How have the court of appeal allowed the Rwanda thing to go ahead?

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This seems extremely costly, very bad for the climate change challenge in terms of flights and staggeringly lacking in humanity.

How have the court of appeal allowed these flights to go ahead?

I guess if we rewind from the the real question is how and why on earth are our government pushing this awful idea?

The same way as all the other travellers to the Uk do.

Yes, 0.25% of total population.

It keeps on growing though

75% of initial decisions made in the year to March 2022 resulted in a grant asylum or humanitarian protection.

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/top-10-facts-about-refugees-and-people-seeking-asylum/

@THisbackwithavengeance

It’s not “absolute tosh”, it’s from the government’s own statistics.

“Three quarters (75%) of the initial decisions in the year ending March 2022 were grants (of asylum, humanitarian protection or alternative forms of leave), which is a substantially higher grant rate than previous years. For much of the past decade, around a third of initial decisions were grants. The grant rate in the year ending March 2022 is the highest grant rate in over thirty years (since 82% in 1990).”

Source:
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/immigration-statistics-year-ending-march-2022/how-many-people-do-we-grant-asylum-or-protection-to

If you’re talking about people being trafficked here and not picked up by the authorities, that’s not something to blame asylum seekers for - trafficking is against your will. The argument that the Rwanda plan will reduce trafficking is nonsense. It will increase trafficking/smuggling on the Rwandan borders, through Libya and back into the Mediterranean.

European Court of Human Rights have just stopped the flight and have had the refugees removed.

Sorry... removed from the plane.

Fantastic news. The flight is off, nobody is going to Rwanda tonight.

This just goes to show how excellently brexit has allowed us to take back control of our borders.

I haven't read the full thread, have not got the stomach for it. But in case it has not been posted, here is one reason why we should not send a single refugee to Rwanda:

www.dw.com/en/rwanda-police-shot-dead-11-refugees-in-food-riot/a-42751170

Surprising statistic of the day.

“Our research suggests that around 5.5 million British nationals live over- seas permanently (equivalent to 9.2 per cent of the UK’s population). In addition, an estimated 500,000 British people live abroad for part of the year, mainly through second-home ownership. This means that nearly one in ten British nationals lives part or all of the year abroad. It also means that there are more Britons living abroad than there are foreigners living in the UK.”

https://www.ippr.org/files/images/media/files/publication/2011/05/BA_exec_summ_1548.pdf

Well, since the courts found it perfectly acceptable to house rapists in women's prisons just cos they 'identified ' as women, why would they not go along with this morally abhorrent scheme too...?

That has nothing at all to do with asylum seekers and everything to do with the current Conservative government who have had twelve years to unfuck the country and decided that the best way to achieve this would be to fuck it even more.

People voted for cuts. This is what cuts look like. People voted for Brexit despite warnings that it would fuck services, fuck the economy, and fuck everyone who isn't a multimillion. This is what Brexit looks like.

Asylum seekers didn't vote Conservative because they can't vote. They didn't vote for Brexit either.

And the award for best "shoehorn something about trans people into a debate that has nothing to do with transpeople" comment goes to...

Essentially the people hand-wringing about illegal migrants are middle class people who are able to throw money at any issues in their lives and are far detached from the areas where such migrants are sent in the UK.

@Flapjacker48 not illegal immigrants they're asylum seekers and to think it's purely middle class people who believe this is wrong is frankly ludicrous.

Evidence base for this, or are you just making things up?

It is well known that the current Tory government are great fans of Putin and his Russia. A Russia where very many people live in abject poverty, but a few spend more than millions earn on yachts they don't go on, by stealing money from the government.

If this is true then why am I living in a rented house that’s slowly falling apart?

Give me my giant middle class house!!

Alternatively, empathy/not wanting your government to be massive shits isn’t class or money related.

If only all these poor, refugee hating brits could focus their anger on those who've driven them into poverty. Who's hoarding the wealth of the nation and keeping you in poverty? What do we need to do to ensure a fairer distribution? QUICK, LOOK! A BOAT FULL OF DESPERATE PEOPLE COMING TO STEAL THE CRUMBS WE'VE GIVEN YOU.

That has nothing at all to do with asylum seekers and everything to do with the current Conservative government who have had twelve years to unfuck the country and decided that the best way to achieve this would be to fuck it even more.

People voted for cuts. This is what cuts look like. People voted for Brexit despite warnings that it would fuck services, fuck the economy, and fuck everyone who isn't a multimillion. This is what Brexit looks like.

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This, again and again. The only people responsible for the fact you can't get a GP appointment, can't get a school place, can't get swimming lessons at your council pool, don't get paid enough, can't afford your insane rent level, can't get help with social housing or social care, can't get an ambulance for hours, can't get seen in A&E in less than 12 hours is the fucking circus in Westminster. This is not a migrant or refugee problem. Anyone saying it is just doing the circus' PR for them. This Rwanda policy, the government's flagship policy no less, is nothing more than a distraction from the fact the government is actually doing no governing at all but rather spending every moment of every day trying - utterly incomprehensibly - to prop up a narcissistic immoral dead man walking.

@BringBackCoffeeCreams Exactly.

Delighted to hear that the flight will not be leaving. Nobody left on it!

She-devil Priti Patel is "very surprised" at the intervention of the ECHR, which reminded me of He-devil Boris Johnson being "very surprised" to get a Partygate Fixed Penalty Notice. It is a shame for both of them, isn't it?