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To hope Johnson doesn't resign?

999 replies

LonelyPlanetGirI · 05/07/2022 18:51

Because if he clings on until the next GE, he'll be completely unelectable and we'll be rid of the Tories.

I'm hoping he digs his heels in just like he always has, even though by rights he should be fucking off with his tail between his legs.

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DdraigGoch · 05/07/2022 23:47

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/07/2022 22:03

Have you been living under a rock @otherbookmarks? Under the Conservative Government:
The number of male bodied folk in women's single sex spaces has increased massively.
Women in prisons and at least 1 hospital have been raped.
They have refused to make misogyny a Hate crime.
They have refused to enshrine UK women's right to abortion.
The UK now has its first openly Trans MP. Another dodgy as fuck Conservative.
The party seems to be full of sexual deviants and criminals.
Rape is practically legal.
And that's before you look at how their policies, like Austerity, are particularly detrimental to women.

The Tory Party is not a friend to women.

The Conservatives have negligently let women's rights slip (though most of it was by Lib Dem ministers in the Coalition). They now appear to be going "hang on a minute". Senior figures such as Sajid Javid have pushed back. Plenty of feminists have reservations about making misogyny a hate crime

Labour/Lib Dems/SNP/Greens/Plaid on the other hand are enthusiastically paddling towards self-ID. They've got their own sexual deviants (I note that most of the Tory predators preyed against men/boys so are less likely to be perving in the women's toilets anyway).

The Conservatives are no friends to women, it is true. But I don't see the other parties calling for safe spaces, or for sexual predators to get stiffer sentences. So they're no friends to women either.

Believe me, I'd love to have an easier task choosing who to vote for at the next election. I'd love to see a manifesto with clear pledges to remove males from women's prisons, to crack down on all sorts of crime, to stop trying and failing to repair a broken NHS and copy our European neighbours, to stop airport expansion, to put back together our fragmented and dysfunctional railways, to invest in energy security...

But I don't see it. One party or the other may make hints in the right direction on a given one of those issues, but in practice they just offer more of the same. I don't have any tribal tendencies, I'd vote for any party which in my view would change this country for the better. At the moment, that's none of them.

theworldhas · 05/07/2022 23:48

BJ and his government have earned the contempt of every decent person in the country. Every single day he remains in office is another win for Keir Starmer.

Eeksteek · 05/07/2022 23:48

mooneagle · 05/07/2022 23:34

Boris has got such a brass neck… if that many people in my work thought I was that incompetent I would be too embarrassed to show up.

Where do these public schoolboys get their shamelessness from?!

They inherit it from their parents, along with a lot of money and a title. Boris thinks you get to be PM the same way. Your great grandad was, and now you are. Sorted. Oh, you have turn up, but the show is essentially run for your benefit, you can help yourself from the till and the stockroom, shag the secretaries, have long boozy lunches and go home early if you say the right things to keep the workers happy (but busy and tired enough not to notice)

SushiShopSearch · 05/07/2022 23:53

Boris is one of the few that has the balls to know what a woman is. The other parties have been utterly pathetic.

theworldhas · 05/07/2022 23:55

How anyone can listen to Boris Johnson mumble and bluster through PMQs and his 10th scandal while being forensically ripped apart by Keir Starmer - an intelligent, decent self made man with moderate policies versus the extreme austerity, and self harm of Brexit etc. brought to you by the silver spoon bullshit artist, moral sewer BJ and his bunch of sycophants and STILL say “I don’t know who to vote for”. “They’re all the same”. It beggars belief!

Blossomtoes · 05/07/2022 23:59

SushiShopSearch · 05/07/2022 23:53

Boris is one of the few that has the balls to know what a woman is. The other parties have been utterly pathetic.

Oh do give over. He may say that but we all know he says anything he thinks will benefit him. He doesn’t give a stuff about women.

DdraigGoch · 06/07/2022 00:01

theworldhas · 05/07/2022 23:48

BJ and his government have earned the contempt of every decent person in the country. Every single day he remains in office is another win for Keir Starmer.

And yet Starmer is doing all he can to make us not want to vote for him.

