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To hope Johnson doesn't resign?

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LonelyPlanetGirI · 05/07/2022 18:51

Because if he clings on until the next GE, he'll be completely unelectable and we'll be rid of the Tories.

I'm hoping he digs his heels in just like he always has, even though by rights he should be fucking off with his tail between his legs.

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AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 19:18

Provenceinthesummer · 07/07/2022 18:20

This has worked out brilliantly for Johnson in the end.

He gets to enjoy chequers, an easy ride over the summer. He has played a blinder! I genuinely think Boris is laughing all the way to the bank now - he is set to earn millions now - and on reflection he will be leaving just at the moment when the economic shit hits the fan, it is going to be so bad by the autumn - and he hands it all over to some other sucker and walks off being the PM that got brexit over the line, stayed with us in the dark days of the pandemic and stood by Ukraine. All the terrible stuff coming down the line, he will long long gone.

No wonder Carrie is smiling - the winner really does take it all, now they get to enjoy their lives with rich pickings and he will be the most memorable PM in history for sure.

Well, I suppose his biography will get some traction as a work of fiction. His previous published works amply demonstrate that accurate research certainly isn't his strong point, and we know we won't be able to believe a word he says about his own life and career unless it is double verified by others.

Roussette · 07/07/2022 19:20

SueSaid · 07/07/2022 19:14

'have no idea why you ever denied liking BJ.'

Did I deny liking him? I thought I always said I wasn't his 'fangirl' and he wasn't my hero, but yes obviously i liked him. Also I've said repeatedly he was better than the alternative in 2019 as we all know. His party chose him as leader not me.

I'm not going down the whataboutery route. Whenever I've said to you that you were a huge fan, you always denied it. At one point you even got as far as saying he should probably go.

I wish I could find your posts on this but with the new search functions, it's impossible!

But now, you are a huge fan, can't stand anyone else doing the job but him

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 19:21

SueSaid · 07/07/2022 18:48

That we know of. He doesn't seem to have media moles and party backstabbers ready to drop him in it and make crap up does he.

This episode could well be a snapshot of the wilful disregard for the restrictions in place at the time. We don't know do we. If only Pippa and Brand were a bit more even with their 'sources'.

Are you seriously saying that those 126 FPNs are the product of made up crap? Why haven't the recipients contested that? Do you have any evidence?

Cornettoninja · 07/07/2022 19:22

I have no idea why you ever denied liking BJ. You're his biggest fan. You did say once, if it's proven he broke the law, he should go

ahh, there’s a blast from the past. Wasn’t it all pretence of playing wide eyed devils advocate because it was ‘just a couple of drinks’ and ‘a bit of cake’ but if the law deemed it illegal then it would be justified?

Then FPN’s got issued left right and centre on the flimsiest investigations in history that allowed the suspects to just fill in a questionnaire. Then apparently the police weren’t the final authority on the matter?

good times.

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 19:34

'No wonder Carrie is smiling - the winner really does take it all, now they get to enjoy their lives with rich pickings and he will be the most memorable PM in history for sure.'

Certainly memorable as the worst PM ever. I suspect Cameron will be forever grateful for the fact that Johnson has beaten him to that title.

Carrie is probably smiling because she knows she won't be putting up with him for much longer.

SueSaid · 07/07/2022 19:36

'Whenever I've said to you that you were a huge fan, you always denied it.'

Yes but you've just said i always denied liking him, I didn't. I objected to all the silly misogynistic 'fangirl' crap.

SueSaid · 07/07/2022 19:37

'Carrie is probably smiling because she knows she won't be putting up with him for much longer.'

Oh right so we've gone from an outrageous wedding party in chequers (the cheek of it) to they're splitting up Grin.

Roussette · 07/07/2022 19:39

I have no idea. I remember what I remember. A while back, I thought you'd gone off him somewhat and felt he perhaps should go. Now it's different and you are very much mourning the loss of him as PM, and not thinking him going might be a good thing for the party.

Anyway, it's all a bit irrelevant isn't it. He's going. God knows when but he is. #WorstPM is trending on Twitter.

Changechangychange · 07/07/2022 19:39

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 19:34

'No wonder Carrie is smiling - the winner really does take it all, now they get to enjoy their lives with rich pickings and he will be the most memorable PM in history for sure.'

Certainly memorable as the worst PM ever. I suspect Cameron will be forever grateful for the fact that Johnson has beaten him to that title.

Carrie is probably smiling because she knows she won't be putting up with him for much longer.

She’s smiling because she didn’t sign up to marry a pauper on £180k a year. He’ll now be trying to outdo Blair for highest post-PM earnings, so she can afford her own golden wallpaper.

She won’t leave now when the money is just about to start rolling in. I’ll be fascinated to see which celebrities she invites to the Chequers wedding, and whether she can get a Hello cover out of it.

