To hope Johnson doesn't resign?

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Because if he clings on until the next GE, he'll be completely unelectable and we'll be rid of the Tories.

I'm hoping he digs his heels in just like he always has, even though by rights he should be fucking off with his tail between his legs.

The Tory party members don't support Boris

I thought they all thought he was a nice "young man" who would get Brexit done.

Where I live, it's all ladies of a certain age and income bracket who vote for anyone who wears a blue rosette. That won't change.

Please don't patronise me. There's plenty of hope for me thanks.

I see a weak man who has form for quitting making a long winded personal speech, not a statement.

Lets have another vote if we don't like the result of the first one.

Now where have we heard that before and been told it's undemocratic and "you lost, get over it". The irony.

Quite. Some advisory votes are more sacred than others.

Boris has overseen a government that is responsible for one of the highest death rates in peacetime

We've gone through a global pandemic. Of course there have been many deaths. Are people serious?

There is and has been lots to report on but it is reduced to sound bites and glossed over.
As I said I don’t really watch live tv but remember a few months ago the news programme spent so much time on partygate that the Ukraine invasion had about a 4 second slot before the credits rolled.

It might be harsh to hear if you or those that were close to you had adhered to lockdown and you didn’t visit close friends and relatives who succumbed to the disease.
but I don’t think the vast majority of the general public are interested in who was partying during lockdown or have got so bored of the wall to wall news coverage on it they don’t care anymore

A couple of friends who lost people close to them that they couldn’t visit were initially horrified about Partygate but now are more worried about what the media isn’t reporting on.

You have to wonder why the news reports have the same stuff in every single day and the masses are lapping it up.

I am more worried about what a dying psychopath in charge of nuclear weapons and a country fed stories about Nazis and Nazi invasions will do than who has or hadn’t resigned from government because they hope to further their career.

Wouldn’t be surprised if Boris threatens to hold an election if they try to change the rules and oust him.
For a vast majority of MPs they have mortgages to pay and children and families to feed and the potential of losing their income during a global recession could end up blowing up the plans of those who resigned to go after the PMs job and don’t need the MPs income.

Ultimately I think it was only to be expected that if Boris is openly supporting Ukraine then he had to go. I suspect that he won’t be the last leader of a country that has been shown in the media helping Ukraine who will be ousted from power in the near future. I hope I am wrong but I think people are so used to not questioning what they see and hear they won’t see the connections.

Someone is obviously lined up now wonder who it is ....

I really don’t think Boris Johnson cares that much the house is laughing at him he thinks of a different wave length and thinks he is superior to everyone

You call it patronising. Your prerogative. I call it being truthful. There you go...

I'm amazed you couldn't take one thing from Javid's statement, not one. I know true blue voters in RL.
Even they know BJ is the wrong person in the wrong job.

It might be harsh to hear if you or those that were close to you had adhered to lockdown and you didn’t visit close friends and relatives who succumbed to the disease.
but I don’t think the vast majority of the general public are interested in who was partying during lockdown or have got so bored of the wall to wall news coverage on it they don’t care anymore

Polling shows the public cared deeply about partygate and the continued lying about it afterwards was massively responsible for tory polling decline.

Your other point about johnson being ousted because he supports Ukraine is so demented it doesn't merit any further discussion.

I'm amazed you couldn't take one thing from Javid's statement, not one'

It was supposed to be a statement I believe, rather he took the opportunity to launch a personal attack in public knowing full well Johnson couldn't respond. As I said a weak man with form for quitting.

You do know that note, ot similar, is a long tradition during a change of government. The Tories just used it for political advantage. Even before Covid we were worse off financially after austerity.

Ultimately I think it was only to be expected that if Boris is openly supporting Ukraine then he had to go. I suspect that he won’t be the last leader of a country that has been shown in the media helping Ukraine who will be ousted from power in the near future. I hope I am wrong but I think people are so used to not questioning what they see and hear they won’t see the connections

So are you saying Putin is behind it all? What connections can you see that the rest of us can't?

I think you'll find Occam's Razor is a more realistic explanation - Tory MPs know their seats are at risk if they continue to support the pound shop Berlusconi currently squatting in Downing Street.

I get your point. You didn't listen to what he said because you think he's 'a weak man'.

Shame.

Last time he quit was a matter of principle. He was told to sack all his Treasury advisers and he wouldn't. So he quit. I don't call that weak.

Well the Tories have blamed Labour for the global financial crash for the last 12 years now, so why not? Live by the sword.

V good speach from savid, especially when he said he didn't quit, even when members of his community said don't marry the "love of his life" 😘

'I know true blue voters in RL.Even they know BJ is the wrong person in the wrong job.'

Also just to correct you I'm not a 'true blue voter' I'll happily voter Labour if they ever manage to have a credible front bench.

BJ has been hounded by the media for 2yrs, as I've said his biggest crime wasn't having cake on his birthday when everyone else was wearing hair shirts in solitary confinement rather he got Brexit done and the msm have never forgiven him.

If he resigns I won't lose any sleep over it I'm just glad we had him in post the last 2yrs.

I agree @TooBigForMyBoots that's a risk and a big one but at least she would get push back from within her party and with her cabinet because there are so many in the parliamentary Conservative party with gender critical beliefs. She would not have a free hand at legislation against women as a sex class.

If however Labour had a majority of their own or worse one made up from the rabidly trans-extreme LibDems, Greens and SNP coalition then there would a be free-for-all against women's sex based rights with just Rosie Duffield standing up for us.

'V good speach from savid, especially when he said he didn't quit'

Except he did. Twice.

Polling shows the public cared deeply about partygate and the continued lying about it afterwards was massively responsible for tory polling decline

I didn’t know there had been polling on how deeply people cared.
The only polling I saw was about local policies.

Boris has overseen a government that is responsible for one of the highest death rates in peacetime

That would happen in a global pandemic.
This is exactly what I mean about people not making connections.

BJ has been hounded by the media for 2yrs, as I've said his biggest crime wasn't having cake on his birthday when everyone else was wearing hair shirts in solitary confinement rather he got Brexit done and the msm have never forgiven him

Yeah, the Sun, Mail, Telegraph and Express, the biggest selling papers in the country, never forgave him for the brexit they rallied so hard against. Bloody mainstreeeem meeja.

I thought they all thought he was a nice "young man" who would get Brexit done

Well, he is quite young and he did get the job done.

Others' success is a very difficult pill to swallow for some people

To have any chance of decent political sphere we need at least two good but distinct parties. Not a government that is so shit that an any arsewipe of an opposition sneaks in through the gap.

By hounded by the media you mean held to account?

We don't live in a dictatorship..Yet. Not all the media can be as partisan to the PM as the Daily Mail, Rupert Murdoch, GB News and the other right wing rags.

Corbyn would have got it far worse.

He's been propped up for 2 years by a media that enabled him in the first place.