Did you see how Kay Burley didn't know what to do when Mick Lynch answered a question with a straight answer? That's how rare it is for a public figure to be honest. That's what we need in a leader, not someone who was (as a lawyer) trained in the art of not giving a straight answer.

dropthevipers · 06/07/2022 00:02

theworldhas · 05/07/2022 23:48

BJ and his government have earned the contempt of every decent person in the country. Every single day he remains in office is another win for Keir Starmer.

That would be the same Starmer "saying that only women have have cervix should not be said" then? Lord knows Boris is a fucking bad joke but can you vote the tin foil hat gang currently constituting the labour front bench?

Blossomtoes · 06/07/2022 00:04

dropthevipers · 06/07/2022 00:02

That would be the same Starmer "saying that only women have have cervix should not be said" then? Lord knows Boris is a fucking bad joke but can you vote the tin foil hat gang currently constituting the labour front bench?

I’ll vote for whichever party stands the best chance of getting rid of this lot. If my ballot paper had a box for Anyone Except a Tory I’d put my X in it.

gnilliwdog · 06/07/2022 00:05

I don't know. Maybe some in this country looked at Johnson and think 'that's how I want to be. Doing what I want and getting away with it, pissing on the little folk who all adore me anyway...' And they look at Starmer and think 'I don't want to be like him. Boring and well behaved...' Then they voted for who represented their inner ideal self, because they will never get to live that life but it's a bit of wish fulfilment for a moment. I know that's a silly bit of armchair psychology, but I can't understand why people voted for him and i have to rationalise to myself somehow.

ilovesooty · 06/07/2022 00:07

Blossomtoes · 05/07/2022 23:59

Oh do give over. He may say that but we all know he says anything he thinks will benefit him. He doesn’t give a stuff about women.

He cares about one person - Johnson. He doesn't give a flying fuck about people, including women.

Booklover3 · 06/07/2022 00:18

One of the few that has the balls to know what a woman is…

well that takes the biscuit doesn’t it?

Johnson doesn’t give a fig what a woman is… as long as he gets his end away.

Do you honestly think he cares about woman's rights? He doesn’t care about anyones rights except his own. He wants to scrap the human rights bill!

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/07/2022 00:19

The Conservatives have negligently let women's rights slip (though most of it was by Lib Dem ministers in the coalition.

No it was the Conservative government under Cameron, but more so, Theresa May and her plans for Self ID and GRA Reform. PM Johnson has had the power to roll that stuff back, but hasn't. We still have male bodied people in women's spaces. Women are still having the cops at the door for staying stuff. Sometimes those complaints to the police come from Tory MPs. Brave women are in court fighting for privacy, security, dignity and their jobs.

Meanwhile they have rejected laws to protect women. The Conservative Party haven't negligently let women's rights slip, they have actively eroded them.

Somethingneedstochange · 06/07/2022 00:31

Yes but in theory I think he knows he's hanging by a thread.

Somethingneedstochange · 06/07/2022 00:31

Urgent help required.
Does anyone know where I can get hold of a load of cardboard boxes on really short notice? A bloke I know has to move house today, and doesn’t have much time to prepare.
If anyone can help, could you please drop any boxes round to Boris’ house? It’s 10 Downing Street, London, SW1A 2AA.

Florenz · 06/07/2022 00:34

Both major political parties in this country are in a terrible state at the moment, the standard of people that are becoming politicians is at it's lowest ebb. I honestly don't know who I'd vote for as I seriously do not trust Labour at all, there are some serious extremists within that party and I don't have much faith in Starmer to keep them in line. If Labour could just concentrate on the basics and remove the crazies or at least keep them far out out of the limelight, I think they'd walk the next election, as it is I think the Tories will win again, with or without Boris in charge.

MangyInseam · 06/07/2022 00:40

I think democracy works better when you have two good candidates offering some different views and policy approaches.

So, yes, YABU.

If Labour wants to be elected they need to try and actually get people to want to vote for them.

