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AIBU?

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Mick Lynch

575 replies

KangFang · 23/06/2022 13:08

Anyone else here loving his work?

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Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 08:53

Roussette · 25/06/2022 08:48

Did you live through it? ???

I did.

And I support workers rights. The gap between rich and poor is widening.

You support workers' rights, no matter what cost to inflation. Of course you do, you're a raging lefty. I'm sure the term Tory's friends will be trotted out soon. As I've said on here before, Labour's for the many not the few mantra goes right out the window when it comes to militant striking. No fucks are given for the impact on other businesses.

ivykaty44 · 25/06/2022 08:56

You support workers' rights, no matter what cost to inflation

inflation isn’t caused by wages rising, wages rising reduces the likelihood of a recession as workers then have disposable income to spend

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 08:57

ivykaty44 · 25/06/2022 08:56

You support workers' rights, no matter what cost to inflation

inflation isn’t caused by wages rising, wages rising reduces the likelihood of a recession as workers then have disposable income to spend

Can you explain the benefits, to the economy, on striking?

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 08:59

Another one who lived through the 1970s and supports the strikes. A bit of minor inconvenience that people don't notice never won anything. The unions have to play hard ball and be disruptive. Going to the government and asking nicely (cap in hand and forelocks tugged) wins fuck all.

If things start to fall apart, then that shows how valuable the services of the striking worker are and how we should respect them and pay them a decent wage that keeps pace with inflation. If Jacob Rees Mogg with his pretend ministerial post stopped turning up for work, would anyone notice?

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:00

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 08:53

You support workers' rights, no matter what cost to inflation. Of course you do, you're a raging lefty. I'm sure the term Tory's friends will be trotted out soon. As I've said on here before, Labour's for the many not the few mantra goes right out the window when it comes to militant striking. No fucks are given for the impact on other businesses.

Way to go. Just call posters 'raging lefties'.
Hilarious.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 25/06/2022 09:01

“Can you explain the benefits, to the economy, on [of?] striking?”

Yes, but you’re very rude so I don’t know if I will.

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 09:03

What is a "raging lefty"? If it means being angry about inequality, injustice and the actions of the "out of control shopping trolley" that is our PM and his cabal, then I am a raging lefty.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:03

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:00

Way to go. Just call posters 'raging lefties'.
Hilarious.

That's nothing compared to how you pile in on anyone who doesn't support Labour. Way to go for adults trying to bully others.

ivykaty44 · 25/06/2022 09:03

Can you explain the benefits, to the economy, on striking?

because accepting pay cuts is going to lead us into a recession that will last for longer, as lower wages when eventually are raised will have a much lower starting point

carefullycourageous · 25/06/2022 09:05

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 08:57

Can you explain the benefits, to the economy, on striking?

Your question is oversimplistic, whether deliberately or not.

'The economy' is not a fixed entity and is not the responsibility of a union or a worker. A government/country can have a low pay, low rights economy, or a high pay, high rights economy. I prefer the latter, I support worker's rights, I therefore support the strikes.

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:06

The CEOs of the 5 biggest rail companies took home more than £5million in pay last year.
And paid out more than £500M to shareholders before telling workers they had to take a real terms pay cut.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:07

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 09:03

What is a "raging lefty"? If it means being angry about inequality, injustice and the actions of the "out of control shopping trolley" that is our PM and his cabal, then I am a raging lefty.

Inequality and injustice? Greed and stubbornness more like. Then you wonder why Labour won't see No 10 for a long time. Greed isn't reserved just for the Tories but funny when it comes to Labour it gets revered. If you think this is the right time to be striking then I can see why you learn nothing from the winter of discontent or the Miners' strikes.

carefullycourageous · 25/06/2022 09:07

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 09:03

What is a "raging lefty"? If it means being angry about inequality, injustice and the actions of the "out of control shopping trolley" that is our PM and his cabal, then I am a raging lefty.

Me too.

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:08

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:03

That's nothing compared to how you pile in on anyone who doesn't support Labour. Way to go for adults trying to bully others.

