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To not forgive this (chicken pox related)

587 replies

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 09:21

My youngest DD is CEV. She has numerous health problems and we’ve had to be very careful her whole life.

That has meant, especially since covid, finding a balance between protecting her, but making sure her siblings don’t live too limited a life. It’s not an easy balance and not one we always get 100% right.

Our policy with other people has always been - please give us a heads up if we’re due to spend time with you and we’ll risk assess it. We never expect other people to cancel their attendance at parties etc, if we don’t feel it’s safe enough for her then we miss out. All we ask is that we’re given the info.

People around us are generally really good. It’s been a bit problematic since the mindset of covid being over has come in, but generally we’ve muddled through ok.

Earlier in the summer one of my other kids, who is 8, was invited to a sleepover for a birthday - just her and the birthday kid. The parent of the birthday kid knows us very well and said there was no coughs, colds or anything in their home the afternoon I dropped DD3 off. Everything seemed fine and dandy.

A few days after the party I got a message saying that the birthday child had chicken pox. Sure as fate DD3 had caught them. DD4 then caught them and it was a horrid time as she ended up spending 6 days in hospital seriously ill.

To me it was one of those things and couldn’t be helped.

Except now it turns out that the birthday child was known to have CP before the party. The birthday mum told another mum because she felt guilty and that mum told her to tell us or she would.

Birthday child felt well with the CP and apparently “really really really wanted DD4 as their sleepover guest” so the parents decided to just not say anything because it “could” have happened that they didn’t know so we had decided to take that risk.

They’ve been apologetic, as in the Dad apologised very briefly, but they seem fixed on “but, if we hadn’t known them you wouldn’t have known” and that, to them, seems to make it ok. Whereas to me it really doesn’t make it ok.

I don’t want anything to do with them again. I don’t trust them and I’m furious that they’d take that risk with someone else’s child, especially in our situation.

and they don’t seem to grasp that even before I had my youngest I’d have been pissed off if someone deliberately hid that because who exposes another child to CP deliberately without their parents ok? What if the Mum was pregnant?

My AIBU is this - the kids met at an activity. During the holidays when it’s off we usually try and organise a few play dates so they don’t lose touch. It’s always them/their DD that asks. Mine is happy to meet up, but has never asked. This summer I’m thinking just not agreeing to any of the meet ups.

If my DD asks id need to re-assess, but I don’t think she will. Id rather just let the friendship fizzle to a weekly thing at their activity as that way it limits contact with the parents.

OP posts:
Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:41

SeenYourArse · 24/06/2022 11:24

Just to add being vaccinated against CP seems to do very little! My sons classmate and good friend has been vaccinated and recently caught them at school from a classmate nonetheless she wasn’t poorly really but then nor were any of her 4 siblings who are as yet unvaccinated 🤷‍♀️ the vaccine didn’t seem to have made any difference to her either way.

Another one who hasn't read the OP's posts...

IntricateRhyme · 24/06/2022 11:41

I remember very clearly my mum cancelling my birthday party at the last minute because I had chicken pox. It was the responsible thing to do. She rearranged it when I was well again. It's not difficult to be a responsible parent.

Valeriekat · 24/06/2022 11:42

Plzhelpifyoucan · 24/06/2022 09:25

I don’t blame you, I’d be furious too. She knew and she was happy for your children to be put at risk, like you said you could’ve been pregnant. She should’ve informed you and you can no longer trust her judgement. Plus they aren’t even very sorry are they?

Chicken Pox doesn't pose a pregnancy risk though.
What they did was lie to you. Unforgiveable

Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:43

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OFFS!!

Insensitive or what?

Do you not think she should 'live' whilst she is able?

Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:44

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:40

You have 4 children or more?

do the other children go to mainstream schools?

Your point?

Namechangehereandnow · 24/06/2022 11:46

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Yours is the worst post so far … despicable and unforgivable. You should be ashamed.

Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:46

@JustLyra

Going by the level of stupidity on this thread, your day-to-day life must be unbelievably stressful trying to keep her safe and well. Flowers

Sally872 · 24/06/2022 11:47

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supertedlasso · 24/06/2022 11:47

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:40

You have 4 children or more?

do the other children go to mainstream schools?

🙄

Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:47

Namechangehereandnow · 24/06/2022 11:46

Yours is the worst post so far … despicable and unforgivable. You should be ashamed.

