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Boris no confidence vote…he’s going to win isn’t he?

537 replies

BadAtMaths2 · 06/06/2022 08:31

Spineless MPs….then he’ll limp along doing even more attention seeking stunts.

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tobee · 06/06/2022 23:44

Syntax

tobee · 06/06/2022 23:44

Double post

Hawkins001 · 06/06/2022 23:51

tobee · 06/06/2022 23:44

Syntax

Yes my English writing needs improvements, but that should not distract from my point, apologies if it does.

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/06/2022 23:52

Brilliant result. I am fucking delighted.😆🥳😆🥳😆

Schulte · 07/06/2022 07:57

grapewines · 06/06/2022 21:50

Looking on from outside the UK it is fucking unbelievable what this man gets away with. Honestly.

Yes. Agreed. Unfortunately I am outside and inside at the same time and it’s uncomfortable!

SleeplessInEngland · 07/06/2022 08:02

We’ll be back here in a few weeks/months because the problem hasn’t gone away: he has no solutions to the problems the country faces, and polling won’t get any better. He’s chosen a slow death over a quick one. His single policy is now “last as long as possible”.

Mischance · 07/06/2022 08:16

It is quite funny really - a result that means that over 40% of his MPs want him out and he describes it as a "convincing victory" - and so the lies go on.

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/06/2022 08:36

Mischance · 07/06/2022 08:16

It is quite funny really - a result that means that over 40% of his MPs want him out and he describes it as a "convincing victory" - and so the lies go on.

It's funny when someone like Jacob Rees Mogg said yesterday that Boris only needed to win by one vote, that's the end of it etc etc.
And yet when May won her no confidence vote more decisively (but still not great) JRM said it was a "terrible" result and she should be resigning urgently.

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 08:44

SleeplessInEngland · 07/06/2022 08:02

We’ll be back here in a few weeks/months because the problem hasn’t gone away: he has no solutions to the problems the country faces, and polling won’t get any better. He’s chosen a slow death over a quick one. His single policy is now “last as long as possible”.

Ah, no I have listened to Dominic Raab on the radio and I know what the solution is.
Having raised a dozen taxes the Tories because they are a tax cutting party are going to slightly reduce NI thresholds and then everything will be wonderful because they are a tax cutting party.

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 08:45

SickAndTiredAgain · 07/06/2022 08:36

It's funny when someone like Jacob Rees Mogg said yesterday that Boris only needed to win by one vote, that's the end of it etc etc.
And yet when May won her no confidence vote more decisively (but still not great) JRM said it was a "terrible" result and she should be resigning urgently.

If we all had JRM phenomenal intelligence and common sense, we would be able to tie ourselves up in that knot as well and understand that of course he is correct.

SleeplessInEngland · 07/06/2022 08:46

Raab and others saying it's normal for sitting governments to lose byelections. Expectations management has already started.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 07/06/2022 08:48

SleeplessInEngland · 07/06/2022 08:46

Raab and others saying it's normal for sitting governments to lose byelections. Expectations management has already started.

Well yes, it is. Not with the sort of swing that's currently being predicted, mind. Last time we saw that as a commonplace was in the 92-97 long drawn out death of a Tory administration, and we all know how that one ended. Raab might want to be a bit more careful with his comparisons.

peridito · 07/06/2022 08:59

For those speculating about BJ's appearance during his TV interview ,I think he's got hay fever .Probably needs an evening dose of AH as well as a morning one .

I thoroughly dislike the man but really doubt he'd appear on prime time TV coked up .

Blossomtoes · 07/06/2022 09:07

You have more faith than me @peridito. I think he was off his face.

I’m quite looking forward to seeing what Raab et al come up with after the by elections. My anger is beginning to turn to amusement as they twist and turn to maintain black’s white.

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 09:30

Yup perfectly normal for a constituency that has in no ones lifetime elected anything other than a Tory MP and at the last election the Tory returning with 60%+ of the vote to suddenly vote a different way.

