To be totally gutted for American women?

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The US Supreme Court has reversed the Roe v Wade ruling. Millions of American women have lost their right to make decisions about what happens to their own bodies.

I have never had an abortion and personally, I'm not sure if I ever could, but I have always been passionately of the view that individual women should be able to make that choice for themselves. It's awful that this right has been removed for so many.

Simple. To balance out all the so called “lazy and feckless” ones not aborting.

Back to the punishment thing again. So not pro-life, just boring old pro-punishment.

It's absolutely awful, regressive and misogynistic. America has gone backwards.

people really are making threads unreadable with ndless nested quotes.

@Cartoonmom really? Interesting that. I wonder how effective it was though, I know people have always tried to end pregnancies - but the framers didn't grapple with it clearly one way or the other so I still don't understand why the dems haven't enshrined it in law in the 70s, and not leave themselves open to Supreme Court packing.

But then maybe legislation would've been easier to overturn!

@CoastalWave so to be clear, you think it's unacceptable that you were pressurised or even harassed into getting a covid vaccine, and that causes you think it's ok to legally force women to continue to be pregnant?

For the fourth or fifth time, I’ve lost count, what statistics? Please link to them

An interesting historical perspective-

www.feminist.com/resources/ourbodies/abortion.html

If you are honest, I have no judgement.

is it your preference that woman without access to legal abortion should commit suicide instead?

no judgement, just curious.

I take a medication that makes hormonal contraception less effective I didn't know this until I was pregnant and then my GP informed me later on it can also cause foetal abnormalities. I rely on this medication to work I already had a 7 year old at the time who I had parented mostly alone. My career had picked up and finally I was on my way to financial freedom. My existing child would suffer financially if I continued the pregnancy .

I had an abortion at 5 weeks it was quick and didn't resemble a baby at all it was like a blood clot. I'm very happy with my decision and I have gone on the copper coil . Who are you to tell me what I must do with my own body? I have zero regrets I prioritised my existing child.

You read the news daily but you’ve managed to not read about the war in Ukraine and rape as a weapon of war? Ok then.

Get the implant, double bag him, whatever. You don’t need to be getting accidentally knocked up

you realise “double bagging” will likely lead to accidentally getting knocked up?

using two condoms is not safer, they are more likely to fail or split due to friction created between the two.

yet here you are insisting everyone has access to reliable contraception- you are one of who doesn't appear to know how to use condoms properly- Which makes your preaching completely hypocritical.

“No need to create and then snuff out a life when I’m just getting my leg over, when there are so many contraception options.”

Not a single one of them is 100% effective.

I literally can’t believe this.

A sad day for all women.

There’s no magical solution at all - and I do think it’s awful to have an unwanted baby.

But all the same I am uncomfortable with abortion as contraception and with how willy-nilly it’s done and discussed in everyday life, as though it is just a wart being lopped off.

Ideally, women and men would take contraception a lot more seriously and not have “oh well, I can just abort” in the back of their minds. I wish we could work on lowering the demand for abortions at all. Excluding of course circumstances where the woman is a victim, fetal disability, ectopic, etc.

Yet apparently everyone who doesn't know everything about contraception is feckless and lazy and deserves to have a baby as punishment. Even if they are under 18.

Well, we can’t. We can either accept abortion is necessary and make it as safe as possible, and as easy to access as possible, or we allow our judgement of women who enjoy sex to decide how worthy they are of very basic healthcare.

Women and girls won’t stop having abortions

they will stop having safe abortions

a right every girl and women should

But you think someone who has three abortions before 18 can't possibly have been a victim of something, they must be feckless and lazy and should be sterilised. You also think she should have been made to carry on those pregnancies despite also claiming the children were miserable.

Have the right to a safe abortion

Still no answer?

Not naive, just cynical.

Worried about accidents? Forgetful? Get the implant.

In a happy, stable relationship and can afford another child but really don’t want one? Sort out your contraception. Have an accident? In my view I think the baby should be kept because you can probably give it a decent life.

In an unhappy, unstable, poverty stricken relationship? Best option would be to make sure your contraception works. Next best is abortion because having a child in those circumstances is the greater evil.

All in my view, of course.

I admit my judgement is very very much clouded from having lost a baby at 17weeks.

I lost a baby at 20 weeks. If anything that experience has made me even more avowedly pro choice than I was before.

My baby died unexpectedly, she was extremely poorly we found out later. Had she lived, we would have had a decision to make. I don't want to live in a world where the ability to make that choice, to spare my child suffering, could be taken away from me and I would have to endure the agony of waiting for something to happen. It was bad enough when it just happened, I can't fathom the horror of having to wait, to know your child is ill, to know they will die but because of people who wish to deny a mother choice, you must wait for 'nature' to take its course. With all the risks that comes along with that.

My experience ruined me. I will never, ever forget my daughters face, her little hands, her tiny feet, I will never, ever get over the shock and trauma and prolonged recovery that came as a result of things happening 'naturally'. I almost died. I was riddled with infection from retained products. I had two post partum haemorrhages. If all that could have been avoided by having a TFMR then I would have been grateful for it.

I support all women to make the choice that is best for them. As early as possible. As late as is necessary.

Because she(?) doesn't give a flying fuck about babies or foetuses, they're just a common or garden sexist who wants to see women punished for daring to have sex.

Say what. Poor people abort !

only rich people keep the baby