Should a male teacher have done this?

[mycatisannoying]

During a residential school trip, enter a girls' shared dorm to wake them up?
To my mind it's a safeguarding issue, and there was also a female teacher on the trip who could have done it.
I wanted to seek others' opinions before raising it.
Thanks.

It’s in appropriate and I’ve never known it to happen on a school trip. Male teachers would always knock and make the kids aware that they were coming in. Exactly the same if it’s female teacher and boys. One of them could have been changing/ have clothing rising up in their sleep. Complain to
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He wasn't pitting them against each other, just needed to catch her in the act. As she didn't have a phone no harm done.

We don't really know the full story here, for example how many times had he already banged on the door shouting for them to get up. Also did he knock first and give a warning he was going to enter?

I do find it surprising how laid back most posters are about this. Yet had the teacher been a trans woman, no doubt there would be outrage!

Although if he did go INTO the room without saying something like are you all dressed I'm just popping my head around the door, I would be writing a totally different post I hasten to add!

How did he wake them?

by entering the room?

I’d not be happy either. Coupled with his attempts at bullying your child and it is bullying asking the other children to use a code work if they saw her using her phone (which she had left at home). Yes I would complain. About both those things.

I don’t give a shit about ruining his life or whatever PP are worrying about for him. He should not be behaving like that.

Bullying, oh give over! Being a teacher is such a thankless job no wonder so many are leaving the profession!

Yes I don't think we know enough here

so? Allow teachers to behave however they want?

pitting an entire class against one child, what would you call it then?

I think you’re creating problems where there are none.
If he did nothing inappropriate, then a male teacher merely waking up a room of girls is, in itself, not inappropriate.

Some people really have it in for teachers, don't they. There are dozens of threads complaining about how teachers won't babysit their children, do all sorts of events and activities when it suits the parents etc., etc, and various other whinges about teachers not doing the job at their convenience. Then if they do, along come the people to whinge about how they do it. I would not be a teacher for love nor money, and I don't blame them one little bit when they work their hours and not a second longer. No wonder people don't want to teach any more.

Wouldn't worry me.

Your daughter sounds as if she could be quite challenging

I've not RTFT but I have read all the OPs posts.

There is precisely nothing in them to suggest her DD could be 'quite challenging'.

There are other posts in the bits I've skimmed where posters are simply making things up that the OP never said or implied.

Weird.

Anyway - from what the OP actually says I'd agree the teacher shouldn't have entered the room to wake the girls.

In the early 90s, I went I a school trip abroad with all female teachers- (that was just the ratio of male to female teaching staff, we didn't have enough males for this trip as they were involved in sporting events at home with the boys)

The female teacher that woke us came into the room with a camera and took photos of us - I remember the click sound waking me up.

We never thought to question it. Wouldn't dare question a teacher back then, even though looking back now as an adult, there was so much wrong with how that trip went.

Waking them by banging on the door and calling out loudly and asking for acknowledgment they'd heard would have done that.

He’s done nothing wrong waking up the group ...you are the off one looking to make an issue and nit picking because of the phone incident he wasn’t pitting anyone ...stuff and nonsense. I agree with previous poster @Jalisco why people don’t to want to teach with people like you around...

You’ve given no details which is odd I’m assuming he knocked as a wake up call ...I don’t think your getting the answers you’d hoped for hence the lack of details . My impression is you want to make waves over the phone incident ...

Yes, he could have done that. We can go through multiple ways of how people can wake up other people if you like? But we’re talking here about whether one of those methods was Inappropriate Which, imo, it wasn’t.

If I was a man I wouldn't be a teacher these days.

Luckily all teachers are straight so there's never any risks from the same-sex teachers ... er, not.

When dd1 went on her year 6 residential the teachers said at the meeting that barring a medical emergency the male teachers, well liked nice decent, not a bad word to say about these male teachers from either me ir dd1, would not be going into the girls dorms. They were simply not going to put themselves in that position.

Whether or not any of you parents feel its a problem, as young teen I had a male instructor at one of these residential trips offer ne and my friend alcohol befire telling me he wanted to be my boyfriend and sticking his tongue down my throat.

So no I would not have liked this at all. You can blame the instructor fir that.

How has the phone incident come to light? Assuming the other girls have gone to your daughter saying 'Mr X has given us a code word to say when you're on your phone'?
Are they willing to speak with the school to confirm this?

Men who wouldn't think twice about walking into a room of sleeping teenagers really shouldn't go into teaching.

I've looked through the thread and haven't seen yet how the teacher woke the girls so can't comment on that.

On the ridiculousness of him believing your DD had a phone with her I can tell you that my DS was recently on a residential where phones had to be surrendered to a teacher at the start of the trip. Most of the boys took the sim cards out before surrendering and put them in an old device that they had hidden in their bags ( my son admitted this) I asked why they didn't just keep their real phones and surrender the older one and he said the teachers know we all have the latest phones so would have been suspicious!

I also discovered that my own DD has dug out an old phone to use when we confiscate her one for bad behaviour. These kids are often one step ahead of us sadly.

I would definitely complain about the phone issue. Phone or not, the way he went about it was completely unacceptable and ridiculous.

The waking up part, I need more details on what he did and how he did it. Depending on that ,would be another complaint, just a word that some girls felt uncomfortable or nothing at all.

None of my male colleagues have to carefully moderate their behaviour "to protect themselves". They just automatically wouldn't do something like this.