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Couple murdered by neighbour over parking row

213 replies

dottypotter · 19/06/2022 16:27

Can't help think of the poor couple who were stabbed to death by their neighbour over a parking space last year. Their children were in bed asleep.

The neighbour has been found guilty this week. He was never going to get away with it. He went home and phoned the police and told them what he had done. Very hard to understand how he couldn't have cared less about their children or his own children or going to prison.

Anyway got me thinking have you ever had really terrible arguments with neighbours that escalated. Have you ever put up and shut up because you were or are afraid of the neighbours and don't want any trouble.

Apparently parking spaces are really high on the list of neighbour arguments. I guess you never really expect to be killed but these days does it make you wary?

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Nothappyatwork · 19/06/2022 17:45

Not a neighbour but I’ve had a date turn weird to the point where I’ve literally had sex with him to get him out the house. just so many situations these days where women feel their lives are actually at risk if they stand up for themselves, was it always like this ?

MarvelMrs · 19/06/2022 17:53

A PP has a good point about posts on here whipping people up to aggravate others in the road but asserting their rights, blocking CFers in, etc. It might not always be a good or safe idea.
Another PP also suggested it might get much worse as people need to park close to properties to charge their vehicles. This is also not well considered with town planning and development. A couple of token charging points are not going to cut it!

QuidditchThroughtheAges · 19/06/2022 17:58

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus haha the image this conjured in my head is quite something!

MsTSwift · 19/06/2022 18:00

You never know who you are dealing with. Remember a case where an elderly man was shot by another elderly man in a row about allotments. The murderer was an elderly Polish man who had killed several men in WW2 and had kept his pistol.

EmmaH2022 · 19/06/2022 18:04

The police don’t do anything do they?

mum is having trouble with an idiot who keeps blocking her in. I think he thinks she’s an easy mark due to age. But I don’t know what to do about it either.

EmmaH2022 · 19/06/2022 18:05

Nothappyatwork · 19/06/2022 17:45

Not a neighbour but I’ve had a date turn weird to the point where I’ve literally had sex with him to get him out the house. just so many situations these days where women feel their lives are actually at risk if they stand up for themselves, was it always like this ?

Isn’t that risking him staying in the house longer?!

StaunchMomma · 19/06/2022 18:06

Not neighbours but I had a friend in secondary school who had an argument with his girlfriend's Dad and stabbed him. He was a lovely kid and none of us could believe he had it in him but he did it and went down for life, rightfully. He got out a couple of years ago.

His poor girlfriend lost her Dad just because her boyfriend couldn't accept her Dad stopping him from seeing her after an argument. She was a lovely girl. Unimaginable.

Many lives changed forever in a couple of minutes. Just dreadful.

dottypotter · 19/06/2022 18:07

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The jury didn't believe that.

I think his wife told him she wanted a trial separation that night.

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mam0918 · 19/06/2022 18:07

Our old neighbor was insane.

Our house was vacant when he bought his house and we moved in a year or so later. He was super controlling telling us what we can and cant do, he spoke to me as if he was my father with that 'under my roof' attitude for some bizaare reason and even gave me curfews and would bang on the windows/door if my lights where on 'after bedtime'. Im a fully grown woman I dont need a neighbor to tell me I must be in bed and lights off by 9pm ffs.

He had been using our parking spot aswell as his own (as him and his wife had huge matching his and hers SUVs) while the house was unlived in and for the first few years I didnt have a car but as soon as I got one it really esculated. He came round kicked my door in and I phoned the police as he was screaming at me 'I'll sort yous out you little bitch'. Well he got slapped with a no contact order and told to stay away from us. More bizaarely I was told by police to just give him my parking spot and to park on the main road so as to not 'antagonise' him.

Well my car got broken into parked on the main road and when the police came out they asked why it wasnt parked in my spot... maybe because THEY told me not too lest my psycho neighbor threaten me and my toddler again, I go no help from the police about the break in or any damage done by the neighbor at any point.

They seemed like they would just side with him to 'keep the peace'.

broccolicheese · 19/06/2022 18:10

We had a neighbour who would park overhanging their drive and blocking ours, they would regularly have visitors park behind their car and block our drive and it was SO annoying. If I was driving home and had something like that shopping with me, I would feel anxious at the thought of if I would be able to park or not. They’d always move the car when I asked but I don’t think I should have had to ask. Anyway, one day after an awful day and I had some heavy tools to carry into the house and they were blocking my drive, the neighbour was outside and I was so cross, I ended up just letting ripping and shouting at them, I felt awful about it and apologised later but they didn’t do it again.

whynotwhatknot · 19/06/2022 18:11

What made me laug(sarcastically) is after the verdict the police stated please dont get involved with squabbles phone us

over parking? they do fuck all as if saying the neighbours annoyed with me will get them out

dottypotter · 19/06/2022 18:12

Womencanlift · 19/06/2022 17:02

Makes you think of all the parking threads on here where posters whip up the drama without thinking that this is someone’s real life

Maybe this story is something we should all think about the next time people start suggesting weird and wonderful suggestions for posters to wind up their neighbours

Exactly you never know who your dealing with. Same as ppl often encourage ppl to send antagonising texts in response
You never know.

