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Are you taking part in the fuel protests 4th July

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ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 08:09

There is much on social media about planned fuel protests on Monday July 4th

blocking motorways, blocking roads and fuel stations
Links to many articles

AIBU you’ll not protest
yANBU you’ll protest

OP posts:
IncessantNameChanger · 14/06/2022 19:17

After hearing how insulate Brition stopped people getting to hospital, I'm not for that personally.

I gues we dont throw our toys out the pram enough in the UK. If it was well published and just one area that emergency life saving services could avoid I'd have more sympathy. Like a rolling blockage of the M25 as that normally is like a rolling blockade on most days anyway. At least people could get off / avoid it

Mumsybud · 18/06/2022 01:19

Yes I will 100 percent support. There is plenty of notice to avoid motorways on the 4th july. The blockade will also be rolling so not totally obstructive. Emergency vehicles will not be stopped from passing. All I can say is that money must not be an issue for those of you feels the cost of fuel is not a problem worth fighting. I guess there’s a few boris loving Tory voters here too? Develop some back bone and stand up for what’s right. Someone mentioned it’s a world wide problem. Maybe so, but other governments have taken action. They rely upon the majority feeling the protesting is a selfish act. Because civil unrest is their worst fear.

steff13 · 18/06/2022 01:21

I'm going to a barbecue, a fireworks show, and participating in my annual viewing of Independence Day.

Mumsybud · 18/06/2022 01:28

and don’t forget that this current set of imbeciles running the country are trying to implement a bill to ban protesting. now I know I am going off on a whim here and digressing, but look at the amount of change for good has come about through protest. From Womens rights in the early days through to Black Lives Matter and every thing in between. None of this would have been possible without some strong willed people who’s will to success was so powerful. So if ‘selfish’ people would like to superglue themselves to the road then so be it. They are standing up for what they believe to be right which is admirable. It would be appalling if the bill that has been put together is implemented. So yes, there would be less disruption in life. But the government would take away our power and that leaves us scarily vulnerable.

so yes. I will be taking part as I feel strongly about this. I am an NHS nurse who’s work expenses barley cover my working millage. I would like our point to be taken seriously while it’s still legal !

Mumsybud · 18/06/2022 01:33

Oh and one last thing. My dad was a striking miner who saw the miners strike through from start to finish. I’m proud of our working class routes and my dads steadfast untouchable will to fight for what he felt was right, despite enduring great hardship. I hope the whole bloody county comes to a standstill and he people taking part do not falter. Just the 1st of many messages which is nothing else will make the PMs ears prick up

mmmmmmghturep · 18/06/2022 01:34

@MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife Yep thats already been proven when protesters were removed for trying to block Trooping The Colour over Platinum Jubilee weekend.

Bluueberrryy · 18/06/2022 01:35

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 14/06/2022 08:23

If you are, did you also join Insulate Britain or Extinction Rebellion in their protests ?

I’m not joining, as I have got out of fossil fuels altogether. It has to get expensive to wean everyone off and cause the system wide change required to decarbonise.

You're posting on the internet

Hawkins001 · 18/06/2022 01:37

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 08:09

There is much on social media about planned fuel protests on Monday July 4th

blocking motorways, blocking roads and fuel stations
Links to many articles

AIBU you’ll not protest
yANBU you’ll protest

Would it be possible to use terrorism laws to arrest protesters, especially if them blocking e.g. Motorways results in deaths and other hazards ?

BritWifeInUSA · 18/06/2022 02:20

Nope. I’ll be enjoying the fireworks and the long weekend.

LemonSwan · 18/06/2022 02:29

No, I don’t care if your XR, insulate bunch or some kind of U.K. version of the yellow vests. Block fuel and your a complete tosser to me.

ivykaty44 · 18/06/2022 07:20

All I can say is that money must not be an issue for those of you feels the cost of fuel is not a problem worth fighting.

i think food banks, low wages, utility rises if 54% are far more important and could be protested about before fuel

fuel has increased in price from £1:33 in 2011 to £2.00 in 2022. It’s just that it rose from average if £1.33 tin 2011 to £1.49 in 2021 and the rest in the last 6 months. In 2000 fuel was reaching a £1 a liter so in 20 years it’s doubled in price, hardly unexpected 🤷‍♀️

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HappypusSadpus · 18/06/2022 07:23

thebellagio · 14/06/2022 08:13

Anyone who blocks a fuel station is an utter arsehole.

two months ago my daughter was blue lighted to Addenbrookes. My husband had to follow in the car. It took him 6 attempts to find a petrol station with fuel which meant it took him an extra 30 mins to get to the hospital. It could have been the difference between life or death.

