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To think if an employee got a blow job at work from girlfriend they'd be sacked....

274 replies

BadAtMaths2 · 30/06/2022 12:08

You'd think....

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54isanopendoor · 30/06/2022 17:48

WaitroseWoman · 30/06/2022 13:05

I'm not a fan of Carrie but before anyone thinks this thread isn't 'in the spirit' about a woman, it's really not about her. It's about Boris Johnson, the then Foreign Office Minister, a Secretary of State, behaving like this in the Foreign Office. Putting an MP colleague in an unenviable position where he could walk in on and witness that too. And then being made Leader of the Conservative Party and now being our PM, representing us on the world stage. 211 of our MPs recently voting that they still have confidence in him. Like Trump in the US, Johnson is out of control and an embarrassment to the UK. What a role model for other men and boys and for other politicians. Like Partygate, if the PM does it, it must be ok.

I Absolutely agree @WaitroseWoman !!!

it is extremely embarassing & damaging to be represented on the world stage by someone with no moral / ethical compass at all. In addition he is racist, & a Liar.

Cornettoninja · 30/06/2022 17:49

JugglingJanuary · 30/06/2022 13:59

How far back do people really need to keep going to find 'dirt' on him?

How does Carrie giving him a BJ years ago really affect the job he's doing today?

Irrespective of what you think of him, juicy/gossipy details from years ago being plastered all over the media isn't helping our country one bit.

and NO, not Tory HQ. Just bigger worries about Ukraine/cost of living/strikes/etc. to give a shit about BJ getting a BJ years ago.

I suspect even his wife at the time gives less of a fuck about it than people here getting their dander up!

Hmmm, quite a lot of people are subject to things like pre-employment checks and references precisely so employers can weed out the kind of people who have exhibited behaviour in the past that would demonstrate that they’re not suitable for the position they’re after.

A married foreign secretary indulging in casting couch antics in his office with some random low level career climber without even locking/blocking the door doesn’t exactly scream ‘statesman’. It does, quite loudly, scream ‘corruptible’.

let’s not forget this was when he was merrily fucking over Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe.

GoldenSongbird · 30/06/2022 17:50

There is no limit to his unsuitability for the highest office in the land. The Tories really need to get their act together and oust him. He'll never leave voluntarily. They need one of their super rich 'friends' to create a role specially for Boris - preferably far, far away from the UK and from any kind of substantive power.

FixTheBone · 30/06/2022 17:53

Violetparis · 30/06/2022 12:33

Opposition MPs are quiet about it too, it's odd.

Not really - If it''s brought up publicly or in the house of commons - it'll be cheered by all his supporters as another laddish conquest - a measure of machismo and success.

You have to remember, the vast majority of these Eton boys have not had to do any psychological or emotional maturing since they were 13 years old.

Bellagio40 · 30/06/2022 18:00

Omg this thread is making me heave. I hadn’t heard about this. Ignorance was bliss. Such an utterly disgusting and obnoxious excuse of a man

Iflyaway · 30/06/2022 18:00

Absolutely agree footballers are paid an obscene amount of money too.....

Bellagio40 · 30/06/2022 18:01

Florenz · 30/06/2022 14:19

I don't know about Starmer himself but there will have been politicians on the left that have engaged in sexual relations while at work, for absolute certain. Look at Kennedy. Look at Clinton.

Bloody hell, you are absolutely desperate, aren’t you @Florenz

PeekAtYou · 30/06/2022 18:08

Even if nobody on the left never had a BJ at work, pushing this story could end up in a constant tit for tat where people air the opposition's dirty laundry. For example, we know that taking drugs is rife and there will be alcoholics, MPs with weird fetishes....

I'm not saying Starmer has had a BJ at work but I'd bet that he knows the dirty laundry of people sitting on his side of the aisle and would rather it didn't come out.

Remember Gavin Williamson's little orange book? There will be a Labour equivalent imo

ilovesooty · 30/06/2022 18:09

rwalker · 30/06/2022 17:46

If your on an unpaid break it your time to do as you please with

That doesn't normally include sexual activities on work premises.

Notonthestairs · 30/06/2022 18:11

rwalker · 30/06/2022 17:46

If your on an unpaid break it your time to do as you please with

Not on the Parliamentary estate it isn't. Not if you are also in breach of the Ministerial code.
But nice try at minimising his behaviour.

Crikeyalmighty · 30/06/2022 18:15

Matt Hancock had to resign purely because of a snog with his knock off on work premises- the other guy for porn on his phone -
strange how those standards in public office whilst at work don't apply to Johnson.

PeekAtYou · 30/06/2022 18:16

How does Carrie giving him a BJ years ago really affect the job he's doing today?

