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Have just sent neighbour’s builder away

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Allthecoolusernamesaregone · 20/06/2022 14:35

Our neighbour said she was having work done and we agreed access and to have scaffolding in our garden. We knew it would be inconvenient, but the work was only due to take a few days.

We made sure paths etc were clear and the scaffolding was put up about 10 days before the work was due to start.

It makes access through our normal route very tight, and blocks the majority of light to the kitchen, but is about what we thought.

It’s worse at the moment due to a pre existing agreement to look after my friend’s rabbits, as their run takes up a lot of space, and I have to navigate a ‘squirrel style assault course’ to reach my washing line.

The building work didn’t start as planned, and we have now had the scaffolding up for one month. The Tesco delivery man can’t get his trolley through, so we meet in the garden ( yes, I know ‘first world’ problems!).

We didn’t know work would be starting today, but mid morning my dog
barked ( fortunately he was safely in the house). I saw that my back gate had been wedged open, and men were bringing things into the garden.

They knocked on the door to complain that there were some things stored close to one of the access areas. ( the access itself was clear). I have a postage stamp sized garden and with the scaffolding and the rabbit run I don’t really have anywhere else to move things. The one who was doing all the talking said something like ‘it’s on you if it gets ruined then’.

I asked him to make sure the gate was shut when they were not working in my garden due to my dog ( I will have to take him into the open plan front garden on a lead whilst they are working). He told me they weren’t going to be opening and shutting gates all the time.

I asked when they would be working and he said they would be here when they are here and it might be a day this week and then when they had time over a few weeks. He was almost aggressively vague.

I wasn’t happy, the scaffolding is already a pain, and over a period of a few weeks, with no prior notice, I can’t guarantee that no one will accidentally let the dog out not knowing they are there or have left the gate open.

The final straw came when he again banged on my door and demanded I move the rabbit run, which is about 18” away from the path, and not especially in the way. My husband is away and I couldn’t move it on my own even if I had space.

He said it was my garden and my responsibility to move stuff to give him access. He wanted to set up a cement mixer in that space, and plug it in in my garage. (The garage is normally kept locked.) He was very unpleasant.

I admit I lost my temper there. I told him I was pleased he realised it was my garden and as such I wanted him to remove himself and all of his stuff from it.

I have seen the mess sometimes left by mixing cement and if he had been reasonable I would probably have put up with it, but he was not, and he is not running it on my electricity.

He started ranting that he had a right to be there to get to next door’s job.

I told him that access had been granted with my permission and I was now withdrawing it, and he needed to leave.

He then said he was wasting his time dealing with a woman and wanted to speak to my husband.

At that stage I told him to Fuck off, and left saying I would be phoning the police.

I was on hold for 101 but was quite surprised to see him packing up his stuff and going!

My neighbour is at work and unaware of the confrontation. I have no idea how she will react.

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jeaux90 · 20/06/2022 15:59

I think you were really too nice to let the scaffolding go up. I let my neighbours builder come in and finish off the brick work from my side but they were tidy and then put the fence back up.

Honestly you did the right thing, the builder didn't just sound like a CF trying to use your power but an entitled, misogynistic prick too.

I'd find out if they can do the work from their side, I wouldn't be putting up with having that man anywhere on my property

Clymene · 20/06/2022 15:59

Well done for telling him to sod off. Unfortunately scaffolders are wankers who basically try and get their scaffolding up early and down late so they don't have to store it between jobs.

Scaffolding is a pain but not anywhere near as much of a pain of someone thinking he can put a bloody cement mixer in your garden. Cheeky of the man!

Irishfarmer · 20/06/2022 16:00

What a plank! Glad you told him to get lost. I hope your neighbour is very apologetic, although I don't think it is her fault she hopefully didn't know he was such a piece

riesenrad · 20/06/2022 16:00

He then said he was wasting his time dealing with a woman and wanted to speak to my husband

unbelievable. I would be so embarrassed if I were your neighbour and would tell him to get stuffed and I'd find someone else too. Hopefully they've not paid a deposit to him.

NewOrleansOrDie · 20/06/2022 16:00

Bloody well done. 🏅

diddl · 20/06/2022 16:02

Wanting to set up in your garden & use your electricity??!!

With the bloody price hike that has gone on?

And that's not access is it ffs!

Sswhinesthebest · 20/06/2022 16:04

I hope the neighbour doesn’t take her understandable annoyance, out on you!

Beautiful3 · 20/06/2022 16:05

You did the right thing. What a horrible builder. Don't agree to any more access, say it doesn't work for you because of the dog.

