Couple murdered by neighbour over parking row

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Can't help think of the poor couple who were stabbed to death by their neighbour over a parking space last year. Their children were in bed asleep.

The neighbour has been found guilty this week. He was never going to get away with it. He went home and phoned the police and told them what he had done. Very hard to understand how he couldn't have cared less about their children or his own children or going to prison.

Anyway got me thinking have you ever had really terrible arguments with neighbours that escalated. Have you ever put up and shut up because you were or are afraid of the neighbours and don't want any trouble.

Apparently parking spaces are really high on the list of neighbour arguments. I guess you never really expect to be killed but these days does it make you wary?

The lady in the flat above me has a restraining order against her exh for attempting to strangle her amongst other things. He visited & I heard shouting, banging, children crying, so I called the police specifically asking to remain anonymous. They turned up & told her who reported it & now the violent exh knows too. He tried to break the lock into the communal entrance. I'm moving and never reporting anything again.

@Nomad916 the police are dreadful. They told a neighbour I reported her abuse of another neighbour.

Anyway when she tried to verbally abuse me another (male) neighbour spoke up and threatened her with another noise complaint. Making it clear I wasn't the only one who complained about her behaviour.

I later found out various neighbours had complained to different agencies at different times over her behaviour but mine was the only one taken seriously as it involved somone else's small child.

The neighbour she was abusing with the child moved first out of fear.

@Nomad916 the restraining order should have meant he shouldn't be anywhere near the entire building so in theory you should have been protected. In reality they do SFA if the perpetuator won't obey them.

You keep your mouth shut and your head down.
You don't argue back.
You don't call the police.
You just take it up the arse and be grateful that's all you're getting.

I'm long out of it now and by all accounts it has become much quieter over the years but when I was a kid it was hell.
Windows put through, street fights, dogs roaming round, toddlers in the street with a bottle of tea and no parent, robbing.
And the worst thing of all was the 5 year old who liked to torture animals.

Sometimes threads on here describe nightmare neighbours and the some of the advice makes me think yeah, that's how you get stabbed.

I feel for you.
My cat was poisoned luckily he survived but the police don't do anything
Its fucking awful how it's not taken seriously.

It's been quiet here but I know we're due a recurrence I can feel it.

In my street all houses have a drive for 2 cars, then we have 8 spaces allocated for the flats & 6 for communal/visitor use.

We have one neighbour that uses the flats & communal parking area as his own personal junkyard - boats, caravans, vans & cars (mostly without tax or MOT) taking up half the spaces. They're notorious for being arseholes of the highest order they tend to leave me alone but in the 6 years I've lived here at least 3 people have moved because if them - they walked into a neighbours house & gave the guy a battering when it went to court they got a £250 fine!!!!

They complained to the HA because another neighbour was tidying up the communal garden areas - cutting grass, putting planters out etc & he was told to stop so now even the gardens are part of the junkyard!

Then there's the guy illegally living with his girlfriend who parks 2 cars in the spaces for flats because his work van is in her drive.

We now have new neighbours, a young couple with a small child in a 2 bed flat yet they have a van & 3 cars so the parking is getting worse by the day!

Blimey, you read all that and honestly I’m considering getting rid of my car not sure I can cope with the hassle.

our streets a nightmare for parking but at least everyone is kind to each other about it.

I read he got 38 years. He absolutely deserves it but I still think it’s a shame that the whole thing escalated needlessly and all those lives ruined over such a small thing.

Jesus Christ they're sone batshit crazy people around!

It didn't 'escalate' HE escalated it. All the footage I've seen is him abusing a woman (fucking cunt, fucking fat bitch). She doesn't swear at him, she says 'You don't own the road, Collin'.

Sometimes threads on here describe nightmare neighbours and the some of the advice makes me think yeah, that's how you get stabbed.

This^

I was advised to 'be brave' and report the thugs renting the house next door, even though I'm on my own with children. No chance!

I was advised to 'be brave' and report the thugs renting the house next door, even though I'm on my own with children. No chance!

