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AIBU to think Adel needs to learn to read a room?

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Rinoachicken · 03/07/2022 10:25

So she cancelled her Vegas thing 24hrs before. Tickets that would have cost thousands were not refunded. It was too late for many to cancel hotels, flights. They lost that money, and that annual leave time.

She never gave a clear explanation except ‘it wasn’t ready. Then total radio silence on when (if ever) it would actually happen.

Then she comes over and does an exclusive show for rich celebrities. The plebs can watch on TV though. Still now word when people who had Vegas tickets would be able to either use those tickets or get refunds.

Then at the weekend she did a gig at Hyde Park, that was simple, not flashy, and it was observed by commentators that this sort of stripped back simple staging would have been more than acceptable to anyone stuck out in Vegas so the tickets they couldn’t use - it’s clearly possible for her to perform that way, she’s seems to generally perform simply. That people wanted to hear her sing, and would not have cared it it was just her on a stage with a piano and a couple of backing singers (like it was in Hyde Park in fact). So really just poses more questions.

And now she has gone on the record to say how much she had to ‘grieve’ for the Vegas show, how hard she found it, and that it is 100% happening this year.

This year. When there’s been no reason recoups indication of this. So people that are still thousands of pounds out of pocket from January, and have no annual leave left to book another trip to Vegas, let alone afford that with such short notice. Looks like they are the ones that will be ‘grieving’.

I used to really love her music - now when she comes on the radio I can’t help but think ‘oh shut up you whiney twat, you have NO idea’.

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pippakins · 03/07/2022 15:19

@Useranon1 Harry Styles' 2020 concert was postponed because of lockdown, rescheduled for 2021 and then postponed again, because of legal restrictions on gatherings. It was subsequently cancelled but ticket holders were given a refund (which came through with absolutely no delay) and offered a place in the pre-sale for the new tour. I am not a Harry Styles fan, that's my daughter, but it was in no way the same as Adele's cancellation.

UrsulaPandress · 03/07/2022 15:21

She’d never been my cup of tea. And aren’t all her songs the same?

However the comment upthread about Judy Garland has brought a tear to my eye.

Rinoachicken · 03/07/2022 15:23

So glad it’s not just me!

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Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 15:23

pippakins · 03/07/2022 15:19

@Useranon1 Harry Styles' 2020 concert was postponed because of lockdown, rescheduled for 2021 and then postponed again, because of legal restrictions on gatherings. It was subsequently cancelled but ticket holders were given a refund (which came through with absolutely no delay) and offered a place in the pre-sale for the new tour. I am not a Harry Styles fan, that's my daughter, but it was in no way the same as Adele's cancellation.

I'm talking about his subsequent cancellations in sept 2021. But anyway, none of the refund protocol was known at the time, and yet the headline for Harry was "Harry cancels show as safety comes first" and Lewis' was "Lewis reschedules all shows to focus on album". Adele's headlines were "most unreliable diva", "staggeringly rich prima Donna" "is she ever not sobbing".

That's before anything was known beyond it had been forced to cancel due to not being ready. Misogyny

Rinoachicken · 03/07/2022 15:24

And to the PP who sniped at me spelling her name wrong…like there’s no chance that a typo?! 🙄

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covilha · 03/07/2022 15:27

@maddiemookins16mum - YES! Jane McDonald, every time, a true star and a top performer.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 03/07/2022 15:30

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 15:23

I'm talking about his subsequent cancellations in sept 2021. But anyway, none of the refund protocol was known at the time, and yet the headline for Harry was "Harry cancels show as safety comes first" and Lewis' was "Lewis reschedules all shows to focus on album". Adele's headlines were "most unreliable diva", "staggeringly rich prima Donna" "is she ever not sobbing".

That's before anything was known beyond it had been forced to cancel due to not being ready. Misogyny

Harry didn't cancel anything because it wasn't ready.
Covid is a legitimate reason, most of the world was cancelled!

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 03/07/2022 15:33

George Ezra cancelled for chicken pox in February, he's already played the rescheduled tour, plus another few dates on top of that.

Cheeseandlobster · 03/07/2022 15:33

www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-62010158

And here she is whining about poor her 🙄

dropthevipers · 03/07/2022 15:33

1000Pieces · 03/07/2022 14:58

I mean... no. Not really. It's tasteless but it's really not comparable.

no, not comparable, but similar level of crass?

Oblomov22 · 03/07/2022 15:35

So self entitled. I can't stand hearing about her anymore.

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 15:36

Harry didn't cancel anything because it wasn't ready.
Covid is a legitimate reason, most of the world was cancelled!

I know!!!! I said that in my posts. My point was he cancelled due to covid in his team. And she cancelled because it wasn't ready - due to covid in her team!!!

Blinkingbatshit · 03/07/2022 15:41

so desperate for privacy that she uses intimate conversations with her young son on her album….. what about HIS privacy🙄

ExitChasedByABee · 03/07/2022 15:41

thebellagio · 03/07/2022 12:32

I think the location was the biggest issue.

if she was cancelling a London residency or something like that, most people would probably be relatively local or only taking one day off work, so yes a cancellation would be a pain but not a huge issue.

Whereas for Vegas, people would have bought tickets then booked a holiday around her show, so the flights/hotel/annual leave making it more of a game changer in terms of hassle/outrage. the fact that she’s never acknowledged that fact or even apologised to her fans for it shows a distinct lack of respect or awareness

When you put it like that, in makes sense why some people would be outraged. That’s a lot of money to spend and not get what you paid for Sad

FiveHargreeves · 03/07/2022 15:43

She's not a cope-er is she?

