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When did you know your parents do not love you

127 replies

NEVERwilnever · 15/06/2022 15:46

Accepting my parents have never loved me has taken me up until now in my early 40s. It's always been about them. My entire family is self-absorbed, competitive and generally toxic to an extent I fear they may harm my children.

I am no contact because I tried all I could, but nothing can ever change what is.

How long did it take you to accept it? Is there anything that triggered?

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Dinosauratemydaffodils · 18/06/2022 22:33

When she locked me in the bathroom screaming as a baby, when she left me places in the hope that someone would keep me and when they didn't she told me how ugly my olive skin and almost black hair was. When she berated me for not being a cot death statistic. When I watched my dad almost bleed to death from the stairs because their drama was more important than me (I was 4 and then she made me help scrub the blood from the lino). When she deliberately smashed the little pottery hedgehog I was so proud of making. When she forgot to pick me up from school. When she left the country to return to the UK whilst I was at school without a key and dad was on deployment. When she shrugged off the sexual harassment and abuse that going through puberty on a military base in the late 80s/early 90s caused. Apparently it was perfectly normal for dad's boss to wrestle with me on my bedroom floor. When I was raped and she came to see me in hospital angry for making a scene, for being a nuisance. The sad stupid thing is I know she never loved me but I'm so desperate for a mother, to be loved unconditionally that it taints all my other relationships. Dh and my last psychologist despise her but I'm stuck in desperate little girl mode not understanding what I did wrong. I look at my own daughter (currently 4 who looks exactly like me) and I cry.

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 18/06/2022 22:34

Try reading People of the Lie it changed my life. I believe some people are inherently evil and you should have nothing to do with them.

LifeInsideMyhead · 18/06/2022 22:35

Oh orchards yes .... Ive consciouslrealised that so stopped trying to do the pick me dance.... im 80 percent better. But its still there sometimes. The sad hope.

lostintheglowofmotherhood · 18/06/2022 22:38

There were always signs,
What really did it was realising that I had to do everything the opposite of the way that I was parented for my children made it glaringly obvious.
You just don't physically, mentally and emotionally abuse your child, and allow them to suffer SA and really love them do you?
It's made parenthood fucking horrific, every good decision I've made (plenty I am proud to say!) For my children has lead to the realisation that it is instinctual to me to do the best for my kids, but wasn't for my mum, but its also lead to OCD in me. I constantly put myself through the wringer analysing if there's anything I could do better.

With my dad. Him saying he fled the country to not pay CSA for me. He proudly says it often.

LifeInsideMyhead · 18/06/2022 22:38

Yes I recognise that - "reverting to little girl mode wondering what I did wring" and then somehow if i can change they might give me attention...

gamerchick · 18/06/2022 22:49

My first ever memory was fear. When my sibling was born who's 2 years younger than me. I remember her face looking as she held that tiny baby and didn't know what to do with myself.

Being around her sucked, I left home as soon as I could.

Fucking her off was the best thing I ever did I'd recommend it to anyone. Especially as they age and need care, get out before that happens. You reap what you sow with your kids.

Plinkyplankyplonk · 18/06/2022 23:03

Around 6/7 I think, it doesn't really bother me now but my childhood was horrendous

Justthisonceharold · 18/06/2022 23:05

Actually, I've just remembered another very specific moment, from much earlier in life. Must have been about 7 or 8. I'd committed some terrible sin in her eyes (bearing in mind how timid I was, it can't have been anything of consequence). She got out a pad of paper, wrote a letter and marched me to the postbox with her to post it. She told me the letter was to have me sent away to a children's home. I can recall being terrified.

I'm glad she's not alive any more.

Itsallchange · 18/06/2022 23:06

Finally when she came to tell me off because I’d considered committing suicide and my sister had rung her as she was really worried about me…..that day made me realise she never really wanted me, she only needed me when I was useful to her, and we are now pretty much nc because her new husband was swearing at my son and she blamed my son (who actually hates conflict!) I don’t need to fix this relationship or the relationship with any of my family who don’t see me as a worthwhile part of their lives. I have as the eldest always been the person everyone turns to, to sort out their shit…..and as much as I didn’t want to fracture that relationship I had to put me, and my childrens feelings first. BecUse that is what as a mum you do. My kids are my world and nothing will ever come between us xxx

Rhodora · 18/06/2022 23:12

I’m so sorry for everyone who grew up unloved.

I was 17 and I remember a little girl who was then aged 8 realising that her mother didn’t love her. The girl had walked to school herself as her mother had been in her words “asleep on the kitchen table”. It meant her mother had been taking drugs again. The girl lived with a kinship carer at the time (foster care within the wider family rather than a stranger) and her mother had some access rights. The girl asked if she could stay with the kinship carer forever that day and not go back to her mum as the the kinship carer gave her breakfast and dinner, help with her homework and clean clothes every day.