You can report anonymously. But let it stay on your conscience I guess.

And if the police get involved in the reporting your details don't remain anonymous.

All the OP could realistically do is report to the landlord or estate agent. Then hope she and a few other people have complained enough so when the tenants contract is up for renewal, it isn't.

@arganyak I absolutely would NOT report... I live next door to a large family (8+ children) and there was serious violence there (amongst other things)

I was a teacher and felt it was my duty to report some really really awful things.

SS told them who had rung them.

I have spent the last three years trying to move and the only help I have been offered are six foot plus fences.

They have made my life hell and nothing has changed. Do it when you leave. Or emigrate.

They would know it was me. They're friendly with the neighbour on the other side, who I'm guessing is oblivious to what's going on, or doesn't care.

I won't have my own children being targeted, or their mother, on my conscience either.

They have made my life hell and nothing has changed. Do it when you leave. Or emigrate.

I suspect that would be the best case scenario if I reported while I'm here. I absolutely agree!

I'm sure you mean well, meeras. You might think twice if you were in my shoes though. I wouldn't feel safe.

I've thought about how to word it so they wouldn't know it was me, or not to say I was a neighbour, but it can't be done. So it will have to wait.

I have sold our house and waiting for moving into a new house soon - CANNOT WAIT!!
Why move? only because of the idiot neighbour from hell.
After years of suffering and restlessness, I have reached the conclusion that there is no way to get away from a horrible neighbour but only to move away from there.
Surprisingly, in their eyes, they are good ones and victims😩
I didnt know smoking drugs in the garden, constant breach of covid restrictions, harassing neighbour - whatever they do are OK because tits their highly mighty 'Portuguese' lifestyle but others are - just taking a piss.
For them, its ok to harass or assault the old Asian woman who lives alone with kids (me).

I have no idea what the mental state was when the man murdered the couple, but I guess in his brain, they were evil and he needed to get rid of them.

Home should be the place you feel safe but in reality, pp hate each other or even kill each other just because you choose to live in the neighbourhood - I just cannot think of any words to describe my frustration.

@Nothappyatwork my downstairs neighbour had to get rid of her car last year & was thinking about replacing it but since the new ones have moved in she's said she won't bother - she struggles with mobility issues & has elderly parents so really does need a car.

I've put in for a move but could take years for that & I've no chance of being able to buy anything other than a crappy ex-council house in a crappy area which could be even worse.

The notorious family are untouchable because the housing officer is scared of them so nothing is ever done.

Yeah right, I reported my cousins drugtaking and being on cocaine whilst driving with her toddler in the back of the car and the social worker left the notes on the sofa with all my details on them whilst she went for a Pee at cousins house.

was it an accident, was it on purpose we will never know.

To common these days got the same issue

There's also footage of him at the beginning of the dispute calmly and politely explaining to her why it was causing problems when she parked there. She knew that she's shouldn't be parking there, she knew that it was causing issues for her neighbors, she just didn't care. So, I absolutely do think that the Chaples escalated the situation too.

This.

Once he told her it was difficult for him to park because of their parking two cars in their one space, they were rude and continued to park there. Normal nice neighbours would have stopped parking inconsiderately if they knew it was causing issues for their neighbour. They didn't deserve to die of course, but they were not good neighbours. If my neighbour asked me not to park in a way that made their life difficult (and was illegal anyway) I would not continue doing it or tell them that they didn't "own the road".

I used to live very near a Tube station and before they introduced resident parking permits it was a nightmare with commuters parking, half on pavements, across corners etc.

But worse were our downstairs neighbours - two guys who had three cars and when one car drove off they would move one of the other cars a bit nearer so no one else could get in the space. It was galling to see at least two of their cars constantly right in front of the flats, like reserved parking places!

Talk about selfish.

She knew that she's shouldn't be parking there, she knew that it was causing issues for her neighbors, she just didn't care. So, I absolutely do think that the Chaples escalated the situation too.

@P205 Nope, absolutely nothing they did even begins to justify their murders.