She's now implying that if the other children go to mainstream then the OP must be putting her DD at risk herself (that's my take on her posts)

How spiteful and stupid can some people be?

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 11:49

Sometimes people get run over crossing the road.

We should let children play in the motorway.

#LifeAccordingToOhThatsExciting

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:49

Nanny0gg · 24/06/2022 11:47

She's now implying that if the other children go to mainstream then the OP must be putting her DD at risk herself (that's my take on her posts)

How spiteful and stupid can some people be?

No of course I am not!!

i am just surprised that this seems to be the first time the op has encountered such thoughtlessness from a parent.

Surely with three other children at mainstream school there must have been multiple scenarios where a child has been sent in poorly and passed to her other children who have then passed to her very I’ll DD?

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 11:49

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:40

You have 4 children or more?

do the other children go to mainstream schools?

Yes. We have 6 children between us. 3 at uni. One at high school. One primary. DD4 at specialist.
any further info required?

and if this is going to turn into a “your kids could pass her covid/noro/CP/whatever” so why bother lecture I really don’t care.

i have to take risks with DD so her siblings can do essential things and be as normal as possible.

That includes asking people to show basic decency with ill health around us. like not choosing to expose one of my kids to chicken pox deliberately for the sake of a sleepover

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SamphirethePogoingStickerist · 24/06/2022 11:49

The Dad, who keeps trying to chat at pick up, just seems fixated on “but if we didn’t know the same could have happened”.

You need to be very blunt

"Fuck Off! You did know and you took a chance with my child's life"

And then ignore them all!

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 11:50

She's been clear, @Ohthatsexciting , that school work hard with her to minimise the risk. Just because we can't get risks down to zero doesn't mean a random can deliberately expose OPs child to danger.

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 11:50

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:49

No of course I am not!!

i am just surprised that this seems to be the first time the op has encountered such thoughtlessness from a parent.

Surely with three other children at mainstream school there must have been multiple scenarios where a child has been sent in poorly and passed to her other children who have then passed to her very I’ll DD?

It’s the first time a parent has openly told me they decided not to give a fuck with chicken pox.

covid yes - I’ve been having that argument for ages.

never this.

OP posts:
ungratefuldead · 24/06/2022 11:51

Honestly ignore @Ohthatsexciting . It's all goady bollocks, victim blaming or insensitive posts every time I see a contribution

I hope this thread has confirmed that you are not unreasonable OP

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:51

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 11:50

She's been clear, @Ohthatsexciting , that school work hard with her to minimise the risk. Just because we can't get risks down to zero doesn't mean a random can deliberately expose OPs child to danger.

No I was curious
the three other at mainstream
kide just be so hard because not sure about yours
but might regularly bring home bugs and transpires “Lottie vomited whilst the teacher was taking noting register”

Mariposista · 24/06/2022 11:52

Not a nice position to find yourselves in OP. Very sorry and good luck for the future.
How do you manage it when one of your kids brings something homes from school, as they inevitably will (sickness bug, cold, chest infection etc) as they inevitably will? Or even you and husband from work? Occupational hazard of kids/working. Does your ill child then have to stay with a grandparent or equivalent while their sibling is unwell? With a big family, this must be pretty hard to manage.

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 11:53

JustLyra · 24/06/2022 11:50

It’s the first time a parent has openly told me they decided not to give a fuck with chicken pox.

covid yes - I’ve been having that argument for ages.

never this.

I think the difference with this scenario is the parent has behaved despicably and been honest

but with three other children at mainstream - many other parents would have behaved equally thoughtlessly but not mentioned to you

Namechangehereandnow · 24/06/2022 11:57

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SqueakyShoe · 24/06/2022 11:59

I would never speak to them again. Actually, first I would text them that they knowingly put your daughter at risk and she ended up in the hospital for 6 days.

Then block and take your other child out of the activity. Not with it. They'll be sending their child there regardless of any illness.

007DoubleOSeven · 24/06/2022 12:02

Next time the dad tries to chat, tell him to never speak to you again - they nearly - killed your daughter.

Ohthatsexciting · 24/06/2022 12:02

bed ridden means confined to bed because of sickness?

SqueakyShoe · 24/06/2022 12:02

The mum that made them tell you is your friend. They are not.