She can't seem to crack on with anything or look on the bright side of any situation. Everything is just doom and gloom.

CantStartaFireWithoutaSpark · 03/07/2022 15:46

Agree she’s an irresponsible idiot with her fans.
she lost me when she put up that cancellation video crying. Looking for sympathy. Get a grip

Frazzled2207 · 03/07/2022 15:49

I’ve never understood the hype about her at all. Yes she can sing well but is
not outstanding by any measure.
happens to have had a small number of excellent songs written for her in the past, and probably at the right time too. A bit of talent, but mostly good luck.

I hope her fans never again go to extreme lengths to see her, only to be disappointed (again)

DangerouslyBored · 03/07/2022 16:12

Ugh, she is not likeable at all. Her whiny voice always gets turned off if it comes on my radio. Depressing as fuck.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind1 · 03/07/2022 16:46

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 15:36

Harry didn't cancel anything because it wasn't ready.
Covid is a legitimate reason, most of the world was cancelled!

I know!!!! I said that in my posts. My point was he cancelled due to covid in his team. And she cancelled because it wasn't ready - due to covid in her team!!!

No he didn't cancel in April 2020 because of Covid in his team, it was lockdown.
Her gig set wasn't quite what she wanted, nothing stopping her going out there and singing.
They aren't comparable, not just Harry Styles, but many people who have managed not to do what she did.
In fact all of them, she's got the headlines because she's the only one who was bloody awful about it, and has now defended it.
Sheesh.

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 17:22

Ok clearly a lot of Harry styles fans on here.

Try these:
"Ed Sheeran cancels show due to 'scheduling conflict'"
"Aerosmith cancel gigs as singer goes into rehab"
"Eric church cancels gig to watch Duke game"
"Eric Clapton cancels tour show due to 'mass hysteria' (covid vaccines)"
Maroon 5 have just cancelled all their summer Canada tour with no reason given 🤷🏻‍♀️

Meanwhile Adele headlines at the time (before anything was known beyond her tearful video)
"Is she ever not sobbing"
"Is Adele music's most unreliable diva?"
"Adele branded a diva"
"Adele's meltdown on Las Vegas"

The issue is not whether artists have good reasons for cancelling or not, the issue is that a successful woman has been torn to shreds over her weight, her decisions, her career, her family, her privacy etc etc in a way we just don't do to men. And that press and media rhetoric is absorbed by people and shows up on threads like this where you all can't wait to slag someone off.

ReeseWitherfork · 03/07/2022 17:32

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 17:22

Ok clearly a lot of Harry styles fans on here.

Try these:
"Ed Sheeran cancels show due to 'scheduling conflict'"
"Aerosmith cancel gigs as singer goes into rehab"
"Eric church cancels gig to watch Duke game"
"Eric Clapton cancels tour show due to 'mass hysteria' (covid vaccines)"
Maroon 5 have just cancelled all their summer Canada tour with no reason given 🤷🏻‍♀️

Meanwhile Adele headlines at the time (before anything was known beyond her tearful video)
"Is she ever not sobbing"
"Is Adele music's most unreliable diva?"
"Adele branded a diva"
"Adele's meltdown on Las Vegas"

The issue is not whether artists have good reasons for cancelling or not, the issue is that a successful woman has been torn to shreds over her weight, her decisions, her career, her family, her privacy etc etc in a way we just don't do to men. And that press and media rhetoric is absorbed by people and shows up on threads like this where you all can't wait to slag someone off.

So what she did wasn’t a shitty thing?

Useranon1 · 03/07/2022 17:36

@ReeseWitherfork try reading that last paragraph

goldfinchonthelawn · 03/07/2022 17:36

thebellagio · 03/07/2022 11:13

The turning point for me was when she included her sons voice on her latest album. She had always been so private about him and I had huge respect for that. But to monetise a child asking why mummy and daddy don’t love each other anymore just felt so personal and intrusive I felt really uncomfortable listening to it

I had no idea she'd done that. That's grotesque.

latetothefisting · 03/07/2022 17:39

waterrat · 03/07/2022 12:01

I have never forgotten her saying she feels murderous when she sees her tax bill - she said 'why should I pay it when state schools are shit'

Love - paying taxes keeps this country policed, protected, educated, children supported (well - it would if the tories weren't cutting it all) - it's a privilege to pay taxes - and without them you wouldn't be safe to record music - have a look at a war torn tax free country like somalia if you want a comparison

Yep - not to mention the fact that her education at the Brit school was entirely funded by the UK govt - e.g. tax payers! You'd think if you were that successful because you were lucky enough to have a free specialist education you'd WANT to pay something back?

I also agree that the Titanic party was incredibly tasteless and couldn't understand why there wasn't more outcry about it. Just have an 'edwardian' themed party if you want to dress up like that.

Snoozer11 · 03/07/2022 17:42

She had form for cancelling shows at the last minute long before the Vegas fiasco.

I'm not a fan of her music although I acknowledge she was refreshing with her first two albums.

I don't like her.

I'm not a prude but I've noticed at festivals and when she does perform, she's swearing constantly. She once even had a young girl on stage with her, then as soon as the girl climbed down she was back to "fucking" this and "fucking" that.

I also find her discourse around her marriage nauseating. She really wanted it to work, she tried, her husband was useless etc etc. But she was married one year and divorced the next.

Her demeanour and attitude is awful during interviews. If she was 19 then maybe. But she's in well in her 30s now. She needs to grow up.