DoYouWantDecking · 20/06/2022 16:07

Wow - you did the right thing. Well done.

Make sure the gate has a sturdy lock on it right away.

PerfectlyQuiet · 20/06/2022 16:09

I would have told him to leave to but I would have sworn

JoanCandy · 20/06/2022 16:11

Can't wait for the update on this ! You are a badass, OP <applauds>

BruceAndNosh · 20/06/2022 16:11

It's quite likely that NDN has no idea what builder is like.

IncompleteSenten · 20/06/2022 16:12

YANBU.

'Access' is not the same as 'working from' and it's clear he was planning to do the latter.

Stay firm with the neighbour. The builder's attitude was appalling.

EsmeSusanOgg · 20/06/2022 16:12

I'm astounded that he thought he could demand your electricity! But after that brassneck, the rudeness and misogyny seems about part of the course. Yikes. YANBU.

PollyPeeves · 20/06/2022 16:12

Brilliant OP! Stick to your guns and don’t let that cretin back on your property!

Ireolu · 20/06/2022 16:14

Builder could not be arsed to work today, that's all I got from your OP. You did nothing wrong

riesenrad · 20/06/2022 16:18

Beautiful3 · 20/06/2022 16:05

You did the right thing. What a horrible builder. Don't agree to any more access, say it doesn't work for you because of the dog.

No, say it doesn't work for you because he's a rude, sexist arsehole and you are not having him on your property!

This has nothing to do with the dog, the rabbit or anything else.

diddl · 20/06/2022 16:18

Sswhinesthebest · 20/06/2022 16:04

I hope the neighbour doesn’t take her understandable annoyance, out on you!

It's possible that they didn't know he was turning up I guess-but if they did how did they think he would work without electricity I wonder?

Januarytoes · 20/06/2022 16:20

The builder was totally out of order.
I would give your neighbour the benefit of the doubt though, she probably told you the work would last a week because the builder told her that. He probably didn't mention that for him, a week meant 10 weeks of a half day of work per week.

Explain to your neighbour that you kindly gave permission for what she'd described - access and scaffolding for a week.
BUT
-it's been a month
-the builder says it will be at least several more weeks
-he wants more than just access to the walls, he wants to use your garden for the messy building stuff.
-he expects you to lift heavy things etc
-he didn't care about your dog or the rabbit
-he wants to use your electricity (and probably your water, right?)
-HE WAS NASTY AND AGGRESSIVE

Your neighbour may be horrified and apologetic. I would be.
She needs to get tough with her builder. Scaffolding is not cheap and if she is paying for the scaffolding someone needs to do the actual work as quickly as possible.

I recently complained to the council about a builder in my street. I was walking with my elderly neighbour to the shops and we had to step into the road as he was mixing up his concrete ACROSS THE PAVEMENT. There was the whole building site to mix concrete on! The council brought it up in the next planning meeting when more planning permission was sought for that house. Builders' mess and equipment was not to spill out of the building site.

ArmWrestlingWithChasNDave · 20/06/2022 16:24

I love an OP who isn't a wet lettuce! I hope your neighbour directs her anger where it belongs, but the signs aren't good... the fact that she hasn't bothered to apologise to you when you've had scaffolding up for a month.

Alphabet1spaghetti2 · 20/06/2022 16:24

diddl · 20/06/2022 16:18

It's possible that they didn't know he was turning up I guess-but if they did how did they think he would work without electricity I wonder?

Use a generator??

MistyRuins · 20/06/2022 16:26

Yanbu at all.

I hope your neighbour listens to your side, as I'm sure the builder will have spun it somehow.

ThisSceptredIsle · 20/06/2022 16:28

LittlestBaoBun · 20/06/2022 14:39

He's an entitled misogynistic cunt. Well done for seeing him off.

This.

TicTac80 · 20/06/2022 16:28

Well done for standing your ground! Really hope you get a chance soon to let the neighbour know what happened!

Allthecoolusernamesaregone · 20/06/2022 16:30

I have asked another neighbour for my neighbour’s number, and sent her a text.

The neighbour who gave me the number overheard some of the conversation, and also him calling someone (me?) a fucking bitch to his colleague.

The builders do need access to the scaffolding via my garden, and we have made sure the path is not blocked or impeded in any way.

We were happy to cooperate with them, as we did with the scaffolders.

The scaffolders were lovely. My neighbour was out then too ( she does work long hours) and I made them tea, and let them use my WC. I would have probably offered the same to the builders if his attitude had been different.

I have also spoken to my husband and he also thinks the builder was a CF. He said he would have told him the same. I somehow how think the builder would have acted differently if he had been.

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