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Have just sent neighbour’s builder away

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Allthecoolusernamesaregone · 20/06/2022 14:35

Our neighbour said she was having work done and we agreed access and to have scaffolding in our garden. We knew it would be inconvenient, but the work was only due to take a few days.

We made sure paths etc were clear and the scaffolding was put up about 10 days before the work was due to start.

It makes access through our normal route very tight, and blocks the majority of light to the kitchen, but is about what we thought.

It’s worse at the moment due to a pre existing agreement to look after my friend’s rabbits, as their run takes up a lot of space, and I have to navigate a ‘squirrel style assault course’ to reach my washing line.

The building work didn’t start as planned, and we have now had the scaffolding up for one month. The Tesco delivery man can’t get his trolley through, so we meet in the garden ( yes, I know ‘first world’ problems!).

We didn’t know work would be starting today, but mid morning my dog
barked ( fortunately he was safely in the house). I saw that my back gate had been wedged open, and men were bringing things into the garden.

They knocked on the door to complain that there were some things stored close to one of the access areas. ( the access itself was clear). I have a postage stamp sized garden and with the scaffolding and the rabbit run I don’t really have anywhere else to move things. The one who was doing all the talking said something like ‘it’s on you if it gets ruined then’.

I asked him to make sure the gate was shut when they were not working in my garden due to my dog ( I will have to take him into the open plan front garden on a lead whilst they are working). He told me they weren’t going to be opening and shutting gates all the time.

I asked when they would be working and he said they would be here when they are here and it might be a day this week and then when they had time over a few weeks. He was almost aggressively vague.

I wasn’t happy, the scaffolding is already a pain, and over a period of a few weeks, with no prior notice, I can’t guarantee that no one will accidentally let the dog out not knowing they are there or have left the gate open.

The final straw came when he again banged on my door and demanded I move the rabbit run, which is about 18” away from the path, and not especially in the way. My husband is away and I couldn’t move it on my own even if I had space.

He said it was my garden and my responsibility to move stuff to give him access. He wanted to set up a cement mixer in that space, and plug it in in my garage. (The garage is normally kept locked.) He was very unpleasant.

I admit I lost my temper there. I told him I was pleased he realised it was my garden and as such I wanted him to remove himself and all of his stuff from it.

I have seen the mess sometimes left by mixing cement and if he had been reasonable I would probably have put up with it, but he was not, and he is not running it on my electricity.

He started ranting that he had a right to be there to get to next door’s job.

I told him that access had been granted with my permission and I was now withdrawing it, and he needed to leave.

He then said he was wasting his time dealing with a woman and wanted to speak to my husband.

At that stage I told him to Fuck off, and left saying I would be phoning the police.

I was on hold for 101 but was quite surprised to see him packing up his stuff and going!

My neighbour is at work and unaware of the confrontation. I have no idea how she will react.

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saraclara · 20/06/2022 23:20

Phobiaphobic · 20/06/2022 23:02

I gotta say, OP, despite the apology during the phone call, your neighbour really is taking the piss.

How? She's clearly been let down by the various builders. She's not set out to be difficult. She asked a favour, OP agreed to it. The rest has been out of her hands.

coldchaincycle · 20/06/2022 23:23

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GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 20/06/2022 23:27

You agreed to them having having access for 10 days. This has exceeded that and they now want to install a cement mixer in your garden as well as the scaffolding, which would disturb the rabbit anyway?

Quite right in telling him to fuck off. Tell your your neighbour to pick off too.

poetryandwine · 20/06/2022 23:47

Good result so far, OP. I hope it continues to go well.

Unfortunately I am another with a cautionary tale of scaffolding. Ours was left up for almost a month after the job was over and like PPs I think this was because it was the easiest way for the firm to store the scaffolding until it was needed at the next job.

QuidditchThroughtheAges · 21/06/2022 00:48

Complete chancer! I wouldn't let him anywhere near your property again

knockyknees · 21/06/2022 01:02

ImAvingOops · 20/06/2022 20:31

You were mad letting your neighbour put all her scaffolding up in your garden in the first place. Builders rarely do anything on time and scaffolders have been known to leave scaffolding up for ages. I never understand why people massively inconvenience themselves for something they get zero benefit from.
Well done on turfing the builder out, but in all honesty I'd be telling the neighbours to get the scaffolding out of your garden now!

I agree. I wouldn't have agreed to the access in the first place, and this type of situation is exactly why.

Continuing to allow the access hasn't taught the builder or neighbour anything. You're still being inconvenienced for no reason at all, and have given the message that a half hearted apology (from the neighbour) is all it takes for you to back down.

Aquamarine1029 · 21/06/2022 01:20

LittlestBaoBun · 20/06/2022 14:39

He's an entitled misogynistic cunt. Well done for seeing him off.

