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Child outside psychiatric hospital

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UndertheCedartree · 23/06/2022 14:30

I was visiting my DBF at the psychiatric hospital he is in at the moment today. We sat out the front. There was a DC there the whole 2.5 hours I was there with his parents who were visiting another patient.

I thought it was a bit strange. The garden of the male acute ward borders this area and you sporadically hear a lot of swearing at people and shouting. The patients out the front can sometimes shout inappropriate things, there can be fights or aggressiveness as obviously some are very unwell. I personally don't think it's an appropriate environment for a child.

The thing is it's not like there is no where else to go. There is a family room (but would need to be booked) and a short walk away there is a park and a square with benches and cafes/shops. The area outside the hospital has a road for cars to access the reception and the car park too and the DC kept scootering into the road. I expect he was really bored.

What do you think? I can't think of any reason they stayed there.

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UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 08:47

I just want to make really, really clear that I am not suggesting all people with mental illness are violent. I'm just talking about a very specific male acute ward where some of the patients are due to be very unwell. Most people with mental illness are more likely to be the victims of violence

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ihatethefuckingmuffin · 24/06/2022 11:18

SinnermanGirl · 24/06/2022 01:49

That is a wild extrapolation and you know it. 🙄

What’s wrong with you? Or did you just fancy arguing 🤔

Unfortunately the post didn’t link Redbone post that I was replying to

Wow I really can’t believe that some of you are so callous to tell the OP to mind her own business! A psychiatric hospital is no place for a young child to be and this is a real safeguarding issue.

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 24/06/2022 11:24

UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 07:59

I have made no inconsistencies...you just keep making out I have and then I clear it up!

I didn't say the DC was near a main road. I said a road. The road goes past the main entrance. The area the toddler was was opposite this road and then to the side was car park. I mentioned the car park when explaining how small the area he had to play on was.

i havent been arguing with you I have been trying to clear up things that don’t make sense.
and yes inconsistencies from you which I copied on posted on replies as they came up.

If you want to accuse someone of making things up I suggest you check your mirror

If others think I’m harsh I suggest going back and properly read all the ops posts not just skim.

UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 16:54

ihatethefuckingmuffin · 24/06/2022 11:24

i havent been arguing with you I have been trying to clear up things that don’t make sense.
and yes inconsistencies from you which I copied on posted on replies as they came up.

If you want to accuse someone of making things up I suggest you check your mirror

If others think I’m harsh I suggest going back and properly read all the ops posts not just skim.

I wasn't accusing you of making things up. (What does check your mirror mean? What mirror?) It just felt like you were arguing with me but fair enough if you just didn't understand and wanted to clear it up.

You have quoted things like me saying 'grounds leave only is always escorted' and said I was saying 'off ground leave is always escorted' which you can see in black and white I didn't say. You also say I said 'main road' when I just said 'road'. Anyway, I hope I've cleared everything up now.

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StripeyDeckchair · 24/06/2022 17:16

Not your circus,
Not your monkeys.

UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 17:40

StripeyDeckchair · 24/06/2022 17:16

Not your circus,
Not your monkeys.

??

It's all dealt with now the staff have let them know other places they could go.

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UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 18:05

UndertheCedartree · 23/06/2022 16:44

No the ward didn't know. You don't have to be let onto the grounds you can just enter them. They would know if you had escaped if you left the ward. The men generally vault over the garden fence. So honestly could have landed on the toddler.

Staff wear hospital uniforms at this hospital. In fact that has been the case at all the hospital's I've been to. Anyway, my DBF would know if he was being supervised anyway!

I'm just rereading and maybe this is confusing @ihatethefuckingmuffin

You said the ward would know the DC was there because you have to be let onto the grounds and then they keep an eye on you.

So when I said you don't have to be let onto the grounds, I was refering to the family, that they could just enter the grounds.

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HappyBinosaur · 24/06/2022 18:38

@Staynow I find your post offensive.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare my experience of visiting my mum in hospital to saying ‘I was smacked and I was fine’.
That is comparing my dad taking me to visit my unwell mum with my parents abusing me.
Also, I never said I was ‘fine’ but I am glad I went to see her as the alternative would have been worse.

SinnermanGirl · 24/06/2022 18:47

JustOneDD · 23/06/2022 21:23

I can’t understand why so many PPs seem to be deliberately misunderstanding the OP. The child was not visiting a parent, they were with both parents visiting another inpatient. At no point has OP said that the visit shouldn’t have taken place or that the child shouldn’t be at the visit, just that the other inpatients were verbally aggressive and potentially volatile and she and her BF had to stop the child going on to the road a couple of times. Her concern was that there was a more suitable environment for the child e.g. the family room or the park. I don’t think she sounded judgmental at all just surprised and concerned that the child was in that environment and could get hurt or witness something quite unpleasant. As she has said, she has been in the position of her children visiting in such a hospital. OP has also said she is autistic and so she probably wanted a sounding board as she may sometimes not read a situation right. Asking what others thought makes sense in that context. I assume others are responding so defensively because of their own history.

OP, I think you’ve done the right thing and, as you thought, the child should not have been there and the family can be advised of their options for future visits. Well done.

Ditto.

Seems that a lot of posters use threads to vent irrational anger rather than to join a conversation. Isn’t it boring.

UndertheCedartree · 24/06/2022 20:13

HappyBinosaur · 24/06/2022 18:38

@Staynow I find your post offensive.
I don’t think it’s fair to compare my experience of visiting my mum in hospital to saying ‘I was smacked and I was fine’.
That is comparing my dad taking me to visit my unwell mum with my parents abusing me.
Also, I never said I was ‘fine’ but I am glad I went to see her as the alternative would have been worse.

I never suggested that the DC shouldn't visit, though. The situation was about the DC being in an unsafe environment.

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cheerypip · 24/06/2022 21:23

My partner is currently on a high dependency acute ward. I have to have prior approval to even take the children on site, in part because advance notice has to be given to all wards as some other patients are not allowed any contact with children, and therefore their leave has to be suspended while we are in the hospital grounds.

Bunnycat101 · 24/06/2022 22:10

My mum was sectioned many times. I remember my first visit at around 4. The hospital was bloody terrifying tbh. It was much better when we were allowed to walk outside. My own children are the same age as I was when I found out she was very Ill and it sort of breaks my heart to think about the separation and what I must have thought at such a young age. I don’t see why you’ve had such a hard time for worrying about the child. More people should worry about the experience of children in that situation.

UndertheCedartree · 25/06/2022 13:17

cheerypip · 24/06/2022 21:23

My partner is currently on a high dependency acute ward. I have to have prior approval to even take the children on site, in part because advance notice has to be given to all wards as some other patients are not allowed any contact with children, and therefore their leave has to be suspended while we are in the hospital grounds.

Wishing your family well 💐

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UndertheCedartree · 25/06/2022 13:20

Bunnycat101 · 24/06/2022 22:10

My mum was sectioned many times. I remember my first visit at around 4. The hospital was bloody terrifying tbh. It was much better when we were allowed to walk outside. My own children are the same age as I was when I found out she was very Ill and it sort of breaks my heart to think about the separation and what I must have thought at such a young age. I don’t see why you’ve had such a hard time for worrying about the child. More people should worry about the experience of children in that situation.

Thank you so much. My youngest was 5 when I was sectioned - it was a tough time for her (and her brother.) She is having play therapy now to deal with it. I'm sorry you had to experience that too 💐

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