The stations were empty because of twats blocking the refineries. The paramedics told me they were also having issues filling the ambulances because of it.

so no. I won’t be protesting or supporting it.

Erm. No your husband not having petrol wouldn't have been the difference between life and death for your daughter. Given she was in a different vehicle?

Or was he refilling his green can for the ambulance?

HappypusSadpus · 18/06/2022 07:25

NotKevinTurvey · 14/06/2022 13:15

The consensus view would seem to that it was the suffragists who made the real difference, along with the social changes that were happening because of the war, and that the violence didn’t advance their cause.

I missed the birth of my child because of the XR protests, leaving my wife to give birth alone. I don’t believe that they should have had the right to do that to me.

Did you just mansplain the suffragist movement's impact? 🤣

Fucking really?!

motogirl · 18/06/2022 07:49

No because it's pointless, the issues are worldwide so what is blocking motorways going to do.

ivykaty44 · 18/06/2022 08:13

what is blocking motorways going to do.

I would say, blocking motorways and creating gridlock would, if that’s what is achieved, would send a message to the government.

the hope then is that the government listen to the message, and act otherwise those protesting won’t be voting for them come the next election

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Biker47 · 18/06/2022 08:21

No I'm not a fucking idiot, that's why.

There was a "protest" in my area yesterday, which involved driving slowish down an A road for 100 miles then back again. All it did was inconvenience people who were probably of the same status and in exactly the same situation as the people participating in the "protest", I doubt Boris Johnson was held up given he is in Ukraine, nor do I think any MP was held up as they're probably at home or in London, and at the end of the day all the cars participating had to fill up their cars and reward the government with a nice contribution of VAT and Fuel duty.

I'm sure even if the government was interested it would encourage these idiots to do their "protest" every week, hell, every day.

AyeUpMeDuck · 18/06/2022 09:20

ivykaty44 · 18/06/2022 08:13

what is blocking motorways going to do.

I would say, blocking motorways and creating gridlock would, if that’s what is achieved, would send a message to the government.

the hope then is that the government listen to the message, and act otherwise those protesting won’t be voting for them come the next election

The people in government won't give a toss.
It'll accomplish annoyance to regular people, hatred toward the protesters and tightening of protest laws.

Eventually someone will get hurt doing these protests. You can only piss people off so much before they snap and someone will get a good kicking or run over.

Inconvenience oil companies, government ministers, the lords etc. Not people who are just trying to get to work.

ivykaty44 · 18/06/2022 09:37

The people in government won't give a toss.

Im not sure - they already took 5p of the tax. This government rule by popular opinion on some stuff and seem to change their minds regularly on stuff, when pushed.

second jobs, covid votes, NHS visa charge, free school meals

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LampLighter414 · 18/06/2022 09:37

I will be participating by blocking a major road in our estate. The government must do something about fuel prices!

MrsSkylerWhite · 18/06/2022 09:40

The point of that is what, exactly? Who are they protesting against?
it’s a worldwide problem. Disrupting the journeys of people trying to make a living in difficult times isn’t going to help anyone.

Pluvia · 18/06/2022 09:49

No, and anyone who does is a ruddy nuisance. This is a global crisis brought on largely by Russia invading Ukraine. Holding up people trying to get to work the M25 is just an excuse for anti-social behaviour. As if people don't have enough to cope with, with fuel bills and train strikes. A curse on all those involved!

CapMarvel · 18/06/2022 09:51

ivykaty44 · 18/06/2022 08:13

what is blocking motorways going to do.

I would say, blocking motorways and creating gridlock would, if that’s what is achieved, would send a message to the government.

the hope then is that the government listen to the message, and act otherwise those protesting won’t be voting for them come the next election

Good luck with that.

RewildingAmbridge · 18/06/2022 09:53

No, I'll be trying to get to my job to make sure the public are safe. No one protests at the fact in my industry we've had only a 1% pay increase in more than ten years, increases hit people like us the hardest and yet again we'll be the ones struggling into work come hell or high water. Glad the date is publicised though so I can make sure I fill up before hand.

Pluvia · 18/06/2022 09:53

Bluueberrryy · 18/06/2022 01:35

You're posting on the internet

Using solar PV and batteries, or green electricity produced by hydro or wind turbines. Which in 20 years time will be pretty standard.

Yarboosucks · 18/06/2022 09:57

The protests that the OP is promoting and publicising are exactly what Putin wants. His actions have created this crisis and he will revel in protests against National Governments, especially those who are supporting Ukrainian.

OP is beyond unreasonable

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