Are you taking part in the fuel protests 4th July

[ivykaty44]

There is much on social media about planned fuel protests on Monday July 4th

blocking motorways, blocking roads and fuel stations
Links to many articles

AIBU you’ll not protest
yANBU you’ll protest

But we are struggling with the cost of fuel more than any other country (apart from France) due to the fact we are taxed twice.

But then if you give in once, then what about the next time or the time after, ? What if it's political aspects that's on a whim but then think we blocked motorways let's do similar etc

If prices do go down just to cuts in tax etc then we’ll get the opposite from XR as driving will go up

Hard as both sides are now using blockades which can really make like difficult for people in a way protests in the usual way don’t as much

That's all we need - a bunch of shithead anarchists fucking the country up even more than it is already.

They need to bring in the army and some water cannons. If any of them glue themselves to the carriageway, then a few pneumatic drills should sort that out.

Bastards.

I strongly believe that people have the right to protest, but not like this.

Yarboosucks. do show me where Im promoting fuel prise rises protests?

Ive asked a question in this section of the board, thats not unreasonable - its what this section is for.

But then if you give in once, then what about the next time or the time after, ? What if it's political aspects that's on a whim but then think we blocked motorways let's do similar etc

Indeed, the government shouldn't be running the country in such a way and not keep swapping to meet popular demands.

No. Because I'll be on holiday but even if I wasn't, I'd be at work. I wonder who these protesters will be.

The protesters will be the usual mix. A handful of genuine protesters, and a huge bunch of hijackers who jump on any bandwagon because they enjoy causing trouble and are just in it for the anarchy.

But the morons always think things only happen in the UK! They trot out phrases like 'Broken Britain' 'Rip off Britain' etc etc, they really do need to look at other parts of the world too.

Wasn't the then Mayor of London told he couldn't use water cannon y the then PM? BJ and TM?

In 2011 the cost per barrel was approx the same as now but it's much more expensive at the pumps. I don't know why we're paying so much more now than then

No. I’m going to be working and I’m a bit worried about being able to see my patients.

People Have the right to protest. End of really. I am sure that protesting cannot be classed as Terrorism.

i appeal anyone who stands up for what they believe in. It takes a lot of strength. It’s much easier to sit on mums net moaning. That’s not going to change anything 😀

I can see reading the comments that people feel strongly against this action, and everyone is perfectly entitled to their own opinion and feelings. But there has never been any change without someone with a back bone fighting for it.

good luck with your journeys on the 4th of July. For those of you opposing any action, I suggest you send a lovely email asking nicely for some tax cuts. Good luck hahaha

I’m sure you manager can plan around it the same as we will ;)

I'll willingly protest against the rising fuel costs, anything to make the government reduce tax on fuel.

It is a worldwide problem BUT the government are clearly not doing enough to deal with the cost of living crisis.

This country is heading in the wrong direction with an ineffective government. I'm not going to shrug my shoulders because there are other countries with the same issue.

If there's a blockade, and cars sitting in front of the blockade hoping to pass - please tell me how that doesn't affect emergency vehicles?
Or those transporting someone in their own car in an emergency because they can't access emergency services?

@ivykaty44 You are promoting by publicising the planned demonstrations, providing a link to when and where the demos will be and then more overtly in your post at 08:13 today. You are subtle but the intention is clear.

Absolutely. The added cost of haulage affects the price of everything, so it's in everyone's interests for the cost of fuel to come down.

I think the govt should introduce a temporary cut in VAT on fuel to 10%. At the moment, 40% of the cost of fuel is fuel duty and VAT, even after the 5p fuel duty cut. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the increased income from VAT arising from higher prices has more than offset the lost revenue from the fuel duty cut. (I also didn't realise that VAT is payable on the fuel duty part of the pump price, so there's double taxation at work.)

A lot of people have no choice but to drive. I'm an essential car user and am contractually required to use my car for work. Not everyone lives in an urban area with decent public transport (my first bus is at 8.30 am and the last one is at 5.40pm) and useful shops. Shift workers, including NHS and emergency services, have to get to/from work at times when public transport isn't available.

These protests will just piss people off though. And I wonder how many of those joining them will be people who moaned about XR/Insulate Britain blocking roads?

Needs must. Better than guns, which is what they'd be met with in most other parts of the world.

@Yarboosucks

Ive tried to stay neutral - but I disagree with this, not protests - but not over car fuel that pollutes & kills early

Im on the cycling threads...sorry you got that completely wrong

Yes, and let's hope that none of your nearest and dearest are going for a job interview, or catching a flight, or die because an ambulance can't get them to hospital in time.

We are lucky in this country that we have the right to protest. But let's do it peacefully without antagonising the very people (ie the general public) whose support the protesters need in order for their campaign to be a success.

If the rolling road blocks were happening along the roads where Tory MPs live, I'd be far more inclined to get involved. Imo it's better to inconvenience those who make the decisions about taxation, public transport funding etc than ordinary people trying to get to work, medical appts etc.

I'm willing to consider protests as part of democracy,
If they took place in open fields, or areas where they will not endanger lives, for example by blocking motorways etc.

But if I was part of the security services, and intelligence was groups planning to put human lives at risk, then if it was my responsibility, if be doing my best to shut down the protesters.