Precisely this, and I would NEVER allow him back onto my property again. In fact, I would tell your neighbours to go fuck themselves, too. My property would be entirely off limits.

twoandcooplease · 21/06/2022 01:53

I think you held yourself fantastic

fUNNYfACE36 · 21/06/2022 02:32

Legally. If your neighbour requires scaffolding on, or access to your land for the purposes of maintaining, repairing or renewing his building they can get a court order to force this
(Not so for an extension though)

mathanxiety · 21/06/2022 04:04

Well done!!

YYY to getting the scaffolding out of your garden now. You agreed ten days.

Apart altogether from the shamelessly misogynistic cheeky fuckery, your home insurance will rise steeply if anyone tries climbing it or using it for the building work and has an accident. No way is a sub-sub contractor bonded or insured.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/06/2022 07:15

fUNNYfACE36 · 21/06/2022 02:32

Legally. If your neighbour requires scaffolding on, or access to your land for the purposes of maintaining, repairing or renewing his building they can get a court order to force this
(Not so for an extension though)

I presume everything has to be made good afterwards though. If I had to grant access I would expect it to be on my terms, the hours I agreed to with no use of my water, electricity etc.

Pullpverchuck · 21/06/2022 09:20

Fuck that he played the race card to your neighbour. I wouldn’t be letting anyone near my property because of that alone

Walkingalot · 21/06/2022 09:54

It's so refreshing to read about an issue where the OP has stood up for herself plus dealt with the issue via the neighbour as best she can, being reasonable but not letting them/builders take the piss.

MrJi · 21/06/2022 10:04

I agreed to have scaffolding in my garden while my neighbours did some building. They then built their house right next to the boundary, blocking light to my garden, and the scaffolding was in place for well over a year , rather than the month they had said at the start.
My friend had a total nightmare with scaffolding and builders from next door, the builders were peeing up against her wooden shed !!! She also had the “I’ll talk to your husband” plus overhearing builder calling her a bitch.
I would not agree to scaffolding again, it is a lot of trouble and mess and the neighbours are never grateful.
Your neighbour doesn’t sound anywhere near apologetic enough OP !

bluebell34567 · 21/06/2022 10:05

they usually do that.
set up the scaffolding and then disappear for days, weeks.

well done op. stand your ground and never let that happen again.

bluebell34567 · 21/06/2022 10:06

and the neighbours are never grateful. thats so true.

DivorcedAndDelighted · 21/06/2022 10:09

I doubt you'll have to worry about the scaffolding being left for long after they've finished at this time of year. It's peak time for outdoor decorating and anything else requiring good weather, so the scaffolders will probably have plenty of jobs to do and will want to move their equipment on sharpish.

bluebell34567 · 21/06/2022 10:12

maybe op should charge for everyday the scaffolding stays there.

EggRollsForever · 21/06/2022 10:26

Good for you for standing up to this @Allthecoolusernamesaregone I have a family member who has had scaffolding on her house for 9 months now! Too many cowboys out there in the wake of Covid. She has had people come and go to do bits and bobs as time allows for them. It has caused chaos. I expect you get to a point where you want to see it out as opposed to starting it all over again.

StridTheKiller · 21/06/2022 10:36

OP I salute you.

Mennex · 21/06/2022 11:02

Well done on your calm and factual response OP. I hope you will be permanently removing access to your back garden.

Allthecoolusernamesaregone · 21/06/2022 11:59

Pullpverchuck · 21/06/2022 09:20

Fuck that he played the race card to your neighbour. I wouldn’t be letting anyone near my property because of that alone

I think that accusation upset me more than anything he said directly to me. I know he was just throwing out anything to cover his back, but that was most shocking.

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Allthecoolusernamesaregone · 21/06/2022 12:05

SeasonFinale · 20/06/2022 19:32

The reality is even if the scaffolding overhangs your garden then they can access it by ladder from her side and there will be no need to access your garden at all.

Actually you are right. Thank you.

It is the poles which need to be in my garden causing the partial obstruction of my doorway, but I have had a long look today and with some slight adjustments there is no reason why the ladders shouldn’t be in her garden.
It will certainly make things easier with the dog when the builders finally start, as he will bark practically non stop if he sees strangers moving around in our garden.

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Notmytiep · 21/06/2022 12:13

DivorcedAndDelighted · 21/06/2022 10:09

I doubt you'll have to worry about the scaffolding being left for long after they've finished at this time of year. It's peak time for outdoor decorating and anything else requiring good weather, so the scaffolders will probably have plenty of jobs to do and will want to move their equipment on sharpish.

Agree with this, Ours came down the day after the work was completed.

iwantmyownicecreamvan · 21/06/2022 12:31

Notmytiep · 21/06/2022 12:13

Agree with this, Ours came down the day after the work was completed.

Mine's still up 10 days later. 🙁