To be totally gutted for American women?

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The US Supreme Court has reversed the Roe v Wade ruling. Millions of American women have lost their right to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies.

I have never had an abortion and personally, I'm not sure if I ever could, but I have always been passionately of the view that individual women should be able to make that choice for themselves. It's awful that this right has been removed for so many.

@greywinds - I'm not sure how effective they were, but no one seemed bothered by them. People started businesses selling elixirs/potions to help women end pregnancies. There wasn't very good food/drug safety regulations back then so some women died of poisoning. So the first laws around abortion in the US were poison control - trying to help women stay safe while practicing abortion. It's so sad how backwards we are moving in America.

None of the women I know who have had to have abortions have done so without enduring mental anguish, whether the reason be due to medical concerns, relationship or financial issues.

I think most women take precautions . I think the precautions are fallible and women then are faced with making difficult decisions, usually alone, and living with the consequences of that decision, its horrid..and now its 10x harder :(

Antiquated decision, by sad old men who see this as the only way to assert their patriarchal rights...rant over :)

Yesterday they expanded their gun laws, despite the massacre of children just last week. Now they’ve banned abortions.

What an absolute clusterfuck of a place.

I agree

It shouldn’t be “enforced” - a woman should be believed if she says she’s in an abusive relationship and wants an abortion. If she actually not, well, that’s between her and her conscience.

I just think as a society we should not be encouraged to see abortion as a routine, normal thing, maybe even a right of passage.

It’s a horrible thing and sometimes a necessary evil in many circumstances and we shouldn’t celebrate it.

I think the best thing we could do to make abortion safe is to normalise it as much as possible. Make it as easy as booking an eye test.

Abortion is routine and a normal medical procedure. It's more damaging to push the lie that abortions are always traumatic and awful. Not a single reasonable person thinks that having an abortion is some kind of rite of passage. No one is suggesting that society should celebrate abortions. They are a medical procedure, for women who need or choose to have one. It's nobody's business but the woman's and her chosen health care professional.

BPAS (British Pregnancy Advisory Service) already has an open letter for Liz Truss for people to sign about this. bpas-campaigns.org/campaigns/roe-v-wade/

For what influence Britain has on America.

Not punishment. Just consequences.
If you see pregnancy as punishment, be watertight on your contraception.
If you don’t, enjoy your baby 😊

1. No contraception is either water or semen tight.

1. Those consequences are suffered by only 50% of the pair that made the baby.

So upset watching the news. They just want to control women or a religious nut jobs.
Biden is right saying the US is no longer acting like a country in the developed world.

It's more damaging to push the lie that abortions are always traumatic and awful

i’ve seen (always male, oddly enough) US pro-lifers on twitter insisting all abortion is dismemberment of the live baby in utero.

idiots.

I do not think some of these anti-abortion comments should be allowed to stand on here. This is a woman's site. Some of the comments are so anti-women.

I don’t want to control women. I believe in small, very small, government.

I just wish more women would take better, personal control over their contraception to prevent the need for so many abortions.

We can do it 💪

we should all change our social media profile pictures to the Handmaids take because that’s where this is heading. America will shortly become a theocracy where women are baby making chattels.

America will implode soon and they’re all carrying guns.

I will not be visiting the US for the foreseeable

Michelle Obama references Planned Parenthood & United State of Women - I don't know whether they accept foreign donations but worth supporting in any way we can.

We can do it

So much crazy shit going on in the world
wiman to go to going back years and years

wars

cost of living crisis

people working full time yet being poor

it’s starting to feel unreal to an extent

I will not visit the US. It Won't make a jot of difference to anything , but they are going backwards and it's just appalling.

Excluding of course circumstances where the woman is a victim

So unless someone else decides she is sufficiently enough a victim, she must carry a baby, give birth to it and then have a life long responsibility for it as punishment for being feckless.

Also, judging how pro lifers talk about all of this, you'd think men were completely absent from the process of a woman becoming pregnant.

America is very backward, look at the maternity leave situation!
Look at keep sweet, pray etc.

Two ,three tiers society.

I'm not sure which comment you're referring to, and now you've confused me more. Without being insensitive I'm not sure how that relates to anything I've said.

Is it about pp saying abortion is depressing and me saying in an ideal world nobody would need one? They wouldn't, that's the truth. Because in an ideal world there's be no unplanned pregnancy. Is that where the disagreement is?

@FreyaStorm I'm currently pregnant with baby #3. We plan for this to be our last baby. Can you just sum up please how me and my husband move forward after this pregnancy as the doctors have mentioned we should think about what we plan to do once baby is here and you obviously have all the answers. Seeing as no method of contraception is 100% guaranteed to not fail do you suggest we never have sex again or face, as you wish, to be publicly shamed? We cannot afford another baby, cannot provide for another, and I cannot go though another pregnancy. So please do let me know the 'right' way to move forward in circumstances such as ours, we'd love to know.

And by the way, I've been there. When I was 16 it was abortion or suicide because I really feared for my safety if discovered. But... if someone thinks abortion is depressing that's their right. Doesn't mean they want you to die, that's a pretty big leap.

Do tell us all @FreyaStorm what are better contraceptive choices that are 100% effective and cover all medical scenarios like people who can’t take hormone based drugs. Think it’s just you and the US Supreme Court who seem to know this so would be good to share.

If you did a Venn diagram of the right wing anti abortion group in one circle, and the people who say slate single mothers on benefits for having more children in the other, I'd bet the circles would lie neatly on top of each other.

I’m a Mum, a professional in my 30s and also a woman who had an abortion for a much wanted pregnancy because I was ill. Not about to die ill but with hyperemesis severe enough despite all the available treatment and under a leading HG expert that without IV fluids regularly I’d have ended up with kidney failure. Around 10% of women with HG terminate their pregnancies because the disease is so awful even if it’s generally no longer fatal.

Women needing abortions are not just contraceptive failures; too stupid or too feckless to care; victims of rape or any other the other bad things. We are women like any other, living our lives the same as you. Planning pregnancies that don’t go the way we want them to. Bearing the scars of the impossible choice but knowing it was the right one nonetheless. Hiding the truth even from our closest friends or family because we fear they won’t understand and will judge. Think about that before you judge what’s a worthy reason for an abortion. Which woman has a good enough reason to make it ok in your eyes. If you haven’t lived it, you have no idea and you’re no better than those who have banned it you’ve just made your own rules about what counts as justifiable.