Don't you think that the normalisation of this kind of thing contributes to a workplace where women are raped and sexually assaulted ?

I'd say that it was most embarrassing for his ex wife Marina and their adult children. They know he's a cheat but don't need the details.

PeekAtYou · 30/06/2022 18:17

rwalker · 30/06/2022 17:46

If your on an unpaid break it your time to do as you please with

I think that people don't deserve to walk into that situation at work. 🤮

Hawkins001 · 30/06/2022 18:19

ShirleyPhallus · 30/06/2022 12:18

I’ve worked for some corporate environments where this kinda stuff happens all the time and no one really seems to care.

Just thinking depends on the company cultures, what is ment to be omg 😲sometimes is natural day to day business.

Crikeyalmighty · 30/06/2022 18:19

For those who don't read Private Eye, it's a total eye opener- the amount of dodgy deals, council backhanders, business stitch ups etc- many of the things you read about in mainstream media have already been covered months before in Private Eye. They do cover all political angles too- it's not just Tory bashing - I'm an avid reader

starfishmummy · 30/06/2022 18:19

TheWeeDonkey · 30/06/2022 13:01

Thanks OP I'm reading this during my lunch break 🤮🤮🤮🤮

You're lucky. I'm on my own for dinner (which js why I'm reading MN while I eat) and eating sausages. (Not a euphemism)

WaitroseWoman · 30/06/2022 18:28

Ncwinc · 30/06/2022 16:32

I just hope the couch has been reupholstered.

No, but some stain remover was required.

Cornettoninja · 30/06/2022 18:33

PeekAtYou · 30/06/2022 18:16

How does Carrie giving him a BJ years ago really affect the job he's doing today?

Don't you think that the normalisation of this kind of thing contributes to a workplace where women are raped and sexually assaulted ?

I'd say that it was most embarrassing for his ex wife Marina and their adult children. They know he's a cheat but don't need the details.

Also adds to the danger, especially in places full of high profile positions, that employees are unprotected from coercion to fulfil sexual acts to achieve promotions and positions (as it appears Boris went on to try to do).

WalkerWalking · 30/06/2022 18:37

I would lose my job if I had repeatedly broken the law/been caught out lying/broken the law and been caught out lying about it 🤷‍♀️🙄

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 30/06/2022 18:46

Bill Clinton was impeached for the same thing.

FinallyHere · 30/06/2022 18:52

TimeFlysWhenYoureHavingRum · 30/06/2022 18:46

Bill Clinton was impeached for the same thing.

Clinton was impeached for lying about it "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" revealing that Mr President did not actually realise, or chose to not believe, that there is more to sex than PIV

AmaryIlis · 30/06/2022 19:01

Florenz · 30/06/2022 14:19

I don't know about Starmer himself but there will have been politicians on the left that have engaged in sexual relations while at work, for absolute certain. Look at Kennedy. Look at Clinton.

Oh dear, betraying your desperation there, @Florenz.

Do you think it's acceptable for a Foreign Secretary to be found at work getting a blow job off a woman whom he then recommends for a £100K a year job?

AmaryIlis · 30/06/2022 19:04

JugglingJanuary · 30/06/2022 13:59

How far back do people really need to keep going to find 'dirt' on him?

How does Carrie giving him a BJ years ago really affect the job he's doing today?

Irrespective of what you think of him, juicy/gossipy details from years ago being plastered all over the media isn't helping our country one bit.

and NO, not Tory HQ. Just bigger worries about Ukraine/cost of living/strikes/etc. to give a shit about BJ getting a BJ years ago.

I suspect even his wife at the time gives less of a fuck about it than people here getting their dander up!

Because it's yet another example of his extraordinary attitude to having incredibly responsible work to do that is literally a matter of life and death for the people of this country.

Would anyone be seriously surprised to discover that he is still behaving like this with Carrie's replacement in the mistress stakes?

AmaryIlis · 30/06/2022 19:06

Fluffymule · 30/06/2022 14:11

Too many skeletons in their cupboards possibly too.

I think politicians of all parties are learning that you can make a big noise and call opposite numbers out for terrible behaviour yes, but you then have to die by the same sword should your own (or colleagues) similar behaviours come to light further down the line.

People quite rightly hate liars and pisstakers, but they hate hypocrites even more.

That's highly unlikely to be the explanation, otherwise Hancock would still be in post.

messybutfun · 30/06/2022 19:08

jcyclops · Today 16:38
It must have been good if he wanted to pay her £100,000 for it.

Why would he care, it’s taxpayers’s money. He’s been handing it out willy nilly. Or just willy.