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SueSaid · 07/07/2022 19:45

'I thought you'd gone off him somewhat and felt he perhaps should go.'

Think i said if we ever saw the 'waaaaaayyy better photos than that' that Cummings promised demonstrating an actual party he should go, but we never did did we, just sarnies and a jug of OJ in the office at work.

'But now, you are a huge fan, can't stand anyone else doing the job but him'

As I've said maybe Zahawi, or Wallace at a push. Even Truss she doesn’t take any crap. Not quitter Sajid (who could rely on him if the going got tough!) and certainly not the Baker/Ellwood/Hunt cardboard cutouts.

Cornettoninja · 07/07/2022 19:52

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Roussette · 07/07/2022 20:07

I’ll be fascinated to see which celebrities she invites to the Chequers wedding, and whether she can get a Hello cover out of it

I'm tempted to hire a light plane that can fly over pulling a banner spelling out what's trending on Twitter
#WorstPM
Grin

jgw1 · 07/07/2022 20:20

SueSaid · 07/07/2022 19:01

'No wonder Carrie is smiling - the winner really does take it all, now they get to enjoy their lives with rich pickings and he will be the most memorable PM in history for sure.'

True. Whilst pissing themselves laughing at quitter Sajid or wet Ellwood/Baker/Hunt trying to run the show.

@JaniieJones Can you explain something to me?

Sajid has twice been appointed to Cabinet posts by Johnson, if he is as bad as you make out, do you think that calls into question Johnson's judgement?

Also, do you know how many time Johnson has quit families with his own children in?

RagzRebooted · 07/07/2022 23:08

Provenceinthesummer · 07/07/2022 18:20

This has worked out brilliantly for Johnson in the end.

He gets to enjoy chequers, an easy ride over the summer. He has played a blinder! I genuinely think Boris is laughing all the way to the bank now - he is set to earn millions now - and on reflection he will be leaving just at the moment when the economic shit hits the fan, it is going to be so bad by the autumn - and he hands it all over to some other sucker and walks off being the PM that got brexit over the line, stayed with us in the dark days of the pandemic and stood by Ukraine. All the terrible stuff coming down the line, he will long long gone.

No wonder Carrie is smiling - the winner really does take it all, now they get to enjoy their lives with rich pickings and he will be the most memorable PM in history for sure.

Excellent point. Boris has won, hasn't he?
The bastard.

DdraigGoch · 07/07/2022 23:18

Roussette · 07/07/2022 14:52

Exactly. What if he does properly resign (don't think he has yet), what's to stop him visiting Ukraine anyway?
Or feeding secrets here and there.
Or gathering info for a book

I don't trust him one little bit.

I think Chris Bryant is on it. He won't let this Lebedev link fade. BJ did what Patel did with Israel. Break the Ministerial Code (not that the MC hasn't been debased since BJ has been PM...)

On another subject... there were very few supporters out there listening to his resig / not resig speech.
Wife, baby, Dorries, JRM, think I saw, other random MInisters not well known. Oh... and Steve Bray playing 'Bye Bye Boris' with an army of supporters!

Any chance that Bray will get bored and get a job once Boris has gone?

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 23:45

Think i said if we ever saw the 'waaaaaayyy better photos than that' that Cummings promised demonstrating an actual party he should go, but we never did did we, just sarnies and a jug of OJ in the office at work.

To say nothing of several bottles of wine.

The logic of the argument that only photos are acceptable evidence is, um, interesting.

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 23:48

@JaniieJones, you seem to have overlooked the question of whether you think Johnson's conduct over the Pincher saga was OK?

jgw1 · 08/07/2022 06:29

AmaryIlis · 07/07/2022 23:48

@JaniieJones, you seem to have overlooked the question of whether you think Johnson's conduct over the Pincher saga was OK?

If you do get an answer let me know, and I will try asking @JaniieJones why they think it is acceptable for a 56 year old to have a birthday party when millions of children could not. Lets not though confuse them with two questions at once.

Cornettoninja · 08/07/2022 06:37

Excellent point. Boris has won, hasn't he?

The bastard

He’ll never win the legacy though. He’ll style it out, but it hurts.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 08/07/2022 06:43

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jgw1 · 08/07/2022 06:45

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'morning Boris. Good to see you still know what a woman has.

ClaudineClare · 08/07/2022 07:24

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I don't like the use of cunt as an insult, but this much sums Boris up. If only the Tories had cottoned on before they inflicted him on us.

ClaudineClare · 08/07/2022 07:31

I don't think Johnson has won, he will never win in life because he will never be truly happy. He will go on squandering every privilege and opportunity that is handed to him on a plate (such as an 80 seat majority). He will go on burning through relationships with women. He will go on being unable to admit his fuck ups.

I only hope he has decent relationships with his kids and isn't passing on his extreme emotional dysfunction to them.

ClaudineClare · 08/07/2022 07:32

@jgw 😁