You are confusing me with someone else.

I have not 'piled on' to anyone on this thread.

Unlike you. Have I insulted you? Called you a 'raging right winger' or any other unedifying term? No.

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:09

carefullycourageous · 25/06/2022 09:07

Me too.

Me three

carefullycourageous · 25/06/2022 09:12

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:07

Inequality and injustice? Greed and stubbornness more like. Then you wonder why Labour won't see No 10 for a long time. Greed isn't reserved just for the Tories but funny when it comes to Labour it gets revered. If you think this is the right time to be striking then I can see why you learn nothing from the winter of discontent or the Miners' strikes.

You are on the side of shareholders and not British workers and it's your right to hold that position.

Pensions are rising, bankers' bonuses are rising, shareholders' payouts are rising.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:15

Roussette · 25/06/2022 09:08

You are confusing me with someone else.

I have not 'piled on' to anyone on this thread.

Unlike you. Have I insulted you? Called you a 'raging right winger' or any other unedifying term? No.

On this thread, no. Hilarious that being called a raging lefty has caused such a stir. Could be worse, I could have called you scum or an apologist for scum.

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 09:15

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:07

Inequality and injustice? Greed and stubbornness more like. Then you wonder why Labour won't see No 10 for a long time. Greed isn't reserved just for the Tories but funny when it comes to Labour it gets revered. If you think this is the right time to be striking then I can see why you learn nothing from the winter of discontent or the Miners' strikes.

Well yes, I am angry about Johnson's greed and stubbornness too.

As for Labour not seeing No.10- if we had a fairer voting system, things would look very different and the choice of UK government would not be mainly decided by the affluent South of England (Wakefield has shown that the Red Wall turning blue won't last).

I live in Wales. We didn't vote for a Tory government, neither did Scotland, yet it is forced upon us.

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/06/2022 09:18

I don’t agree with his politics or with strikes generally.
he is clearly an intelligent, capable leader, though.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:18

carefullycourageous · 25/06/2022 09:12

You are on the side of shareholders and not British workers and it's your right to hold that position.

Pensions are rising, bankers' bonuses are rising, shareholders' payouts are rising.

I'm not and never have been, on the side of strikes. Public workers striking to offset the rise in cost of living? What about everyone else who is affected? It's a debate that goes round in circles. The thread asked if Lynch was great. I said no. I see him as an other unionist; negative and destructive.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:19

MrsSkylerWhite · 25/06/2022 09:18

I don’t agree with his politics or with strikes generally.
he is clearly an intelligent, capable leader, though.

He handles the media well.

Octomore · 25/06/2022 09:25

"Negative and destructive"?

It was unions that won many of the employment rights and protections that you now take for granted. Employers didn't give them out of the goodness of their hearts.

ancientgran · 25/06/2022 09:26

ClaudineClare · 25/06/2022 08:59

Another one who lived through the 1970s and supports the strikes. A bit of minor inconvenience that people don't notice never won anything. The unions have to play hard ball and be disruptive. Going to the government and asking nicely (cap in hand and forelocks tugged) wins fuck all.

If things start to fall apart, then that shows how valuable the services of the striking worker are and how we should respect them and pay them a decent wage that keeps pace with inflation. If Jacob Rees Mogg with his pretend ministerial post stopped turning up for work, would anyone notice?

I'm another one.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:29

Octomore · 25/06/2022 09:25

"Negative and destructive"?

It was unions that won many of the employment rights and protections that you now take for granted. Employers didn't give them out of the goodness of their hearts.

Striking causes huge disruption, inconvenience and misery. Added to a time when it's on the back end of a pandemic. Yeah, lots of positivity in that. Thousands of people's plans ruined. What joy. At least WFH will soften the blow. Shame there's nobody around with the balls of Thatcher this time around.

Callingoccupants · 25/06/2022 09:29

ancientgran · 25/06/2022 09:26

I'm another one.

80 per cent of you ..to be exact.

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