GoldenSongbird · 06/07/2022 00:41

He's done so much damage to the country. The longer he is in power, the harder it will be to claw back anything important eg trust in democracy; standards in public office; the NHS, etc. I genuinely don't think we can afford for him to stay a moment longer either financially, socially, culturally or psychologically. It impacts the psyche of the nation when the PM is a habitual liar with no principles.

Ladyof2022 · 06/07/2022 00:55

Be careful what you wish for. All the Labour leaders refuse to say what a woman is, have pledged allegiance to the trans flag, and have said they will remove all women's sex based rights.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/07/2022 00:55

Florenz · 06/07/2022 00:34

Both major political parties in this country are in a terrible state at the moment, the standard of people that are becoming politicians is at it's lowest ebb. I honestly don't know who I'd vote for as I seriously do not trust Labour at all, there are some serious extremists within that party and I don't have much faith in Starmer to keep them in line. If Labour could just concentrate on the basics and remove the crazies or at least keep them far out out of the limelight, I think they'd walk the next election, as it is I think the Tories will win again, with or without Boris in charge.

We are mid-term @Florenz, you don't need to worry about the opposition. They are not in government. In the time between now and the next GE, they may shift on stuff. Their leadership could change completely. They don't really matter atm.🤷‍♀️

The Conservative Party are in power. They have been in power for a long time and will be in power for some time yet.

DdraigGoch · 06/07/2022 01:51

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/07/2022 00:55

We are mid-term @Florenz, you don't need to worry about the opposition. They are not in government. In the time between now and the next GE, they may shift on stuff. Their leadership could change completely. They don't really matter atm.🤷‍♀️

The Conservative Party are in power. They have been in power for a long time and will be in power for some time yet.

Unless the opposition pull their finger out and start acting like a government in waiting, the Conservatives will just get re-elected in spite of everything.

I see Keir Starmer and I just see yet another politician who won't give a straight answer to a question, and won't declare a position on any given issue until he's certain of which way the wind is blowing.

DdraigGoch · 06/07/2022 01:56

I think that I'll have to vote for the only sensible party going:
www.omrlp.com/

GoldenSongbird · 06/07/2022 02:28

It would be lovely if we could just focus on Boris possibly finally getting ousted. He has done untold damage to the position of PM. And his party need to depose him. If they don't. If they hobble on instead. Then they'll keep going down a path of leaders like Boris and that will be a bloody disaster for the country because any party being led by an unprincipled charlatan has an adverse affect on all parties and all politics.

Eeksteek · 06/07/2022 02:58

Ladyof2022 · 06/07/2022 00:55

Be careful what you wish for. All the Labour leaders refuse to say what a woman is, have pledged allegiance to the trans flag, and have said they will remove all women's sex based rights.

Don’t be so dramatic. Nobody has ‘pledged allegiance’ to anything. Labour want to treat people like people, no matter their gender and the Torys want to treat people like scum, no matter their gender. Which is it to be?

If you are finding trans issues problematic, why? The Tories are in power. Why haven’t they put a stop to this nonsense? Why does it matter what KS thinks women are? Bozo has the reins, he can make these ‘women’ do…..whatever it is that will make you all happy about them. These women became women under Tory power. These ‘children’ having ‘body-part altering surgery’ or ‘life-changing puberty drugs’ had it on a Tory NHS. If they’re under 12, they haven’t ever lived under labour! The rapes in Women’s prisons took place because it is TORY POLICY to place trans women in women’s prisons. The trans women winning races are winning races because the Tories have not legislated to prevent the from entering. Why?

They have been in power for twelve years. If trans women are a problem, the Tories created it. So it looks they don’t know what a woman is, doesn’t it? Or maybe they just didn’t give a flying fuck about women at all until it looked like distracting people from their shit show of a government and winning a few desperately needed votes from women, despite being institutionally misogynist.

Kidsaretryingtodestroyme · 06/07/2022 03:45

I’m starting to think most of the ‘at least he knows what a woman is’ posts are from bots. They are almost always similar in style and structure.

Pointless trying to debate with them as they’re intent is to muddy the waters and make this about opposition parties to deflect from the shitshow now in power.

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