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To think if an employee got a blow job at work from girlfriend they'd be sacked....

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BadAtMaths2 · 30/06/2022 12:08

You'd think....

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Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 08:13

I'm just sick of the whole pathetic circus

and that’s BJ’s strategy. He waits it out and moves on to the next thing confident that’s he’s got more stamina than peoples grievances. And it’s working evidently.

This is a total non story compared to the total fuck up Boris is making of governing the country

That was my first reaction - of course, it’s him - but actually that’s due to the above. This isn’t a comparison, it’s in addition.

FinallyHere · 01/07/2022 08:14

the Tories are banking on Keir Starmer & Angela Rayner getting FPN for Beergate so that the Labour Party will be leaderless if an election is called within the next month.

I've never voted Labour however I'm really quite worried about that appears to be happening to our democracy.

It's not clear to me yet why Johnson was only issued with questionnaires, and hence only fined for, one event when there is photographic evidence that he attended events for which other more junior staff did receive plans. There is a challenge coming up in the courts against the Met for their inconsistency

If the Tories are relying on FPN against opposition MPs then I would be even more concerned that they ( Tories) are confident they have the Met in their pocket

Blossomtoes · 01/07/2022 08:15

BadAtMaths2 · 01/07/2022 06:59

It’s not a rumour. And the PM wife used her connections at the Telegraph to get the story pulled.

It was The Times, not the Telegraph.

Notonthestairs · 01/07/2022 08:18

The Times pulling a story at the behest of Carrie Johnson is not a non story.

Johnson's lack of focus and willingness to grab key and well paid positions at the FO for his lover is not a non story.

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 08:20

But we already know he had an affair with Carrie when they were working together. What do people think happens during an office affair?

just on this point, yes but there are other dynamics at play. BJ held a position of power over Carrie, they weren’t even trying to be discreet by failing to obstruct the door, he was well aware that people had a habit of coming in unannounced and then knowing that people knew about the affair tried to gain a lucrative position for her outside of formal channels.

He’s demonstrated that his judgement is poor and he is open to propositions in unsuitable circumstances - they may not always just be from someone with ambitions within parliament. He also gave his security the slip to go to a party abroad.

On paper he’s a corruptible liability.

tobee · 01/07/2022 08:22

No I meant Nat6999 rumour about the snap general election not the Private Eye story @BadAtMaths2

DaSilvaP · 01/07/2022 08:23

Long time ago, I was working an office job. There was a couple, married but not to each other, who used to indulge in various shenanigans, including BJs given under the desk.
Apart from appreciating the gossip value of the story, no one was paying any attention nor making any fuss about it.
But then, they were both doing the same job, so they couldn't have any influence on each other's promotion.
Not the same as trying to bestow on the BJ giver a sinecure by trying to jump the queue for jobs.

Never mind all that sleaze, what is far more worrying is the same self-centred clown imagining that Russia is the same as Libya or Iraq and obstinately pushing for an escalation of conflict that won't well end for no one, if not stopped in time.

tobee · 01/07/2022 08:26

Veol · 01/07/2022 08:06

But we already know he had an affair with Carrie when they were working together. What do people think happens during an office affair? I imagine Labour MPs are keeping quiet because many of them will have been caught with their trousers down and don’t want to risk it appearing in the papers. This is a total non story compared to the total fuck up Boris is making of governing the country.

The two aren't separable. Why do you think he's making a fuck up?

tobee · 01/07/2022 08:28

I don't see what the numerous stories about people get up to shenanigans in their offices and no one caring has got anything to do with it.

Notonthestairs · 01/07/2022 08:31

If Starmer buying a donkey sanctuary for his mum, Rayner crossing her legs and Abbot drinking a tin of mojito on her way home was worthy of front pages why isn't this?

cyclamenqueen · 01/07/2022 08:41

And now we know why our children’s mental and physical health ( and that of their teachers) and their academic futures were put at risk by us continuing to have arguably the worst education secretary in living memory . A man who reduced the exams system to a pulp and a mockery, failed to advocate for schools funding or planing , made no coherent plans and then messed the exam system up a second year .

all because he caught his boss at it …., that’s what’s wrong. It’s because he opened himself to blackmail , and worse he allowed himself to be blackmailed. Who else is blackmailing him?

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 08:43

If the Tories are relying on FPN against opposition MPs then I would be even more concerned that they ( Tories) are confident they have the Met in their pocket

Its not the Met investigating KS and AR, it’s Durham (who also investigated Cummings I believe). That’s not to say there’s no political pressure from any side but it’s not the met for once.

Veol · 01/07/2022 09:14

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 08:20

But we already know he had an affair with Carrie when they were working together. What do people think happens during an office affair?

just on this point, yes but there are other dynamics at play. BJ held a position of power over Carrie, they weren’t even trying to be discreet by failing to obstruct the door, he was well aware that people had a habit of coming in unannounced and then knowing that people knew about the affair tried to gain a lucrative position for her outside of formal channels.

He’s demonstrated that his judgement is poor and he is open to propositions in unsuitable circumstances - they may not always just be from someone with ambitions within parliament. He also gave his security the slip to go to a party abroad.

On paper he’s a corruptible liability.

We knew all that before though. He was in a relationship with Carrie when he was elected. The bj is a yucky bit of gossip but tells us nothing we didn’t already know. There is plenty of more recent and more important dirt on Boris Johnson. I am so angry at his incompetence and his lack of principles, but this story is tiny compared to his other cock-ups(sorry-couldn’t resist the pun!)

