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AIBU?

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To be irked by this presumption about slim people?

173 replies

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:06

I've seen a lot of threads on MN over the years discussing weight and diets, and they are often filled with statements such as "all of the slim people I know don't care about food, don't talk about it and use it only as fuel"

I can only speak for myself, ultimately, but I don't know one slim person who doesn't care about food. There is also a presumption that very slim people, especially over the age of 35 are all on strict, joyless diet regimes. It simply isn't true. Many, many people over 35 enjoy healthy, balanced and tasty meals, involving snacks, moderate alcohol use and the occasional junk treat. Perhaps 'moderate' is the word but not always!, but slenderness over 35 is NOT always intentional.

There are of course similar, ignorant presumptions about overweight/obese people, which describe them as lacking in willpower (I think overweight people have fucking awesome willpower a lot of the time, more so than I, and few people appreciate that fact).

But the idea that slim/thin individuals derive no pleasure from food is incredibly ignorant. Perhaps it is difficult to understand if one is constantly trying to loose weight and struggling, it must seem like a slender person is suffering too to achieve their weight?

It simply doesn't work like that, even though there are thin people who count every morsel and claim they have to fight to keep weight off - this is not a fast rule as we age. I think many different factors affect appetite, from gut biome to metabolism, and no two people are the same. I am late 40's and struggle sometimes to keep weight on, but I love my food with the same sensual pleasure that others do who are all different body sizes.

I just don't think we can make assumptions about what goes on with anyone's body. It is as ignorant as claiming all fat people are lazy, which we know is utter hogwash.

I once mentioned in a thread about carbs that I enjoyed a small amount every odd day, that I ate intuitively and enjoyed my meals - and was accused by several in the thread of fooling myself, that I was possibly even disordered because I was 1 lb underweight. Nobody would accept that I enjoyed pasta and toasted sourdough, that I didn't have to work my arse off to stay slim. Likewise, I feel it is wrong to presume a larger person shovels junk down every week. We are all just so, so different. What works for one won't work for another. The west is obsessed with restriction and exclusion of entire food groups and it doesn't bode well. But the persistent view of slim people living austere, joyless lives is not only insulting, it betrays a certain anger towards them, too.

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QOD · 16/06/2022 14:28

agreed. i follow labia lady on instagram, she of Solomon sister fame, only because I like the crossover - anyway, she is tiny framed, tall and slim- eats endless junk (admits to it) and says it is just how she is. She has accepoted it but people message her unkindly about being thin etc and dark eye bags... my daughter has awful dark eye bags, hates it - its just their pale skin tone

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:29

I have seen plenty threads on MN over the years with the title "what do thin people eat?"

This doesnt look like people are not interested in what others eat to me!

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Pastaa · 16/06/2022 14:30

For example, the slim people I know often forget to eat or it can be simply a nutritional bar or a piece of fruit. They'd rather eat nothing if the offer is not to their liking. Someone who likes food in my view is someone who will find enjoyment in food at every opportunity and there is very little they don't eat (health, ethical and religious issues excluded)

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:30

Labia Lady is an inspired name Grin

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NoodleNooNoo · 16/06/2022 14:37

It seems that you are irritated that people assume you have worked hard for your figure but you want us all to know it didnt take any hard work at all????

5128gap · 16/06/2022 14:41

I'm slim now but haven't always been, and ime how fat I am is directly related to how many calories I consume. It makes not a scrap of difference whether the calories come from protein, carbs or Mars bars.
So I need to balance how fat I want to be with how much food i want to eat, and how calorific the food is.
If I want to stay at my current weight due to my age, build and lifestyle, I can't eat more than 1700 calories per day. If I want to eat a lot of food then I have to make sure it has a lower caloric value. If I want to eat high calorie food I can't eat much of it.
So anyone assuming I eat a restrictive diet is right sometimes, and anyone assuming I eat tiny portions is also right sometimes.
As to joyless, well, at present I get more 'joy' being slim to eating what I like. Should that change, I'll eat more and sacrifice being slim.

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:42

NoodleNooNoo · 16/06/2022 14:37

It seems that you are irritated that people assume you have worked hard for your figure but you want us all to know it didnt take any hard work at all????

Interesting comment! Yes, my life is so empty that I can only derive pleasure driving attention to my size on an anonymous forum.

I think your comments speaks volumes tbh.

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JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:44

Why do you care what they think? I don't understand.

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:45

Honestly, would the people leaving snarky comments do so if I had said I was a size 18? Sometimes it is difficult to have a decent discussion on here, it can be like a hornets nest. But yeh, it's AIBU, so whatever. Shame really as it's an interesting thing, socially, to think about.

So yet another presumption above - I must be boasting. Thin people only mention their weight on MN if they are bragging. OK.

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lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:46

JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:44

Why do you care what they think? I don't understand.

I suggest you dont tax yourself too much then, it isn't rocket science.

