Petrol 184.9 this afternoon

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Petrol has gone up from 179.9 this morning where I am to 184.9 this afternoon! AIBU to think this is getting really worrying?

Also the closest member of staff to this place is 7 miles still no public transport.

Most people don't have your set of circumstances. Most people live within a bus ride of schools, work and shops.

Do they? Do you have any evidence to support that?

The average UK commute is around ~7 miles. Easily doable on a bike.

~85% of the population live in urban areas and will have access to (reasonably) decent public transport.

Plenty of people could cut down their car usage significantly if they really wanted to.

i am all for saving the environment but pushing people into poverty isn’t the way to do it!

even if everybody who owns a car for domestic use was able to stop using it or change to an EV (which are far from environmentally perfect anyway) then it doesn’t tackle to issue of the costs of fuel on haulage and the rest of the transportation industry.

What is that 7miles is straight down the A47 or M25?

But then you will, as I have, have to cut back on something else in order to afford the fuel.

Better to go without 'treats' and have high fuel prices because the planet smiles with each price rise.

I know some will come along and say they have cut back on everything already but if that is really true-no wine, no haircut, no lipstick, no magazine, no sweets, no mobile phone, no subscription services- then that is hard but take comfort from the fact that we need zero emissions.

We were all for zero emissions on this board but only it seems if it doesn't cause us hardship.

It is hard. The planet is more important than us.

@coffeecupsandfairylights

You ask if I have evidence for saying most people live within a bus ride of amenities. I should have also added within a train ride.

This asking for evidence is usually used to shut someone down, as obviously I'm not a census taker and have no evidence as such.

However, I use the evidence of my eyes and brain and that is that most of us live in suburbs, new build estates or towns and if you really think that most of the population is living in villages then you must be watching too much Midsommer Murders.

City petrol station 194 for diesel and for the person saying use a supermarket well yes Tesco did have it 4p a litre cheaper ....except their pumps were closed as they didn't have any. That is also becoming a regular occurrence but nothing is said.

It will get worse with the ban on Russian oil news.sky.com/story/petrol-price-hits-new-record-after-eu-ban-on-russian-oil-12624610

I live in rural Yorkshire and there is an Arrival bus strike going on indefinitely. There is no other public transport, without a car you would be stranded in the village. It’s the same for miles around.

Arriva not arrival!

I filled up earlier, normally well under £50, today £61.50! At Morrisons and I was stunned, thinking the pump must be broken!
I travel between two sites in work and do not get mileage for this, they may only be just over a mile apart but it mounts up over a month.

I’ve been noting the price here, semi rural, this morning it was £189.9. Town we go to has more petrol stations and it Sainsbury’s it’s still £170.

We get petrol there.

What would you suggest need doing?

This is simply greed by the companies involved. Itis the same with food. It's the same with what is happening environmentally in the world. Big businesses who want more and more profit and who could not give a toss about ordinary people or the impact on the environment of their industry.
Shell
ICI
Sainsbury's
British Gas
Royal Mail
Just to name a handful- making hugely increased profits and putting prices up constantly.
Meanwhile, we have a government that is giving them every tax break it can to help them make even more money.

I appreciate that @Catspyjamas01 but if you live in a village, you need a car.

So, you can either continue to run a car, taking on the rising cost or you can move out. If one can't afford to run a car but chooses to live rurally, then the consequences are your own.

It's a choice isn't it? Live rurally and pay highly for a car or choose to live somewhere where you won't have to rely on a car as much...if at all.

It is no-one else's fault that people who can't afford to run a car choose to live somewhere where they need one. It is their choice. The planet shouldn't have to pay for it.

@CapMarvel so a 16 mile round trip for me but how will I carry all the stuff I need to get to work. Also I need to get home in a tight timeline to then collect children. It just isn't that simple. I don't have an hour to travel to work in the morning and then back again 🤷🏼‍♀️

So you don't have any evidence then 😉

Me too! I remember the lorries blocking roads.protesting it going over 99p a litre. The good old days!

Does this conspiracy expand to the rest of the globe then too? Pretty amazing cabal that are organising this, and all at the same time. Gee, if only there was some geopolitical series of events that could account for this.

It's not unusual where I live though. In the south east. My village and all surrounding villages are in the same situation. Even the nearest town only has a small Sainsbury's (v expensive) and is 10 miles to the nearest big supermarket with extortionate bus prices (and the bus takes 50 mins whereas driving would take 15-20). I cover a massive rural area for work, huge, with hundreds of thousands of people all in a similar situation

And our nearest train station is a 20 minute drive away.

Oh no, you're right @Catspyjamas01

Of course hardly anyone lives in towns, new build estates or suburbs. Where did I get that idea from when it's obvious we all live in villages!
Yes, there's that tumbleweed weaving through all the suburbs...they've all buggered off to villages!

By the way, yelling for "evidence" in some sort of pseudo academic way is a lazy response. My point about where most of the population live is so obvious it doesn't need evidence.

Still, I suppose if someone was posting about a manx cat and another replied that most cats had tails, along would come someone yelling 'I have a manx cat. It has no tail. Where is your evidence for saying most cats have tails?'

A bit silly isn't it.

I asked for a pay rise today as I can't justify those prices on fuel. However, in the meantime whilst job evaluation happens my boss has let me WFH for the next 3 months!

As a point of comparison, I just paid $4.79 per US gallon for standard gasoline in New York. The pound is currently worth $1.25, so that's 3.83 pounds. One US gallon is 3.78 liters, so the price here is just about one pound per liter. That's quite a difference. Some I'm sure is down to lower fuel taxes here.

It's over $8 in lots of California. Ohio has it over $5, as are dozens of other states.