PigletJohn · 07/06/2022 09:40
Swayingpalmtrees · 07/06/2022 09:57

It is obvious what this was all about. Many MPs voted against the government not because of partygate or Sue Gray's report, but either because they want a remain leader installed and this was their best chance (failed) The Brexiteer MPs voted against the government to remind Johnson and the cabinet that they expect conservative policies and tax cutting to be front and centre going forward.

People like Baker etc were sending a serious, but nonetheless quite harmful warning shot that Boris now needs to get back to the grass roots of the party. Stop splurging endlessly, get serious and return to a disciplined fiscal position and start delivering and fast.
Patience is wearing thin, but Boris now has some space now to deliver some conservative policies and there may well now be a tepid ceasefire. There can't be another vote for another 12 months, and the ethics report in the autumn will be kicked into the long grass as it is entirely dependent on Johnson's decision for action or not.

Johnson has survived, not by a huge amount though it has to be said, but he can bounce back if he has the strength to deliver clear objectives, restart his drive and take the country forward. No one knows if he can deliver or not, does he have the stamina to do what is now necessary? Who knows. Looking at his track record, having read his life story I wouldn't put it past him. He has some ability to bounce back from even the grimmest of backdrops. We are facing a new cold war and the 4th industrial revolution there is no time for petty party squabbles any longer, and the country wants and expects to see some focus, leadership and solutions now.

Swayingpalmtrees · 07/06/2022 09:58

for some reason there are too many nows in my last post!

AppleandRhubarbTart · 07/06/2022 10:00

The number of 'nows' wasn't the main issue with that analysis.

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 10:05

Swayingpalmtrees · 07/06/2022 09:57

It is obvious what this was all about. Many MPs voted against the government not because of partygate or Sue Gray's report, but either because they want a remain leader installed and this was their best chance (failed) The Brexiteer MPs voted against the government to remind Johnson and the cabinet that they expect conservative policies and tax cutting to be front and centre going forward.

People like Baker etc were sending a serious, but nonetheless quite harmful warning shot that Boris now needs to get back to the grass roots of the party. Stop splurging endlessly, get serious and return to a disciplined fiscal position and start delivering and fast.
Patience is wearing thin, but Boris now has some space now to deliver some conservative policies and there may well now be a tepid ceasefire. There can't be another vote for another 12 months, and the ethics report in the autumn will be kicked into the long grass as it is entirely dependent on Johnson's decision for action or not.

Johnson has survived, not by a huge amount though it has to be said, but he can bounce back if he has the strength to deliver clear objectives, restart his drive and take the country forward. No one knows if he can deliver or not, does he have the stamina to do what is now necessary? Who knows. Looking at his track record, having read his life story I wouldn't put it past him. He has some ability to bounce back from even the grimmest of backdrops. We are facing a new cold war and the 4th industrial revolution there is no time for petty party squabbles any longer, and the country wants and expects to see some focus, leadership and solutions now.

Can you tell us one or two things that Boris has ever managed to deliver in his lifetime, other than babies of course, of which there are more than one or two?

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 10:08

AppleandRhubarbTart · 07/06/2022 10:00

The number of 'nows' wasn't the main issue with that analysis.

Now to be fair now, the first sentence was accurate.

It is obvious that this is about the public not wanting a lying law breaker as PM.

AppleandRhubarbTart · 07/06/2022 10:09

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 10:08

Now to be fair now, the first sentence was accurate.

It is obvious that this is about the public not wanting a lying law breaker as PM.

No, it's a Remainer plot. I actually organised it myself, it's a fair cop.

pointythings · 07/06/2022 10:11

@Swayingpalmtrees so much for you 'not being a Boris fan' - you're a total fangirl.

Other than that your analysis is hilarious.

jgw1 · 07/06/2022 10:12

AppleandRhubarbTart · 07/06/2022 10:09

No, it's a Remainer plot. I actually organised it myself, it's a fair cop.

Isn't Boris a Remainer who seeks the break up of the UK?

Cornettoninja · 07/06/2022 10:13

He has some ability to bounce back from even the grimmest of backdrops

BJ personally has the ability to do that but it’s by ‘bouncing’ out of the mess he created into a new opportunity.

Shame that this time the mess will be the UK.

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