regularly swerving healthy food in favour of puddings, that's not very good for her either. Is this what your friends are trying to enforce?

This.

My son is like this. Offer him a non-homecooked pudding (like a chocolate bar or yoghurt) and he won’t eat any dinner. It pisses me off. So now pudding is something he can only have after he eats most of his meal. He’s quite good at knowing his own appetite and stopping when he’s full - which is, 99% of the time, after eating his main ki

JT69 · 18/12/2022 16:40

What an out dated idea . I was made to clear my plate and had to eat stuff my parents knew I didn’t like. I once went on a dog walk still chewing some chicken as I wasn’t allowed to spit it out. It s created a weird and unhealthy relationship with food. Your friend does not get to dictate to your DCs in your home .

CloudyYellow · 18/12/2022 16:45

YANBU one of my DS was very picky as a child. Made sure it did not become an issue.

He is now over 6ft and will eat anything. Don't think food and conflict is a good combination.

caringcarer · 18/12/2022 17:20

Surely the simple answer is to serve your child less main course. It is better for her to finish eating a smaller main meal than learn it is ok to waste food. I never offered dessert to my children if they did not finish their main meal as assumed not hungry but would allow a smaller main when serving up. I would ask how much they wanted. They learned to eat what they took. So would often take a small portion then come back for more if still hungry/wanted more. I would save their dessert until later for them.

caringcarer · 18/12/2022 17:32

If a child can't finish food because she is full then she is full. This means no room for pudding. If she does miraculously have room for pudding she is not really full is she? Serve smaller portions. Then DD has a fair chance of eating all of main and if still hungry getting dessert.

BaileySharp · 18/12/2022 17:49

I think clearing plate is too much to expect but if DD makes a very poor effort to eat she won't get any pudding. We do sometimes negotiate 5 more bites type of thing as she always has room for pudding

BashfulClam · 18/12/2022 17:53

I was forced to clear my plate. I still have massive guilt if I don’t and overeat because I feel a desire are need to eat everything , I struggle with my weight now. I don’t recognise the signal that I am full and need to stop. We were forced and shouted at as children if our plate wasn’t clean.

Robin233 · 18/12/2022 18:32

Luckily all my kids had great appetite and always cleaned their plates.
As they were all different age and sizes I made sure each one had the appropriate amount - though as teens the lads were bottomless pits lol
They were all good eater - sometimes the youngest would get distracted and be too busy to eat / but not once a teen.
Often we serve tea and put the pudding out at the same time ready - there was never anything left.
All healthy weights as adults.
Absolutely never made an issue of food.
My DD at 3-4 would be eating a chocolate biscuit. She'd put it down to eat her dinner , then pick it up afterwards and eat the rest.
But it did get ti the stage where she was getting full on snacks. We simply cut back on a snacks a bit till we found the right balance.

Pashazade · 18/12/2022 19:14

Zombie thread

Maybebabyno2 · 18/12/2022 19:17

I wouldn't eat at her house again and I wouldn't be enforcing it in my house. I don't agree with force feeding kids.

seanb1128 · 27/06/2023 17:23

So much food is wasted. Why don't they just quit giving their kids more than they can eat?