Dashel · 18/06/2022 23:12

I don’t remember the exact moment I realised, I just always knew.

My dad didn’t love either myself or my brother or my mum. But my mum loved my brother very much and he could do no wrong. There are so many examples I could give , so many nasty comments and being treated like a burden. I was also made to feel bad for being born and for being a girl. My mother gave up a job she loved to have me which was my fault. She was married unhappily to my dad because of me, anything bad was my fault.

There were so many weird things but mostly my earliest memories of it was the shouting and rants and whilst my dad was indifferent to us, when he was about, her shouting for hours didn’t happen often. When he took my brother to rugby (so he could socialise whilst my brother played), my mum would scream at me for hours whilst we cleaned the house. I hated being at home.

Lunarpsychobitch · 18/06/2022 23:16

When I had my own children and realised that I didn't want them to go through what I did with my mum so I stepped back.

LivingstonDaisies · 18/06/2022 23:24

When I called them after leaving a domestically abusive marriage when I was 23 and was told “you made your bed now you have to lie in it” 🙄. I went NC with them after that. We’d always had a difficult relationship since I was small and I was always deemed “the difficult child”.

27 years later I met my cousin in the street and was informed they’d both died, my mother died first and my dad had left strict instructions with my sisters and all other family members that I wasn’t to be informed of his death…

That’s the minds of alcoholics for you!

IknownothingIamfakingit · 18/06/2022 23:27

I don’t think I’ve ever felt genuine love from my “mother.”
I spent along time trying to make her love me but it was just pointless. Things that stick out are sending me ( not my dbs) to my grandparents house every weekend, school holiday, Xmas etc. Never picking me up from school. Never saying I love you or cuddling me etc. Letting my step dad beat me so hard I had to explain bruises to my teachers when I was 5.
When I was 13 a boy spiked my drink and raped me in a field. Don’t remember a lot but I know I tried to tell her when I got home and she thought I was drunk so she beat me. I tried to kill myself not long after and ended up in hospital, I heard her on the phone to my aunt saying “I can’t love her, i wish I’d never had her.” I was punished when we went home and the doctors weren’t around. She happily allowed and encouraged my stepdad to hit me and drag me out of bed by my feet.When I was a pregnant teen my “mothers” friend had to lock me in my brothers room and stand in front of the door to stop him beating me. It was my own fault for not loading the dishwasher properly in her eyes. I could go on and on.
As a adult I tried so so hard to make her love me. I hid her affairs, lied for her, cleaned her house, was a nervous wreck because she kept telling me she was going to kill her self. The dramas she would drag me in were maddening.
She just kept rejecting me, while my brother were just perfect in her eyes. It didn’t matter how many times bailiffs were at the door for them or police even. They could do no wrong, it was everyone else’s fault.
For around ten years I’ve been very low contact.
The straw that broke the camels back was my kids. She adored them at first, but then my brothers started having children and mine were pushed aside. She also hated that my kids love me ?!?
My youngest has autism and we were at her house and she complained to me that he doesn’t like her because he won’t look at her. Then he needed lunch but oh no he might get sausage roll crumbs on her fucking B&M rug 😡
I’ve never hated someone so much as I did her in that moment. We walked out the door and I’ve never looked back.

I’ve realised that she’s a dick. That I’ve got what I always wanted, wonderful relationships with my now adult dd’s. A little boy who I thank god for every day. A job I love, a lovely home and a fab dh. Grandparents that loved me dearly and I’m so happy in my little world. It’s ok that she doesn’t love me I don’t love her either now. I hope I never lay eyes on her again.

god sorry that’s a long ramble but it felt good letting a bit of it out.
I am so sorry to everyone else that has crappy parents 💐 some of these posts have brought tears to my eyes.

Eeksteek · 18/06/2022 23:29

Badger1970 · 18/06/2022 21:58

In the last 4/5 years. They're not bad people, they're both just essentially self absorbed. It was going NC with my sister that taught me my place in the family pecking order. Thankfully my DH and my DC/grandchildren are all that I will ever need in my life, and I keep a very healthy distance/boundary with both parent.

This. They both just seem to think they have their lives and I have mine, and have expected me to fend for myself since I was around 12. Nothing like some of the awful things here, and I’m truly lucky. They just drop in when they happen to be in the country for something else, and it is not how I would ever treat my child, no matter her age. I only have a relationship with them at all because I worry DD might grow up thinking it’s normal to be so detached and I’d be devastated if we had that kind of relationship as adults. I definitely don’t want any kind of besties-co-dependent gig, but I also don’t want to live in another county and only drop by annually when I’m seeing my financial advisor in my home country.