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 09:24

I don’t disagree entirely, but I would argue that’s it’s telling us exactly what he’s done to us. If this was anyone else or the first thing we were hearing about rather than one more on a very long list there would be a very different reaction.

I’ve recognised it in myself and it wasn’t exactly a comfortable realisation.

Weightlossanne · 01/07/2022 09:25

If Williamson was the MP who walked in on him did it happen during the time he was Theresa May’s chief whip? Wouldn’t that have given May the evidence to sack BJ.

AmaryIlis · 01/07/2022 09:30

Veol · 01/07/2022 08:06

But we already know he had an affair with Carrie when they were working together. What do people think happens during an office affair? I imagine Labour MPs are keeping quiet because many of them will have been caught with their trousers down and don’t want to risk it appearing in the papers. This is a total non story compared to the total fuck up Boris is making of governing the country.

I agree the fuck-up is the main story, but I disagree that this is a non-story. I would hope that most people having office affairs aren't indulging in blow jobs during office hours with the door open, and that if they do they are at least honourable enough not to try to use their relationship for financial advantage.

But perhaps the most serious aspect is that Johnson was Foreign Secretary at the time - probably the second most important position in government. When he could and should have been working to, for instance, help improve things in Palestine or get Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe to freedom, he was busy having his cock sucked and trying to get his mistress a lucrative job. And we were paying him for that. It's taking sleaze to the very lowest depths.

AmaryIlis · 01/07/2022 09:32

FinallyHere · 01/07/2022 08:14

the Tories are banking on Keir Starmer & Angela Rayner getting FPN for Beergate so that the Labour Party will be leaderless if an election is called within the next month.

I've never voted Labour however I'm really quite worried about that appears to be happening to our democracy.

It's not clear to me yet why Johnson was only issued with questionnaires, and hence only fined for, one event when there is photographic evidence that he attended events for which other more junior staff did receive plans. There is a challenge coming up in the courts against the Met for their inconsistency

If the Tories are relying on FPN against opposition MPs then I would be even more concerned that they ( Tories) are confident they have the Met in their pocket

The Met aren't investigating Starmer. Though, after Durham's refusal to investigate Cummings, I wouldn't be too surprised to find they are in the Tories' pockets.

Veol · 01/07/2022 09:32

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 09:24

I don’t disagree entirely, but I would argue that’s it’s telling us exactly what he’s done to us. If this was anyone else or the first thing we were hearing about rather than one more on a very long list there would be a very different reaction.

I’ve recognised it in myself and it wasn’t exactly a comfortable realisation.

You are right. I think I have got so used to stories about Boris, I have become desensitised and that isn’t a good thing.

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 09:40

Weightlossanne · 01/07/2022 09:25

If Williamson was the MP who walked in on him did it happen during the time he was Theresa May’s chief whip? Wouldn’t that have given May the evidence to sack BJ.

I think TM was playing by traditional rules that meant MP’s generally had integrity and a willingness to find a middle ground to achieve a goal. Basically I think she got hoodwinked the same way he’s done to the rest of us.

www.politicshome.com/news/article/boris-johnson-will-just-say-no-if-theresa-may-tries-to-sack-him

DowningStreetParty · 01/07/2022 10:04

It’s not a non-story though because it’s yet another grubby example of Johnson’s utterly corrupt entitled behaviour which as we can see from his colleagues dropping like flies around him, is infecting the whole Tory party. Leadership and moral leadership matters more than ever in tough times and we are headed for some extremely tough times.
I have respect for Starmer and Rayner for saying they would resign if they were found to have broken the law. Of course they should.
How fucking dare that vile lawbreaking Boris Johnson cling on as a completely useless PM just because he wants to?! I have zero respect for the Conservative party for standing by him. They’re like the republicans in America with Trump. Look how that’s ended up. Shame on him, shame on them.

Herbturner · 01/07/2022 11:01

Yeah exactly. As Jamss O' Brian points out on an LBC segment on this, if this was any other leader or big name in politics it would have been everywhere. One rule for the PM and another for everyone else where most of our media is concerned.

Cornettoninja · 01/07/2022 11:34

Herbturner · 01/07/2022 11:01

Yeah exactly. As Jamss O' Brian points out on an LBC segment on this, if this was any other leader or big name in politics it would have been everywhere. One rule for the PM and another for everyone else where most of our media is concerned.

Interesting point he made this morning, the established media wasn’t enough of a mouthpiece for some so they’ve started these new ‘straight speaking’ outlets that run at a loss. GBeebies as he called it.

owned by, amongst others, this guy en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Marshall_(investor).

Nanananananana99 · 01/07/2022 12:01

ScottishBeth · 30/06/2022 12:18

What actually happened? I've seen reference this on twitter but no actual information.

Agree though. I have colleagues who are in relationships and I don't think they routinely even hold hands at work.

Lol. Check back now under #carriegate #BloJo and #SwallowbackFriday

fghj149 · 01/07/2022 12:21

How very Christian of this woman of God 😂

DaSilvaP · 01/07/2022 14:45

DowningStreetParty
....How fucking dare that vile lawbreaking Boris Johnson cling on as a completely useless PM just because he wants to?! ....

What else would you expect from someone who was charging like a mad elephant to become PM just because he wanted to?

You can say whatever you want about Thatcher, but at least she had a programme she wanted to see through. BloJo's only manifesto is to stay in power for power sake.