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JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:48

You sound like your blood sugar is low @lolliwillowes have a Biscuit

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 16/06/2022 14:50

Every single slim woman I know over the age of 40 has to put some effort into maintaining it, are careful with portions and carbs and/or exercise. And what they do not do is eat purely for pleasure i.e. when they are not hungry but are eating for an emotional reason instead. That is more the point, rather than describing it as eating just for fuel.

Chaoslatte · 16/06/2022 14:50

I was with you until you said you only have a small amount of carbs every few days. Cutting out food groups IS disordered and joyless. Sick of this website’s obsession with low carb diets. Carbs are not the enemy!

ImplementingTheDennisSystem · 16/06/2022 14:51

Yes this annoys me too!

I'm 38 and a size 10 and have been roughly this size and shape since my early 20s.

I LOVE food! It's one of my greatest pleasures in life. I'm married to an excellent cook and we eat delishious food every day. Holidays are based around food, as is our social life.
But I:

  • eat sensible portions. I don't have that 'thing' that makes me want to pig out.
  • have always been very active. It was the gym in my 20s. Then I cycled to and from work for 5 years. I've done a daily dog walk for 12 years. I run, cycle, kayak, hike - you name it, if its outdoors in nature, I'm there!

As such, I've never tried a diet in my life and am baffled by the entire culture of dieting.

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:52

JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:48

You sound like your blood sugar is low @lolliwillowes have a Biscuit

Gosh, that's almost as vile as the slurs aimed at large people. Grow up fgs.

What an odd site this is. I have not put anyone down or judged anyone's weight. Perhaps I am not used to being met by this level of hostility over such a benign query.

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FlibbertyGiblets · 16/06/2022 14:52

I do think Jane has asked an interesting question...why DO you care what internet random think about you?

Staynow · 16/06/2022 14:53

I'm skinny and I enjoy food, I don't have to worry about eating too much because I just stop when I'm full. I eat whatever I want but I try to eat healthily most of the time (although I have a penchant for Cadburys chocolate triffles and always eat both at the same time).

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:53

Chaoslatte · 16/06/2022 14:50

I was with you until you said you only have a small amount of carbs every few days. Cutting out food groups IS disordered and joyless. Sick of this website’s obsession with low carb diets. Carbs are not the enemy!

so going with my natural appetite is restrictive? I eat moderate carbs so i must be eliminating a food group. Sounds logical!

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JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:54

Gosh, that's almost as vile as the slurs aimed at large people. Grow up fgs.
Just observing you sound hangry.

DWofMN · 16/06/2022 14:54

MsOllie · 16/06/2022 14:15

I think people presume about everything
The GP once told me to do some gentle walking. At that time I was with a PT twice a week, lifting heavy weights, doing spin class, aerial hoop, pole fitness and riding my horse. Not sure where I was meant to fit the walking in

I agree with this. My GP told me (aged 24) to try walking to work to get some exercise in when I mentioned that I had unexplained weight gain. Not only did I already walk to and from work, and do a job that involves being on my feet all day, I'd run a marathon two weeks prior (which is why I was so confused as to how I'd gained almost 3 stone in six months). The GP just refused to believe I'd been exercising - I had a literal medal! Turns out I had bowel cancer.

lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:56

JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:54

Gosh, that's almost as vile as the slurs aimed at large people. Grow up fgs.
Just observing you sound hangry.

honestly are you not aware what your comment sounds like? It is rude, childish and bloody weird.

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lolliwillowes · 16/06/2022 14:57

DWofMN · 16/06/2022 14:54

I agree with this. My GP told me (aged 24) to try walking to work to get some exercise in when I mentioned that I had unexplained weight gain. Not only did I already walk to and from work, and do a job that involves being on my feet all day, I'd run a marathon two weeks prior (which is why I was so confused as to how I'd gained almost 3 stone in six months). The GP just refused to believe I'd been exercising - I had a literal medal! Turns out I had bowel cancer.

that's harsh. I hope you are doing ok now?
There are some insane attitudes towards weight gain. I'm sorry to hear that.

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JaneJeffer · 16/06/2022 14:58

Ok hope someone comes along to agree with everything you say. Have a nice day.

SirenSays · 16/06/2022 14:58

I don't think you're wrong at all OP. I eat a very varied diet with zero restrictions except things I don't like to eat.
Yet I've seen so many comments here saying that anyone slim must have ED, eat like a bird, restrict food, count calories, obsess over the gym and working out...

It's not just here either. In one of my first jobs I was bullied constantly because I was too slim for "fat club" with the other staff.

TabithaTittlemouse · 16/06/2022 14:59

I’ve been thinking about this. Before I start I want to say that I did not and do not have an eating disorder.

Until recently I was underweight and didn’t really think about food much, didn’t really interest me. Others spoke to me a lot about food!
Now I am at a healthy weight and do think about food and enjoy food, people don’t talk about it.
I am not allowed to moan about clothes fitting me differently or having grown out of my favourite dress because I am a ‘healthy weight’.