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Are you taking part in the fuel protests 4th July

179 replies

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 08:09

There is much on social media about planned fuel protests on Monday July 4th

blocking motorways, blocking roads and fuel stations
Links to many articles

AIBU you’ll not protest
yANBU you’ll protest

OP posts:
MarshaBradyo · 14/06/2022 13:06

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 12:50

I don't drive, I don't own a car, I go pretty much everywhere by public transport or on foot. I have no personal investment in the cost of fuel or the roads being blocked.

whilst public transport rose high in cost, no one protested as they enjoyed frozen fuel tax - so you’ve paid the price for. It driving and sucked it up…

I’m not sure what you mean here

Do you mean fuel tax should be higher? And prices higher than now

MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife · 14/06/2022 13:08

NotKevinTurvey · 14/06/2022 13:03

There’s a difference between having the right to protest and stopping people going about their normal lives. No-one should be allowed to disrupt traffic, or block streets.

I'm fairly sure the suffragettes only succeeded because they did things that incovenienced themselves and other people (like throwing themselves in front of horses) rather than hiding away in a corner somewhere and hoping a few passers by noticed their banners.

Laiste · 14/06/2022 13:11

No i wont be.

I think the mood of people at the moment - anyone trying to block entrance to a petrol station is likely to get a punch on the trumpet! Or damage to what every they're using to block it with.

NotKevinTurvey · 14/06/2022 13:15

MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife · 14/06/2022 13:08

I'm fairly sure the suffragettes only succeeded because they did things that incovenienced themselves and other people (like throwing themselves in front of horses) rather than hiding away in a corner somewhere and hoping a few passers by noticed their banners.

The consensus view would seem to that it was the suffragists who made the real difference, along with the social changes that were happening because of the war, and that the violence didn’t advance their cause.

I missed the birth of my child because of the XR protests, leaving my wife to give birth alone. I don’t believe that they should have had the right to do that to me.

pigsDOfly · 14/06/2022 13:16

No, it's bloody stupid and highly irresponsible to stop people getting to where they need to be.

What earthly purpose or difference do these idiots think they will achieve with their silly tactics.

The only thing it will achieve is causing massive problems for everyone. It will make absolutely no difference to anything else.

There's a war happening in Europe and there are a global economic problems.

If they sincerely feel the need to protest maybe they should get themselves to Russia somehow and protest there.

MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife · 14/06/2022 13:26

Well I'm sure the powers that be have a vested interest in playing down the role of violence in any kind of social change, so I'd take that with a pinch of salt. It also seems unlikely that the willingness of some women to risk their own lives and liberty in order to raise attention for their cause would not have had some impact on causing that social change. As with most things though, this was down to a multitude of different factors.

I'm sorry that some of the protests caused you to miss something so obviously important and like I said, I'm not sure I agree with the XR methods or targets, but I also think that we have to do something somehow or in the end it will be our children and their children that suffer because of our inaction and that of those who came before us.

Everyone seems to want change but it appears no-one is prepared to give even the smallest things up to achieve it (being clear though that your story was not a small thing)

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 13:31

Do you mean fuel tax should be higher? And prices higher than now

i mean if fuel tax was frozen for drivers then public transport fares should have been frozen for passengers

instead those using public transport have paid more and more over the last ten years

OP posts:
Thelnebriati · 14/06/2022 13:45

I'm disabled and rely on public transport, I have regular medical appointments for treatment and have a couple of serious, non regular ones coming up.

If you really want to make a difference, then look at the 'go slow' industrial action technique which affects the people you are annoyed at, and not the rest of us.

NellesVilla · 14/06/2022 13:58

Thank fuck I have a day off on the 4/7. Selfish twats; what if THEIR relatives need to be rushed to hospital???

Laiste · 14/06/2022 16:05

@I'MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife - ''im sorry that some of the protests caused you to miss something so obviously important and like I said, I'm not sure I agree with the XR methods or targets, but I also think that we have to do something somehow or in the end it will be our children and their children that suffer because of our inaction and that of those who came before us''

If the OP was ''AIBU to ask if any of you would do something somehow in protest about the petrol prices'' it would be a different thread.

But it's not. It's a thread asking who would be willing to block roads and access to petrol pumps.

As for people suffering - you think it's ok to cause direct and definite suffering now in the hope that doing it might prevent suffering later? Where's the logic in this?

