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to be annoyed by these 'learning by experiences parents'

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grumpydotcom · 10/06/2022 21:07

Name changed for safety.

Feeling thoroughly pissed off with the 'perfect' parents I've crossed paths with today .

First encounter. I'm cycling to work this morning and need to get a move on. Come to the cattle grid type thing on the cycle path and child on bike is blocking the crossing. Parent has already crossed and is patiently encouraging the child to follow. Child is having non of it .Parent is aware of queue behind but Freddie's 'learning experience' and need for Freddie to make the crossing on his own in his own time (for as long as that may take ) is more important , at the expense of others , no sense of urgency or consideration for queue behind which is building up.

Second encounter lunch time in Greggs queuing for a sandwich . Queue is massive and does not seem to be going down. Reason - parent with small child at the front and child wants to pay . Parent patiently explaining to child about contactless and how that works, and then child drops the card and everyone waits while child is encouraged by parent to find and pick up the card (under the counter ). Parent laughs ' never mind Freddie you try it again ,you can do it' and turns and smiles at the queuers as if we should all be impressed. Staff at Greggs look around awkwardly .

FFS pick up the child and the bike and remove them from the cycle path so others can pass!!!!!

Take the card off the child and pay for the sandwich without delay and get out of the way!!!!!

Thank you

OP posts:
5128gap · 11/06/2022 20:03

Peach777 · 11/06/2022 16:19

I haven’t read the whole thread, but OP, what’s wrong with using your words and saying ‘excuse me, I’m in a rush, can I get past?’ And with leaving yourself ample time to shop/eat etc.

and on treating children like adults - would you get annoyed to the same extent if it was an adult with a learning difficulty or other impairment slowing you down? Why shouldn’t children be treated like human beings with as much right to be in the world as you?

maybe there’s things to learn from these experiences. Are you living life at such a breakneck speed that you can’t afford any time to interact with people? Is that really healthy for you? Are you going to be able to go at the same speed throughout your life? Probably not, as you age. Will you hope for any kindnesses to be extended to you if you happen to develop arthritis and drop your debit card in the supermarket?

Your anger is telling you things, and tbh I’m not so sure it’s telling you that other people are stupid or wrong.

Ever heard of the 20 minute lunch break?

grumpydotcom · 11/06/2022 20:26

@5foot5 This is shocking, cant believe the nerve of some people

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RammyEwie · 11/06/2022 20:46

5foot5 · 11/06/2022 19:13

Not quite the same situation, but I saw another example of the "Oh my family are so adorable I am sure you won't mind all waiting for them" mindset.

Anyone who has been to Dovedale on a sunny weekend day will know how busy the stepping stones are and how frustrating it can be queuing to get across. There is really only room for one person on each stone so the traffic is one way, which means that when loads of people start crossing in one direction a queue builds up from the other side, until they get a chance to go and so on. Anyway you can wait a long time to cross and then of course you are limited to the speed of the person ahead of you as there is no room to pass.

Now I am not so much of a grumpy so-and-so that I mind children taking their time and being a little hesitant and nervous. Nor do I really mind much about the dogs that utterly freak out and have to be coaxed - although I have a silent internal dialogue along the lines of "Why don't you just pick it up and carry it across".

No what really exasperated me was the Mum who, having crossed herself then called to her family who were still on the stones to stop and wait there while she got a photo of them. So she waited until the people in front of her children had crossed and then had them all posing for the photo. And then, oh no, that one wasn't very good so she must just try one more time.

I wonder when she looked at the photo later whether she noticed the expressions on the faces of all the people waiting behind her family who were all at a stand still waiting for her to get her picture. Or the queue still waiting to cross.

🙈 You've just reminded me of DS having a meltdown on there. He was being chivvied along the bigger gap where there's a bit of a jump, his cap fell in in the river and although it was fished out in seconds, he had to be dragged off the stones and we were treated to a very dramatic 30 minutes of wailing and ranting along the valley.
I'd blocked that memory for a few years, and the pressure of queues brewing on both sides did not help 😂
We favour the bridge by the car park!

Time and place matters. Children do need to have experiences to learn, but yes awareness of how busy the surroundings are doesn't go amisd. I'm trying to train my juniors age DCs on life skills, but I will use the N word (no) if it's an impractical moment.

I recently ended up doing a polite "excuse me" to a toddler and their spatially-impaired parent who decided that the narrow school gateway was the spot for stopping and faffing in bags. Children tend to be better at shifting than their parents. Toddlers I can understand, it's the parents that should know better. Someone else called it "centre-of-the-universe-itis" the other day which sums it up well. Just engage with what's going on around you, that's all and don't walk across the entire pavement in formation or extend your dog lead all over it

uis · 11/06/2022 20:53

YANBU - all the parent has taught them is to have a lack of self-awareness or consideration of others around them. If that was a Greggs in Newcastle town centre I imagine parent and kids would have been lamped.

Maverickess · 11/06/2022 22:33

I find people who are self-absorbed and do not think of others tend to be impatient with others as well.

My experience too, the person behind someone in the queue huffing and puffing, tutting and tapping impatiently usually then take far longer faffing about and not in the slightest bit bothered about who they're holding up behind them when it's their turn.
People like that have no consideration for anyone but themselves, they're not unreasonable holding others up but if they don't get what they want immediately then everyone else is unreasonable holding them up. It's the definition of selfish and I've noticed it more and more in the last few years.

5foot5 · 11/06/2022 23:03

I'd blocked that memory for a few years, and the pressure of queues brewing on both sides did not help 😂
We favour the bridge by the car park!

@RammyEwie Yes we now usually use that bridge and go along the other side. Or better still we park at the other end where it isn't as crowded

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 11/06/2022 23:05

grumpydotcom · 10/06/2022 21:07

Name changed for safety.

Feeling thoroughly pissed off with the 'perfect' parents I've crossed paths with today .

First encounter. I'm cycling to work this morning and need to get a move on. Come to the cattle grid type thing on the cycle path and child on bike is blocking the crossing. Parent has already crossed and is patiently encouraging the child to follow. Child is having non of it .Parent is aware of queue behind but Freddie's 'learning experience' and need for Freddie to make the crossing on his own in his own time (for as long as that may take ) is more important , at the expense of others , no sense of urgency or consideration for queue behind which is building up.

Second encounter lunch time in Greggs queuing for a sandwich . Queue is massive and does not seem to be going down. Reason - parent with small child at the front and child wants to pay . Parent patiently explaining to child about contactless and how that works, and then child drops the card and everyone waits while child is encouraged by parent to find and pick up the card (under the counter ). Parent laughs ' never mind Freddie you try it again ,you can do it' and turns and smiles at the queuers as if we should all be impressed. Staff at Greggs look around awkwardly .

FFS pick up the child and the bike and remove them from the cycle path so others can pass!!!!!

Take the card off the child and pay for the sandwich without delay and get out of the way!!!!!

Thank you

Yeah, fuck that. By all means let them do things at their own pace when not at the expense of others, but I personally couldn't care less about other peoples children's 'learning experiences' when I'm in a rush!

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