Sick of the push for Scottish independence

[ThisKiltIsMadeForWalking]

I keep seeing on the news that Nicola Sturgeon is pushing for another referendum and I just don’t get it. If she doesn’t get the answer she wants this time can she push for another in a few years? I just find it disgusting that half the country are struggling badly for things like food/electricity/petrol and she wants to spend millions pushing for something that she wants, that the majority voted against a few years ago? Am I missing something?

Watch out the tories are out of ideas lol

Is this based on something? (polling etc)

just out of interest

Interesting to be informed that the history of Orkney and Shetland aren't important to modern day Scotland!

I think beverages (read single malt ) are Scotland's second largest export by value. If the world goes into recession, the whisky market will probably take a hit. Or, who knows, it might increase, what with people drowning their sorrows...........

Of course they understand EU competition law. We are not in the EU.

Sheer obvious whataboutery. Totally irrelevant.

Sturgeon won't take no for an answer.
Just as well she's not a man on a date with me or I'd be punching him/her in the face!

I would just ignore them. It's probably sturgeons lackey posting. Never going to hear sense out of them or a proper argument.

Snp would probably like Orkney and Shetland to disappear though, they hate snp.

Sterling antelope? Will you ever address it?

To the person who asked about currency - I do not care about currency on an emotional level, it is unimportant. On an economic level what I have read suggests best option for Scotland is initially to stay with the pound and then over time to move to another currency. But I see it as an economic decision.

I’m a Scot and the last thing I want is independence. Problem is the SNP are clueless to what to do with it if they got it - they can’t run a devolved govt let along a country. All it would do is split Scotland even more. At the moment most of the money goes to the central belt and the rest of the country has to make do. You’d end up with the central belt of Glasgow and Edinburgh getting most of the money then you’re left with the Highlands and Islands and the north east. Country is even more split. The financial waste of the SNP is outrageous. Don’t know what the answer is but it certainly ain’t independence. Nicola sturgeon squirrelling money away for independence when it could be spend on so many other things is outrageous. They refuse to have independent auditors in to check the books- where’s the £580 million gone Nicola? - tucked away for your independence referendum. Total waste of money.

why is it best to stick with the pound? After all, that’s not true ‘independence’ is it? And you said the UK’s economy is going to go down the shitter?

Back in 2014 I felt quite sad at the thought of Scotland leaving the U.K. Now I can’t wait for them to piss off. Independence will be a disaster but I absolutely detest Sturgeon and the SNP and anyone who’s voted for them deserves what they get.

That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Evidence suggests that when the UK was last in the EU, not all that long ago, whenever their legislation was challenged by the CJEU, they were told they had got it wrong. And that was on the favourable terms that the UK as a whole had too. Now that the UK is no longer in the EU, the stream of non-EU compliant law has increased.

Even on the basis of proportionality of punishment alone - I mean who really needs those basic principles of EU law and justice in the Treaties after all? Why not slap a fine on someone of around a tenth of their annual income for a minor regulatory or administrative misdemenaour when you have criminal penalties for much more serious offences much lower than that.

Employer encourages the truth to be put out there on social media!

@whoo what do you mean? Scotland's finances is independently audited.

I agree completely, @JudgeRindersMinder.

And it absolutely infuriates me to hear Nicola Sturgeon preaching about how the election results show a clear mandate for another referendum, and the will of the electorate MUST be respected - when she and the SNP did not, for one single nano-second, respect the will of the electorate in the first referendum! They only respect the will of the people when it supports their opinion.

They don’t respect the opinion polls either - I think one recently had only 38% in favour of holding another referendum.

I didn't vote reasonable or unreasonable. I'm a firm No but I think it's inevitable that we have to go through this process once more because of brexit.

I honestly think Scotland will vote no again, and at that point we truly put it to bed.

I spoke to several Welsh people recently and they all wanted independence. I've also spoken to (Northern) English people who said they wish the north of England was part of Scotland so they could be independent too.

I don't know if it's where I live but I have had absolutely no issues with public services at all. Kids schools are great, no problems with NHS or police (unfortunately have had to deal with both over the past couple of years). There were reports in the media about how bad my local hospital was with wait times etc yet both myself and my child (on separate occasions for nothing life threatening) were seen quickly and efficiently. Media scaremongering IMO.

I voted no the last time but would vote yes this time. If Brexit had happened before the Indy referendum I think the outcome would have been different. I don't believe there should be continuous referendums and I'm not a big Nicola but I think given the huge change in circumstances there should be one more. If it's still no then it's time to put it behind us and just get on with it.

So Scotland should just stay in a union where they are routinely insulted, their economic interests ignored and belittled, and lies routinely told about what the devolved government are doing and how it operates?
That makes zero sense.

I did hear that the SNP still want Westminster ( ie, English tax payers) to pay for their pensions if they do become independent. If this is the case , then it's not that independent is it ?
I think they should get another go at it though because much has changed since the last one was held (but that's just my opinion)
Not sure what I'd think if I lived there though.

I read that she’s proposing 19th October 2023 for another referendum.
All that time, all those resources being directed towards campaigning at a time when people are struggling post Covid and with economic pressures coming from all directions.
The SNP and the Scottish Govt should be focussed on delivering for ALL their citizens.
Heartily sick of the SNP and the push for independence.

I think Nicola wants to be careful Scotland isn't seized entirely and devolved powers removed if she keeps pushing this agenda.

I honestly wouldn't put it past Boris.

The level of "debate" and whataboutery is depressing.

I totally agree. I don't know how it's even legal to just keep holding referendums until you get the desired result! What if Scotland becomes independent and then another party comes in with an aim to reunite - will they then just hold referendum after referendum until Scotland unites again. It's completely disruptive and ridiculous. One referendum was absolutely fine but Nicola Sturgeon needs to listen to the voice of the people and stop forcing this issue. And as a side note - she doesn't seem to have noted that although she did everything she could to skew the vote in favour of an independent Scotland (not allowing Scots resident in England to vote, for example) the outcome was STILL to remain united! Boils my piss.