LessonsinGurning · 18/06/2022 23:29

When I was living away (left home at 17) and came back home for my 18th birthday. They didn't even buy me a card.

MidnightsFoodbowl · 18/06/2022 23:47

I'm thankful that I didn't experience anything like the level of abuse that some of you have, my mum just never put the effort in (also hit me a lot, but that was down to her upbringing, and the only way she knew how to parent).
I first noticed it when my dad died (I was 9, and he loved me unconditionally). I cried myself to sleep every night - she never comforted me, or mentioned it. I wasn't allowed at the funeral, or to ever talk about him (it may have been a misguided attempt to make me feel better, I never asked her).
She was never that interested in me - I always had to make the journey, make the effort, organise things: but she was nice to my kids, so I kept contact until she dies. Don't miss her though.

sessell · 18/06/2022 23:52

I could list all the signs. She never phoned when I left home. Visits maybe once every ten years, barely knows my children. Hid once when I tried to visit her. Let me give birth alone as a young single parent, did not pass on money relatives had given for the baby. Accidentally changed the date of my birthday for many years in childhood. Usually forgets it now. And yet I made excuses for all that and more. But recently I confronted her with her lack of interest and said I sometimes think you don't even like me, but you were a good mother when we were young I'm grateful for that. She said, no I wasn't I neglected you and let you do whatever you wanted and didn't care. Wow. It was actually true. She didn't ask for or want forgiveness. It was just a statement of truth. I appreciated the honesty. It is freeing. As a parent love is what you do, it is being there. My mother wasn't, she did not love me enough. Such a weak flicker of love as to be useless. It only became clear when she told me clearly, now in my mid 50s. Writing this was cathartic too.

TheWayoftheLeaf · 18/06/2022 23:57

Rodneytrotterslovechild · 15/06/2022 21:02

From the moment I have memories to be honest

she didn’t want a girl-and not one that took after her father

it came to a halt when my then partner beat me to a pulp

id managed to text her to ask for help-it took her 3 hours to drive 5 minutes to mine-she was on the phone to her sister at the time

anyway she walked in,I’m sat there blood everywhere,kids screaming,me with black eyes and a broken nose,him steaming drunk and kicking off,smashing up anything in his path

i kid you not,her exact words to him where ‘I know sweetheart,she’s a bitch who deserves everything she’s got tonight,but you have to calm down or she’ll have you arrested-you know what she’s like’

and then she got him into her car,ready to drive him home (that was 36 miles from mine) when he went for her-he missed but she had him arrested but failed to mention that he’d battered the hell out of me and I needed to go to a hospital-I was in the house trying to calm down my children and patch myself up

she refused to babysit for me so I could get medical help-she just laughed at me and walked out

thats when I knew that she could never love me-she’s incapable of love as a normal person

Jesús Christ.

Hillary17 · 19/06/2022 00:01

Whilst it’s taken years to understand the feelings and reasons, I think I was maybe 7 years old. She left me for 3 months to travel and have “an adventure.” Have never forgiven her and realised the day she came back that she didn’t really love me like a mother should, more out of obligation.

Andouillette · 19/06/2022 00:09

Shehasadiamondinthesky · 18/06/2022 22:34

Try reading People of the Lie it changed my life. I believe some people are inherently evil and you should have nothing to do with them.

Yes indeed, a brilliant book, better by far than his other work, a Road less Travelled. Reading People of the Lie was a revelation.
I pretty much always realised that at best my mother found me boring and tiresome, at worst she didn't love me and she certainly didn't like me. My father was a good man but very weak, by his own admission he let her get away with behaviour he knew was very wrong for the sake of peace, something he regretted for the rest of his life.
I was luckier than some, I had a wonderful nanny for he first 8 years of my life, two very supportive aunts and a lovely granny. I have also been lucky to find some older, very motherly friends who showed me how to be a decent parent to my DDs. Sadly those friends are nearly all dead now but their love and kindness stays with me as does Nanny's, she loved me all my life and I her.

Ticksallboxes · 19/06/2022 00:12

SunsetandCupcakes · 15/06/2022 19:49

When my child died. They said they couldn't cope with me anymore as I was too intense. I had been the family fixer for years.

I asked them to cancel a one night Premier inn the week after my child died but they said that was too much to ask. Two Years later the dog sitter was sick so the only option for dog was kennels so they cancelled a two week cruise as it wouldn't be fair on the dog

I'm so, so sorry - this really upset me Flowers

Kennykenkencat · 19/06/2022 00:44

When I overheard my mother and grandfather discussing writing a will and over hearing that I was to get nothing as I was too stupid to handle money (I was 7 years old). My grandfather left everything to my mother and my mother left everything to my cousins and 1/2 sister.
My father I haven’t seen since I was about 3 years old.