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 16:31

@Laiste

the protests are about the price of petrol, the links on my op show what the protests are about

I just take from this that the people replying don't agree with protests and or are not concerned with the price of petrol, if they were concerned they'd be suggesting protest of some other type if they didn't agree with those planned

OP posts:
Laiste · 14/06/2022 16:36

ivykaty44 · Today 16:31

@@Laiste the protests are about the price of petrol, the links on my op show what the protests are about

Yes i know. My point is that I'MongoOnlyPawnInGameOfLife is saying we have to do something ....

I said if you (OP) had posted about doing ''something'' the answers would have been different. We're not discussing doing ''something'' we're discussing specifically blocking the road.

Laiste · 14/06/2022 16:38

It would have been interesting if your OP has asked if there were any ideas for action that people would join in with.

But it's too late now 'cos most folks seem to mainly only read the OP sadly :)

FilterWash · 14/06/2022 17:13

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 12:50

I don't drive, I don't own a car, I go pretty much everywhere by public transport or on foot. I have no personal investment in the cost of fuel or the roads being blocked.

whilst public transport rose high in cost, no one protested as they enjoyed frozen fuel tax - so you’ve paid the price for. It driving and sucked it up…

What?

Maireas · 14/06/2022 17:20

kittensinthekitchen · 14/06/2022 09:40

No I won't be.

And now I'm fully expecting a rush on fuel and fuel shortages on the days leading up to the 4th of July, so fucking thanks for that, protesters 🙄

Exactly this.
So, so infuriating

AyeUpMeDuck · 14/06/2022 17:24

Why would anyone think it'd help to cause an inconvenience to people that have no power to change anything?

All any protest like this does is annoy people just trying to live their life. I'm a parent with a kid I have to get to school, why would I support any group or protest that hinders that? I wouldn't. I'd think they were fuckwits.

Witchyface · 14/06/2022 17:29

Maireas · 14/06/2022 17:20

Exactly this.
So, so infuriating

Everybody will be brimming their tank everytime they leave the house. It may well get to the stage of a month or so of very limited fuel supply.

RaininSummer · 14/06/2022 17:37

No. It will just make normal people's lives more difficult if they can't get where they need to go.

Aishah231 · 14/06/2022 18:05

Unfortunately politicians only listen when they have to. To those of you who sound angry at the thought of protests what's your solution other than put up and shut up?!

Talia99 · 14/06/2022 18:07

FilterWash · 14/06/2022 12:00

I don't drive, I don't own a car, I go pretty much everywhere by public transport or on foot. I have no personal investment in the cost of fuel or the roads being blocked.

I still think these protests are bloody awful. People die as a result. No one gives a shit, nothing is going to change, and all you're doing is making life miserable and possibly life-threatening for thousands of people.

I was talking to a lorry driver who says the cost of a tank of fuel for his lorry now exceeds £750. There is no way that isn’t part of the rise in the cost of food so unless you also eat nothing you don’t grow yourself, you are affected - it’s just hidden.

Even if you only buy from local farmers markets, the farmer almost definitely uses fuel.

ivykaty44 · 14/06/2022 18:08

It would have been interesting if your OP has asked if there were any ideas for action that people would join in with.

Im not interested in protesting over fuel price rises, thus my question wasn't about ideas for protest that people would join in with

please do by all means start a thread about any ideas for action thats people would join in with - if you want 😊

OP posts:
247SylviaPlath · 14/06/2022 18:09

thebellagio · 14/06/2022 08:13

Anyone who blocks a fuel station is an utter arsehole.

two months ago my daughter was blue lighted to Addenbrookes. My husband had to follow in the car. It took him 6 attempts to find a petrol station with fuel which meant it took him an extra 30 mins to get to the hospital. It could have been the difference between life or death.

The stations were empty because of twats blocking the refineries. The paramedics told me they were also having issues filling the ambulances because of it.

so no. I won’t be protesting or supporting it.

This. It’s not ok.

TanquerayTickles · 14/06/2022 18:57

No, because I'm not an arrogant, privileged, cunty bag of bin juice in human form.

Protest Westminster, don't stop other people earning money/seeing sick loved ones/getting to hospital. Fucking stupid Fuckers.

NotKevinTurvey · 14/06/2022 19:10

Aishah231 · 14/06/2022 18:05

Unfortunately politicians only listen when they have to. To those of you who sound angry at the thought of protests what's your solution other than put up and shut up?!

We have a climate crisis. The high price of petrol serves a purpose in reducing usage. Nothing needs to be done about it. Nothing should be done about it.

bellamountain · 14/06/2022 19:14

Surely a fuel protest should be for as many people as possible NOT to use the petrol station that day. Could you imagine the lost revenue in one days takings up and down the country? Selfish twats blockading fuel services are just as bad as the twats who glue themselves to the road, absolutely no thought for anyone else.