Had our fair share of neighbour problems. Could have really got bad if we had been more aggressive etc. Things can blow over but makes you think.

In this case I wasn't sure how he got into their house but still he must have done.

Poor kids growing up without mum and dad. Was it really worth it

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whynotwhatknot · 19/06/2022 18:13

mam0918 · 19/06/2022 18:07

Our old neighbor was insane.

Our house was vacant when he bought his house and we moved in a year or so later. He was super controlling telling us what we can and cant do, he spoke to me as if he was my father with that 'under my roof' attitude for some bizaare reason and even gave me curfews and would bang on the windows/door if my lights where on 'after bedtime'. Im a fully grown woman I dont need a neighbor to tell me I must be in bed and lights off by 9pm ffs.

He had been using our parking spot aswell as his own (as him and his wife had huge matching his and hers SUVs) while the house was unlived in and for the first few years I didnt have a car but as soon as I got one it really esculated. He came round kicked my door in and I phoned the police as he was screaming at me 'I'll sort yous out you little bitch'. Well he got slapped with a no contact order and told to stay away from us. More bizaarely I was told by police to just give him my parking spot and to park on the main road so as to not 'antagonise' him.

Well my car got broken into parked on the main road and when the police came out they asked why it wasnt parked in my spot... maybe because THEY told me not too lest my psycho neighbor threaten me and my toddler again, I go no help from the police about the break in or any damage done by the neighbor at any point.

They seemed like they would just side with him to 'keep the peace'.

exactly my point they didnt help you

disgusting

catscatscurrantscurrants · 19/06/2022 18:13

Some years ago, I lived on a street of nice little houses. Everyone was okay and got along, except for 2 houses lived in by drug dealers. Reporting them to the police got us nowhere, even when they were dealing openly in the street, and threatening violence. They were unpredictable, vicious and menacing, and everyone was wary of them. The only thing that produced any action was one night when all hell broke loose, and my elderly NDN came to the back door crying in fear. I brought her in, and we rang the police as men were hitting each other with baseball bats and metal bars out on the street, having a full-on battle. I'd had enough after that and moved away; she sold up and went to live with her son. As far as I know, the drug dealers are still there, merrily carrying on. Karma is really taking its time catching up with them.

dick27 · 19/06/2022 18:18

A distant relative was killed by a neighbour after numerous rows. The police really do need to take 'civil' matters more seriously before they escalate into criminal ones.

arganyak · 19/06/2022 18:20

YABU for not calling social services about 2 children in need.

@Meraas I know I am 😨. But I have children of my own, and I'm on my own (dh works away) and I'm genuinely afraid of repercussions for us.

I'll do it the minute we move, later this year. Not much longer I hope.

Highfivemum · 19/06/2022 18:23

Tragic case. Having witnessed what bad neighbours can do to someone’s life and sanity I understand how it can escalate though. Not saying it was justified obviously or that this was the case but more needs to be done to help neighbour disputes.

Joeblack066 · 19/06/2022 18:28

In 1989 I had elderly neighbours, a couple and her sister. I also had 2 toddlers. I used to pick up shopping etc for them.
he died suddenly- we did everything for them- even hired a car at our own expense to ferry her about. Sorted the death Cert, the funeral etc.
a few weeks after, she stared screaming at me if I went outside. Blue murder. I was all sorts of devils. Then I got a solicitors letter telling me that I must stop my children screaming and marauding in the back yard. I rang them and asked what age they thought the children were. Teens they said. 3 and 2 said I. They apologised but she continued to scream at them and me. I was pregnant too. I tried to get her some help but to no avail. We moved house entirely because of her. Absolute nightmare.

Bananaman123 · 19/06/2022 18:32

I was at a market in Glasgow many years ago, there was a dispute over parking and the older lady died, awful

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4510401.stm

Hutchy16 · 19/06/2022 18:32

BunnyMum2000 · 19/06/2022 16:53

My neighbour is evil. She assaulted me, in front of my 2 young children.

I would love to move but its just to expensive (stamp duty etc).

I still have anxiety about it :-(

If this is true why didn’t you get a restraining order? Would that mean she was forced to move?

Nofreshstarthere22 · 19/06/2022 18:35

Old neighbour, didnt like us using our garden, during the day, in lockdown, she moved🥳

Another neighbour would feed our cats and let them in her house, when I asked her not to all hell broke loose, accusing us of mis treating our very pampered cats, we moved

SavoyCabbage · 19/06/2022 18:39

* If this is true why didn’t you get a restraining order? Would that mean she was forced to move?*

Because the police take absolutely no notice.

None.

At all.

I offered them the spit from my neighbour off my babies face as evidence but they still weren't interested.

Mine set fire to our front door and blocked it so we couldn't get out.

After that we were offered mediation. Him and me. Mediation! He tried to fucking kill us!

BunnyMum2000 · 19/06/2022 18:45

Hutchy16 · 19/06/2022 18:32

If this is true why didn’t you get a restraining order? Would that mean she was forced to move?

I called the police .. but they weren't all the that interested ...... they gave her a "community resolution disposal record" .. which is just a slap on the wrist.

I try to just pretend she's invisible now.. but it still hard to turn of the worry/anxiety in my brain sometimes.

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