My mother would always talk about the importance of family and would drop everything to run around after her siblings and their children. Even if they didn’t need it.
She would make big plans to move areas or go on holiday and do things for me but it was all for show or how it would look
I would have to help her out cleaning her siblings houses as we wouldn’t be around to help out if we went on holiday or moved away.
(she didn’t think her siblings were capable and her siblings would let her get on with it as there was no telling her not to)
But we never really went on holiday or made any huge move that meant she didn’t live with a few miles of her family.
If I ever complained that I was looking forward to something that had been planned I was told I was spoilt.

Eventually asked her during an argument who she considered to be in her family and she named every family member apart from me. Told me she started with her father, mother, siblings and their spouses and my younger cousins and younger 1/2 sister because she had known them longer

Krabapple · 19/06/2022 04:27

I have always known - she has anyways adored my younger sister. I was always the black sheep and she always talks about how badly behaved I was. I want at all - I was a good kid, did well at school etc.
she threw me out at 18 and didn’t speak to me for nearly a year - I can’t imagine doing that to my own children.
I am low contact now. I do talk to her but do not go out of my way to see her. She doesn’t treat my children the same as my sisters which is not acceptable.
it still hurts though and has caused untold problems. I am in my 50,s and currently trying to organise counselling to help me come to terms with it.

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/06/2022 06:46

I am so sorry to everyone, who has suffered. Reading your stories has been very harrowing. Yet despite many having suffered far worse treatment, somehow many of you seem to have faired better than me. Perhaps it is because unlike me, you found love and connection with a sibling, grandparent or other significant person. For that I am glad as I don’t wish the pain I suffered on anyone and congratulate you on your resilience and self love. If I could do it again, I would hope to find the self love required to find the surrogate mothers some of you found and take the opportunity of friendships offered. And to those still in a dark place, I hope you find the strength to know how fantastic and loveable you really are. Flowers

I didn’t know the concept of unconditional love until I became an adult. My mother loves me, in a very limited way. But it isn’t the real me as she doesn’t see me as a person in my own right. She has always projected all of her negative feelings about herself onto me. I never felt grounded or secure, always ashamed of myself. I remember getting momentarily lost when I was about 2 and she laughed at my panic rather than comforting me. My whole childhood was a mixture of confusion and panic.

I remember pangs of jealousy from about 5 when I saw how other mums treated their girls, the shame that I wore a hand me down t-shirt I loathed the day of the group school photo when money was not an issue, when other mums had bought the non compulsory school uniform they’d outgrow in a flash just so they looked smart. The shame and hate I felt that day turned to self-loathing as I always blamed myself for such things and I still struggle to look at myself then even though I know I was tiny and had no control over my life. I knew there was something really wrong when I saw how my friend’s mum was so loving. When I was about 7/8 sat in the sofa with me and her dd giving us both a hug. This was such an alien concept and I wanted to stay there forever. After I had my dd, I became incredibly angry when she reached about 5 months. This, I pin point to when the maternal love stopped, because this is when I became a real life child rather than the living, malleable doll she wanted.

I tried so hard to please her, spending my pocket money on gifts for her at a very very young age and was so good. Even now in my 50s I have to stop myself from thinking my mum would like x when I see it. She maintains I was such a happy child, which went wrong in my teens and will not acknowledge the truth that I covered my pain and tried to be lovable with smiles. She allowed my brother to destroy every last shred of dignity I felt for myself with the vile names he called me to the frequent violence and misogynistic displays of ‘manhood’ used to degrade me into a non human. The latter of which I call sexualised abuse as there was no touch involved.

My father was a workaholic and selfish man. I adored him although I hardly saw him. I actually idolised both of them but I expect she was very jealous of my feelings toward him as she did everything for us. He didn’t know who I was either or my childhood dream to follow in his footsteps. He was too busy expecting my brother to do this despite neither having the skills nor inclination.

In the event, neither happened as my father died when I was an adolescent and she never once comforted me. She said some things after his death to try to damage that relationship, which made me feel the worst person in the world. Something really minor and typical teen behaviour. I thought it so terrible at the time that I pretended to myself I hadn’t done it but she used it as a stick to beat me with for years and years until in my 40s I finally learnt to shut her down. This is the thing I find the most hard to stomach.

Despite all this, we do love one another. It’s so very complicated and we are both so very angry with one another. I know she thinks I’m an ungrateful child for all the things she did for me. I get it wasn’t easy with my father, who put so much on her and did nothing to help.